General Discussion

The greatest question probably asked at our time. A singularity? Similar to the Big Bang. Questions I always ask myself is why the universe have the same equal temperature overall. Where did the dark matter come from. What of probabilities.

Once you're ready to ask the question, "does God exist?" here are a few observations to consider as you begin your search for an objective answer:

• Discoveries in astronomy have shown beyond a reasonable doubt that the universe did, in fact, have a beginning. There was a single moment of creation.
• Advances in molecular biology have revealed vast amounts of information encoded in each and every living cell, and molecular biologists have discovered thousands upon thousands of exquisitely designed machines at the molecular level. Information requires intelligence and design requires a designer.
• Biochemists and mathematicians have calculated the odds against life arising from non-life naturally via unintelligent processes. The odds are astronomical. In fact, scientists aren't even sure if life could have evolved naturally via unintelligent processes. If life did not arise by chance, how did it arise?
• The universe is ordered by natural laws. Where did these laws come from and what purpose do they serve?
• Philosophers agree that a transcendent Law Giver is the only plausible explanation for an objective moral standard. So, ask yourself if you believe in right and wrong and then ask yourself why. Who gave you your conscience? Why does it exist?
• People of every race, creed, color, and culture, both men and women, young and old, wise and foolish, from the educated to the ignorant, claim to have personally experienced something of the supernatural. So what are we supposed to do with these prodigious accounts of divine healing, prophetic revelation, answered prayer, and other miraculous phenomena? Ignorance and imagination may have played a part to be sure, but is there something more?

 Now the issue at hand considering science to find this answer. "It is not that the methods and institutions of science  that somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counterintuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute.

If, on the other hand, I were neutral, and didn't already have an "a priori adherence" to a particular worldview (be it naturalistic or otherwise), the question "does God really exist?" wouldn't be pointless at all. Rather, it would be the first step in an objective and meaningful search for ultimate truth. Our willingness to ask the question with an open mind is fundamental to our ability to discover the truth behind the answer. So first of all, before you even ask the question, decide whether or not you're really willing to accept the answer

 www.allaboutphilosophy.org/does-god-exist-c.htm

Originally posted by xpowderx

The greatest question probably asked at our time. A singularity? Similar to the Big Bang. Questions I always ask myself is why the universe have the same equal temperature overall. Where did the dark matter come from. What of probabilities.

 

Once you're ready to ask the question, "does God exist?" here are a few observations to consider as you begin your search for an objective answer:

• Discoveries in astronomy have shown beyond a reasonable doubt that the universe did, in fact, have a beginning. There was a single moment of creation.
• Advances in molecular biology have revealed vast amounts of information encoded in each and every living cell, and molecular biologists have discovered thousands upon thousands of exquisitely designed machines at the molecular level. Information requires intelligence and design requires a designer.
• Biochemists and mathematicians have calculated the odds against life arising from non-life naturally via unintelligent processes. The odds are astronomical. In fact, scientists aren't even sure if life could have evolved naturally via unintelligent processes. If life did not arise by chance, how did it arise?
• The universe is ordered by natural laws. Where did these laws come from and what purpose do they serve?
• Philosophers agree that a transcendent Law Giver is the only plausible explanation for an objective moral standard. So, ask yourself if you believe in right and wrong and then ask yourself why. Who gave you your conscience? Why does it exist?
• People of every race, creed, color, and culture, both men and women, young and old, wise and foolish, from the educated to the ignorant, claim to have personally experienced something of the supernatural. So what are we supposed to do with these prodigious accounts of divine healing, prophetic revelation, answered prayer, and other miraculous phenomena? Ignorance and imagination may have played a part to be sure, but is there something more?

 Now the issue at hand considering science to find this answer. "It is not that the methods and institutions of science  that somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counterintuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute.

 

If, on the other hand, I were neutral, and didn't already have an "a priori adherence" to a particular worldview (be it naturalistic or otherwise), the question "does God really exist?" wouldn't be pointless at all. Rather, it would be the first step in an objective and meaningful search for ultimate truth. Our willingness to ask the question with an open mind is fundamental to our ability to discover the truth behind the answer. So first of all, before you even ask the question, decide whether or not you're really willing to accept the answer.

As for the philosophical questions you raised, God does exist... i have no doubt abou that, i have no doubt what he looks like, i see him in the mirror each morning. I create my life, i create my morals, and by the use of those laws i shape the world around me... I am my own creator.. we are our own creator and by seeking to understand these laws that i have created i give my self consiousness.

good questions you bulleted.

too bad noone can answer your thread title.

Yes. God does exist. my wife certainly thinks so. Oh God, Oh God, oh God.

I cant do any better than that. sry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGnMAASU7SY&feature=related

Behold the truth!  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTKTsJpuRSY

The 2nd is a techno mix.  Same truth.  :P

Did the God exist?  In modern times, more and more people dont believe that God exist in the this world, in despite of  in past or now,  Beliveing the God can be a belief that can give us light and hope, which make us straightly confront difficultys in our life,  In a word, i belive more that God exists in our minds.

