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ArcAngel3  4/27/08 11:50:16 PM

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"I am altering the deal, pray I don''t alter it any further." (summary of SWG)

We reserve the right to sell you items in an expansion and then disable them (RotW).

We reserve the right to take features offline at any time, say that they will be restored when improved, and then never restore them (force ranking system).

We reserve the right to delete months or years worth of quest progress (jedi village and trials).

We reserve the right to delete any or all professions that you have spent weeks or months mastering (pick one of the 20 + professions deleted).

We reserve the right to market things in an expansion that we know we are going to render useless right after we receive your money for them (ToOW followed by NGE).

If we give refunds for the above expansion, we reserve the right to keep any money you paid for subscription time, even though you couldn't actually play the expansion without purchasing the time.

We reserve the right to tell you things about our plans for the game that we know are not true, and take your money under false pretenses (ToOW).

We reserve the right to remove all user access to virtual pets for a 2 year period (NGE).

If you complain about being mistreated, we reserve the right to silence you and remove you from our forums.

We reserve the right to make your profession meaningless anytime we choose (NGE).

We reserve the right to make any or all goods crafted (or purchased) by you useless at anytime (combat upgrade and NGE).

We reserve the right to make your equipment unuseable by you at any time (armour certification).

We reserve the right to charge you a premium fee, in advance, for gameplay that will be broken by our patches (pick one, but the NGE was the best example).

We reserve the right to reward you with ingame items for your loyalty, and then take them away (ADKs).

We reserve the right to promise specific bug fixes, and then not follow through (collision detection).

We reserve the right to tell you we are fast tracking server mergers, and then not follow through (self-explanatory).

If you agree to these terms, click "accept." 

What the EULA actually says is that they reserve the right to update and enhance the game.  I don't think update or enhance means what they think it means.

 

 

 

 
Burntvet  4/28/08 12:17:39 AM

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"Vaseline not included."

Nice.

 
Sam123jo0123  4/28/08 12:39:24 AM

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Account was stolen!

'All rights reserved'

Account has been stolen, why would someone want to steal my account?

SWGcasualty  4/28/08 12:43:05 AM

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sounds about right.

 

 
Reklaw  4/28/08 1:43:07 AM

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Freedom is the will to be responsible to ourselves.

Actualy this isn't much different then the original EULA and i for one would not want to see a EULA change into something like this, tho i can apriciatte the humor of it, it's far from how i would like to see future EULA's.

So sorry this doesn't read as a more honost EULA for SWG but pure a sarcastic way of showing their current EULA towards SWG as it stands now. Hope you might make a attemped into a more serious one Arc.

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HBlite  4/28/08 1:50:35 AM

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forever we will remember, forever forgotten it will be not.

I appreciate the humor in it and in a way it's not far from the truth of what it really is/did. Defiantly an eye opener to any EULA and how far is too far.

SOE setting the standards of suck, we break it so you don't have to.

Sounds like a better tagline/company model/slogan.

khartman2005  4/28/08 1:59:10 AM

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I can''t wait till WAR is out so all the whiners can whine about WAR not being finished.

I was a closed beta tester for SWG and then a full time player for the first two years until the fiasco known as the CU and then the bigger fiasco known as the NGE. I immediately canceled both my accounts once the NGE hit.

OP that was hilarious and was spot on to what could be described as the day 200,000 vets screamed out in horror and were suddenly silenced (well till we started posting on forums around the internet).

 
jokuvaan  4/28/08 2:26:44 AM

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Yes, and i was pissed too when it happened, and yeah i woudnt mind seeing pre NGE crap swg back,

but i also accept reality that its NEVER going to happen, so crying about it years after it happened is totally pointless and waste of time.


And this stupidity about blaming SOE alone has gone too long, if you do some research you will find out LucasArts was atleast 50% as guilty about it than SOE was.


And if you get so freaked over due game, even if good game that was actually different from usual crap until they tried to turn it to new wow, you seriously need to think your priorities again.

 
HBlite  4/28/08 2:38:46 AM

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forever we will remember, forever forgotten it will be not.


