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mike470  5/08/08 6:29:03 PM

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Currently on vacation---be back in a week..I know you will all miss me ;)

 I am a little curious about web design.  I am just interested on reading up on it, and attempting to learn a simple version of it. 

If anyone knows any good sites to do this...  Also, I don't have microsoft frontpage, does this mean I can't make a website?  If there are other places to find templates, could someone please direct them to me?

Thanks

Edit- free is a bonus, too

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jinbob  5/08/08 8:49:50 PM

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I used to use freewebs.com to mess around with html, and see what i could make. Dont remember any good sites for help though.

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paulscott  5/09/08 11:36:20 AM

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why do humans build, because it isn''t there

They're slowly phasing out HTML for CSS.  you can get away with pretty comfortably useing inline(IE where you're writing) comments which will make your life very similar to using word.

pretty much something like

<p style="color:RGB(0,0,255); text-indent: 3em;> Your really long paragraph here</p>  (not on compy that has firefox right now but they should be fine)

will give you blue text that's indented by 3 letter 'm' (like a paragraph) of the font you're using. 

link of most CSS tags

link of HTML tags to use them with

link of a site based on teaching CSS, but they use embeded(IE on the page you're using but defining how the HTML tages will display at the top of it).  but with the first link which only gives you all the styles and this one that gives examples of using them you're pretty well covered.

lets see you can also view the page source of how any website is written.  in internet explorer it's under view>source.

 Lots and Lots of help out there, this isn't intended to be a tutorial by any means but rather to give you resources that you'd otherwise end up wasting a bunch of time trying to find.

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paulscott  5/09/08 11:44:18 AM

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why do humans build, because it isn''t there

Oh and DO NOT use anything like front page and macromedia until you can make a decent web page using plain text editors.   the secret is taking a perfectly normal text file and changing it's type(the .txt part) to .htm.

your computer will reconize it as a web page from there on out and if you want to edit it use right click and open with.

I sentence(recomend) you to the torture(learning experiance) of using textpad(great text editor, no install but does some slightly invasive stuff like adding itself to your right click menu) for the next 500 years(until you can make a decent enough web page with it, also using tables) of suffering(yes it's annoying but you'll thank yourself that you did so when you get to editors like frontpage or macromedia since they can't do everything).

My definition of an expert in any field is a person who knows enough about what's really going on to be scared.
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pyrofreak  5/09/08 12:16:46 PM

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Originally posted by paulscott

Oh and DO NOT use anything like front page and macromedia until you can make a decent web page using plain text editors.   the secret is taking a perfectly normal text file and changing it's type(the .txt part) to .htm.

your computer will reconize it as a web page from there on out and if you want to edit it use right click and open with.

I sentence(recomend) you to the torture(learning experiance) of using textpad(great text editor, no install but does some slightly invasive stuff like adding itself to your right click menu) for the next 500 years(until you can make a decent enough web page with it, also using tables) of suffering(yes it's annoying but you'll thank yourself that you did so when you get to editors like frontpage or macromedia since they can't do everything).

Real geeks (as real as they can be without using linux anyway) do all their coding in notepad.

 
paulscott  5/09/08 12:39:00 PM

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why do humans build, because it isn''t there

speed>1337ness...  but yes you can do lots of things with the notepad under accesories.

bleh the nightmares of using notepad as my JAVA IDE, which I have done for a bit.  no faster way to learn a language than to get yelled at by the command prompt for every error with no way to quickly find them.

My definition of an expert in any field is a person who knows enough about what's really going on to be scared.
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pirateer  5/09/08 2:33:54 PM

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I like Pirate games.

http://www.w3schools.com/ <- All web language tutorials found there.

 

I personally use KompoZer for my web design and publishing. It can be found here.

 

The best free hosting site, in my opinion, is 987mb.com, it's a very easy and newbie-friendly FTP.

 
sanicek  5/09/08 3:19:09 PM

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Originally posted by pyrofreak

Real geeks (as real as they can be without using linux anyway) do all their coding in notepad.

 
Real geeks code by redirecting output to a file.

Not that HTML is coding though.

 
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