Age of Conan

Directly from the horses mouth;

"You gain PvP experience and rewards through many types of PvP combat, not just mini-games. It's also important to note that this system is designed to be a nice addition to what's already there, not something that will gimp you in PvP if you're not putting your focus on it.

In no way do we want this to be a grind, especially not a mini-games grind!"

By the sounds of it IGN mis-understood or just misquoted the guy. It sounds like it's not the guild that has members with the highest minigame score, but the highest overall score. And that tells me, it's measured by which guild has one or more members with the highest PVP LEVEL!

That's a major difference. As you gain PvP lvls via ANY kind of PvP. On PvP servers because everything is open, you won't have to enter a single PvP Minigame to get some PvP lvls. You just need to be good and have some skill. That is, if I'm right. And it sounds like I am.

Thats good news and welcome relief to a lot of us who had been stressing that pvp mini games would be forced as a way of determining siege order.

Originally posted by Fion

Sounds like it's not the guild that has members with the highest minigame score, but the highest overall score. And that tells me, it's measured by which guild has one or more members with the highest PVP LEVEL!

 

I assumed this is what was meant when he originally made that statement. Obviously it was some kind of miscommunication on someones part. Honestly it makes a lot of sense, whichever guild puts the most into PVP will have the first opportunity to attack a Battlekeep. Really it just keeps thing fair.

Totally knew it.

IGN press guys always have a penchant to misquote or fire off misquotes without clarification when its been present all along.

So all forms of PvP by all Members of your guild have an effect in the rankings by which the leaders have first pick in the que to take down your battle keep. Anything PvP, PvP levels, drunken brawling etc.

Not meant as a grind so everything who was running around waving their arms in the air shouting "Shit!" "shit!" can calm down - the mini game aspect is just an addition and not a grind. Don't like mini games there are other ways to get ahead in the pecking order. Next people will be moaning about the balance of it all when no one has tried it....

The problem is mainly with people that want to play on pvp servers. They don't want the focus on minigames they want to focus on open world pvp. If everyone just sits in cities queing for minigames to get pvp xp that's going to reduce the open world pvp. We know you can gain pvp xp in different ways but if grinding minigames is the easiest way to do it then thats what people will gravitate to. That's what people are concerned about. You gain honor in WoW from open world pvp too but what gets you faster honor is minigames by far. Some people will not like that setup since that's why they came here to get away from that.

Originally posted by skeptical

The problem is mainly with people that want to play on pvp servers. They don't want the focus on minigames they want to focus on open world pvp. If everyone just sits in cities queing for minigames to get pvp xp that's going to reduce the open world pvp. We know you can gain pvp xp in different ways but if grinding minigames is the easiest way to do it then thats what people will gravitate to. That's what people are concerned about. You gain honor in WoW from open world pvp too but what gets you faster honor is minigames by far. Some people will not like that setup since that's why they came here to get away from that.

You have to look at it this way... In WoW I gain 99% of my honor by winning the batleground matches, with that extra 1% coming from enemy kills. In AoC I get 0% of my PVP exp from winning PVP mini games and 100% from enemy kills. Mini games are not going to be the easiest way to get PVP exp, it just another way of killing your enemies to get it.

This just goes to show you, you really need to wait and see things for yourself, This whole thing got my panties in a bunch and with what has been said by Lord O, its starting to look up.

I still wish you could attack a Keep at any time of the day, but its an understandable reason why you cant, and it does make everything alot more organized.

Glad some things are clearing up.

-Jive

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Totally knew it.

IGN press guys always have a penchant to misquote or fire off misquotes without clarification when its been present all along.

So all forms of PvP by all Members of your guild have an effect in the rankings by which the leaders have first pick in the que to take down your battle keep. Anything PvP, PvP levels, drunken brawling etc.

Not meant as a grind so everything who was running around waving their arms in the air shouting "Shit!" "shit!" can calm down - the mini game aspect is just an addition and not a grind. Don't like mini games there are other ways to get ahead in the pecking order. Next people will be moaning about the balance of it all when no one has tried it....

You do relaise after people start getting bored of being ganked in the game world they will just sit in towns and que for BG saving them the hassle of being killed, whether it be the PVE servers or the PVP servers.  Simple truth is the BG has helped make the decision for people already.  If you get bored or world pvp is frustrating for you, there is always the BG to help solve your problem.  People will always take the easiest option so they can progress and beat other people.  Big mistake by funcom.

Originally posted by skeptical

The problem is mainly with people that want to play on pvp servers. They don't want the focus on minigames they want to focus on open world pvp. If everyone just sits in cities queing for minigames to get pvp xp that's going to reduce the open world pvp. We know you can gain pvp xp in different ways but if grinding minigames is the easiest way to do it then thats what people will gravitate to. That's what people are concerned about. You gain honor in WoW from open world pvp too but what gets you faster honor is minigames by far. Some people will not like that setup since that's why they came here to get away from that.

Whose to say that PvP mini games will be the best source of exp for PvP? They will offer bare minimum at best is my guess. The real experience will come from open world pvp on PvP servers. Honor is also not PvP levels in AoC, similar in some regards but different in mechanics.

Sure its something to be concerned about but to think it will end up exactly like WoW it wont be.

Good thing is, is that its based over the whole guild and not the individual. Team effort. You want to have a shot a taking a battle keep then you prove it - in a system that is stated NOT to be a grind of MINI GAMES.

Originally posted by Demz2

 

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Totally knew it.

IGN press guys always have a penchant to misquote or fire off misquotes without clarification when its been present all along.

So all forms of PvP by all Members of your guild have an effect in the rankings by which the leaders have first pick in the que to take down your battle keep. Anything PvP, PvP levels, drunken brawling etc.

Not meant as a grind so everything who was running around waving their arms in the air shouting "Shit!" "shit!" can calm down - the mini game aspect is just an addition and not a grind. Don't like mini games there are other ways to get ahead in the pecking order. Next people will be moaning about the balance of it all when no one has tried it....

 

You do relaise after people start getting bored of being ganked in the game world they will just sit in towns and que for BG saving them the hassle of being killed, whether it be the PVE servers or the PVP servers.  Simple truth is the BG has helped make the decision for people already.  If you get bored or world pvp is frustrating for you, there is always the BG to help solve your problem.  People will always take the easiest option so they can progress and beat other people.  Big mistake by funcom.

How would you do it?? 8/9 battle keeps in the BK's competition rife - whats the fair way that you would bring to the table??? How would you do it on the PvE servers?

Your assuming that the mini games offer the best soloution - another WoW way of thinking..

What if you got 1% exp per kill in PvP mini games and 15% exp in the Open World per kill? hmmm so we know the full details yet... No.