Hail Satan

Originally posted by xpowderx

• Discoveries in astronomy have shown beyond a reasonable doubt that the universe did, in fact, have a beginning. There was a single moment of creation.
• Correction, they have shown that there was a single point of origin for the observable mass in our area. We have no way of determining whether or not this is unique in frequency, location or form. For instance, there could be billions of "big bangs" happening somewhere in the universe by the time I finish writing this, only they are so unimaginably distant it makes no difference whatsoever.
• Advances in molecular biology have revealed vast amounts of information encoded in each and every living cell, and molecular biologists have discovered thousands upon thousands of exquisitely designed machines at the molecular level. Information requires intelligence and design requires a designer.
• Or trillions upon trillions of failed models eventually leading to successful ones, either works, both in biology and elsewhere. One method is simply less focused
• Biochemists and mathematicians have calculated the odds against life arising from non-life naturally via unintelligent processes. The odds are astronomical. In fact, scientists aren't even sure if life could have evolved naturally via unintelligent processes. If life did not arise by chance, how did it arise?
• A.) There are, as always, multiple opposing theories and calculations on that topic, don't mistake a small section of scientists for a significant portion. B.) One thing that all sides generally agree on is simply that we do not have sufficient information on the topic to make any sure prediction.
• The universe is ordered by natural laws. Where did these laws come from and what purpose do they serve?
• Must there always be an origin or purpose? In any case, there is only one true natural law, the rest of it is simply side affects
• Philosophers agree that a transcendent Law Giver is the only plausible explanation for an objective moral standard. So, ask yourself if you believe in right and wrong and then ask yourself why. Who gave you your conscience? Why does it exist?
• Primarily social conditioning, but also genetic tendancies. We, like most mammals, have an interest in social bonding particularly with our young, it is a survival technique that serves us mutch better than the classic breed as much as possible then leave shtick used by most of nature. That said, I do believe in right and wrong, not because I hold any transcendant value in it, but because I place value upon the bonds between members of humanity, and our ability to use our social skills to achieve hights of reasoning far beyond our normal limits.
• People of every race, creed, color, and culture, both men and women, young and old, wise and foolish, from the educated to the ignorant, claim to have personally experienced something of the supernatural. So what are we supposed to do with these prodigious accounts of divine healing, prophetic revelation, answered prayer, and other miraculous phenomena? Ignorance and imagination may have played a part to be sure, but is there something more?
• Perhaps, and perhaps not. This is the inherant flaw with the sciences, there is no way in hell everything can be explained, there will always be something else mysterious and unchallengable.  That said, throughout history men and women have shown themselves quite willing to fool themselves and others in this respect for various reasons, from power and glory to a wee bit too much peyote. If there are any genuine cases of such contact, sorting through the fakes makes them almost impossible to identify from the beginning. This is a particularly interesting subject for me, since I'm struggling with exactly such a question myself. A simple case of Deja Vu, but if my memory sequences are correct and in order, I dreamed the exact happenings of a particular conversation months before I even met the girl, something similar occured with a recently purchased used car. Logic tells me its a product of faulty programming in the memory department, one runs into such cases all the time with both computers and psychology, but its a hard feeling to shake.

 With all of that said, I would most certainly say no. There are far too many inconsistancies with the classic and current view of god for me to consider such a being even close to a likely possibility.

That said, I will concede there is ample room for another force, even an intelligence or purpose in what we know of the universe, and that the existence of such would indeed fill a number of theoretical holes in need of closure.

Let's start with the comos, the big bang was just a theory made on observations of man, by calcuting speed and movement of galaxy's. they even created something similair to a bing bang in at cern.

Design does not need a designer or at least not a intellegent one. Take a look at the earth, erosion creates landscapes for millions of years. And with the latest technology we are able to create our own machines on molecular level.

Biochemist and mathematicians cant calculate the odds because the dont have all the facts, we still dont know where we come from so how can you calculate something without knowing its situation? For example if i say 1+X-Y=3 it doesnt mean the awnser of X and Y are 3 and 1 but they could also be 4 and 2.

The universe is not orderd by natural laws but by  physical law, scientific law, or a law of nature. These laws never came from anywhere but the minds and instruments of scientists. They descibe an event or process wich will always happen, like water will turn to ice when it's below 0* celcius.

About the consience thing, lets take a look a humans as animals. What is the main cause or goal, of an animal? To survive, and for it's species to survive. Things like morals and consience were made through time to survive.

These supernatural events arent always supernatural, anti-depressive drugs for example were thought to have a working effect on man, but all it did was to give man the feeling that it would work making the body get rid of the depression for a certain period of time (also know as the placebo effect). Also during a study they found out that people who had people pray for them they would get sicker faster than people who didnt pray or had people pray for them

I believe that God as a person wouldnt exist but God as an event creating the universe and life, does.