True they are suggesting fixing the buffbot problem, but they still have major issues with overpowered stealth and crowd control.  Without major changes to those problems the game will still be a troubled step child that few find desirable.

Their solotions are always half done, they might as well not bother to make the effort.

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Originally posted by Ykalon
Hmm this their version of SOE's progression server for Everquest?

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That's the first thing that popped into my mind, then secondly that AoC is about to come out and should things not go so well Funcom can still project good numbers overall if they massage the subscriber numbers with those that are resubscribing to this new server. Was that a run on? Just throwing something out there.

One of the things a few people have said is that a new server would be nice to start over on. 

If you hope to get away because you can start and progress on equal footing to everyone else, don't kid yourself.

The farmers will get over there before most of you do, getting control of the economy to make all new $$$ selling gold and items to the powergamers that are coming over.  Powerleveling the high level camps out in the epic zones & mobs in RvR will be up and running by day 2, and within a week it will be business as usual, only with all the old exploits added in for seasoning.

Line of sight, pet pathing, and a host of other problems still plague the game, but are consistently being overlooked and ignored for quick band aids like dumbing down TOA, clustering and class homogenization.

No resubs here.

Originally posted by BuzWeaver

 

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Originally posted by Ykalon
Hmm this their version of SOE's progression server for Everquest?

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That's the first thing that popped into my mind, then secondly that AoC is about to come out and should things not go so well Funcom can still project good numbers overall if they massage the subscriber numbers with those that are resubscribing to this new server. Was that a run on? Just throwing something out there.

How is Age of Conan going to massage their subscriber numbers with someone else's (DAoC's) subs?

DAoC and AoC have nothing to do with each other except they are both MMO's.

Maybe you meant that WAR is about to come out etc etc but WAR's not due out for quite  awhile yet.

Guys we can never go back. People can dream about the god old times but they can never ever return. It was wonderful back then but the world has moved on and trying to recreate good old times never works.

Yes Mythic broke a lot of the charm of the game when they made new frontier. And I literaly cried the last day of the OF where I just walked around looking at the places we have had so much fun knowing that the next day it would be gone (I had been one of the NF testers on pendragon).

But it has been 5 years. Much water has run into sea and the people who played back then are not the people they are today and the community cannot ever be the same again.

I would sign back up to play on this server the second or week it was to go live. I loved plaing Dark Age of Camelot. It was the only MMORPG I stayed long enough with to reach the end game and had full the entire time. The ability points system is annoying since you have to map out your character from the start at times but it was fun regardless. I'd come back for this new type of server for sure. Just the thought it has me installing the game (when I get home from work) just in case it ever does go live.

Originally posted by brostyn

 

Originally posted by KaltesHerz

I went and read what this was but I never played DAoC past beta so,,,

 

Exactly what does this do, I understand that it removes all the expansions, but were the expansions really that bad?

 

Hell removing buffbots in any game is a great idea. I hate "Buff online" myself. If i can't play the game "normal" then I don't feel it needs to be played.

 

Down and dirty details please if you don't mind?

Yes, the expansions were that bad. It changed a RvR game into a PvE nightmare. Every expansion seemed to introduce a new overpowered class, and new PvE content you were forced to do to remain competitive. Basically, too much PvE content added and little to no RvR content added.

 

 

Battles went from lasting minutes to seconds. Casters became gods, melees had no increase in power. I personally got sick of playing a pve game that used to be a rvr one.

Shrouded Isles wasn't a bad expansion. The Atlantis expansion was bad and what did damage to the game though in both RvR and PvE but more RvR. Hard to say if ones after that did damage I think but won't miss them to much.  Catacombs was kinda needed after so many left I think since it made grouping harder and it made getting pick up groups together easier and allow for locations where people could gather. Without that I wouldn't have been able to get to the end game. Keep that but Darkness Rising can the Mino one can go to be honest. Not really attached to them.

I voted Yes, because I suspect that once WAR comes out later this year we'll find its considerably different from the game we knew and loved, and we'll not be satisfied with that.