Originally posted by jokuvaan
<blockquote><i>Originally posted by HashBrick</i>
<br><b><p><blockquote><hr><i>Originally posted by jokuvaan</i><br><b>Another SWG vet crying over stuff that happened ages ago instead of moving on? Bwaaaah...</b><hr></blockquote></p><p>Hey man if you lost a family member I wouldn't be telling you to get over it.</p><p>To many of us SWG was our friend, that special place where we could get away from the real world and play in a galaxy so deep and filled with life that it was often hard to snap back in to reality. SWG was that warm friend that greeted you and consoled you when you came home from a rough day at work/school/college. To many of us our friend died, it was killed by the beast known as SOE and will never forget that day and one day we will avenge our friend!!! *epic music*</p><p>Seriously though a part of me died when the true vision of SWG did. </p></b></blockquote>
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Yes, and i was pissed too when it happened, and yeah i woudnt mind seeing pre NGE crap swg back, but i also accept reality that its NEVER going to happen, so crying about it years after it happened is totally pointless and waste of time.

And this stupidity about blaming SOE alone has gone too long, if you do some research you will find out LucasArts was atleast 50% as guilty about it than SOE was.

And if you get so freaked over due game, even if good game that was actually different from usual crap until they tried to turn it to new wow, you seriously need to think your priorities again.


It's just a place for us to vent, we don't hurt anyone else or bite when they enter. Just let us be. Priorities or not, no life or not, it's not going to change my views on how it should have/how it didn't work out.

I have a life if that is what you are trying to hint at and I do things outside and I have tried other MMOs but this is a haven where I can reflect on my memories and vent my hatred.

It's like wolves howling in the moon light, you ignore it...or I guess shoot em if you can without getting mauled by the other ones heh.

Anyway everyones priorities is different and what you think isn't important may be. Please try to be more open-minded on the tragedy that has bestowed us. Take care.

jokuvaan  4/28/08 2:39:52 AM

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Originally posted by khartman2005

 

Originally posted by jokuvaan

<blockquote><i>Originally posted by HashBrick</i>
<br><b><p><blockquote><hr><i>Originally posted by jokuvaan</i><br><b>Another SWG vet crying over stuff that happened ages ago instead of moving on? Bwaaaah...</b><hr></blockquote></p><p>Hey man if you lost a family member I wouldn't be telling you to get over it.</p><p>To many of us SWG was our friend, that special place where we could get away from the real world and play in a galaxy so deep and filled with life that it was often hard to snap back in to reality. SWG was that warm friend that greeted you and consoled you when you came home from a rough day at work/school/college. To many of us our friend died, it was killed by the beast known as SOE and will never forget that day and one day we will avenge our friend!!! *epic music*</p><p>Seriously though a part of me died when the true vision of SWG did. </p></b></blockquote>
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Yes, and i was pissed too when it happened, and yeah i woudnt mind seeing pre NGE crap swg back, but i also accept reality that its NEVER going to happen, so crying about it years after it happened is totally pointless and waste of time.

And this stupidity about blaming SOE alone has gone too long, if you do some research you will find out LucasArts was atleast 50% as guilty about it than SOE was.

And if you get so freaked over due game, even if good game that was actually different from usual crap until they tried to turn it to new wow, you seriously need to think your priorities again.

Wow, can't hit the quote button huh.

 

Another person telling someone else their priorities. What gives you that right?

By the way, we already know that LucasArts was half responsible, we are not stupid.

 

Wow, ever heard theres other browsers than internet explorer and not all crap is compatible with them? Hate to use freaking IE just for this.

Yes, you can continue crying about NGE for next 1000 years if you want to, even start a cult if you want to.. bwaaah! NGE, Soe puhleeeeze bring it baaaccckkk! doesnt matter computers they used at the day dont even exist anymore in year 3000!

But I'd rather do something else than waste my time crying about something that will never happen. Things do get old you know? Even if the miracle would happen and they would actually manage to bring pre-nge stuff back then what? You get buggy version of SWG thats been massively outdated compared to anything released nowdays, and the fact is, like it or not, those new players who joined AFTER NGE would be equally pissed than we were the day , which would be another BAD business move from SOE. Unless they would run two versions of SWG, splitting its resources to two different developement teams.

So unlikely thats going to happen. If you want something like old SWG then pray  that some of new developers decide to pick the concept up and do something  similiar but with today's standards.