EVE Online

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Originally posted by BlackWatch
Aside from trying to figure out what mental issues the PK's might have, why not figure out a process to prevent it from happening again.  If the game is working as intended, then perhaps the player simply needs a different game?

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That's exactly what i don't get. People complain about other people shooting them, but they do not do anything to protect themselves.
Instead, they hit the forums.

I know how to protect myself from gankers. I know how to use all available means to gather intel. I know how to fit my ship so i don't get cought when i don't want to. I know how to deal with smacktalkers, and what to do when a player insults me (f12 -> petition).

If somone wants to be a pirate, then that's fine with me. Eve is advertised with the promise of harsh gameplay and pirates everywhere. It takes a bit of planning to avoid them, and that's what makes eve beautiful. It's a space survival game after all.

Sorry to say that, but comparing pirates in Eve with psychopaths is stupid. Wonder when godwins law will hit this thread..considering the amount of anger directed at people on the yarr-side of eve, it's only a matter of time.

CCP has strict rules against griefplay, and insulting others is against the rules, too. If you don't know how to deal with them, or fail at avoiding getting ganked, killed, humihilated and your corpse sent back to you in a contract, then it's your own fault.

Does godwins law apply when you use godwins law as a reference to it happening and thus obliquely refer to the content of the said law?

Lol well I certainly won’t be giving into Godwins law.  That’s would mean I'd have to actually lose my temper, and after all it's just a forum about a game.  Anyway if you ask me you can flame and be constructive at the same time... Just don't mention the war. Oh how I love Faulty Towers, long live John Cleese!

Originally posted by BlackWatch

 I've heard enough good about Eve to hit the forums from time to time and think about playing it.   But then I read all of the bad stuff about the game and that's where I stop in the process of becoming an Eve Player/Subscriber.

Sometimes, these boards make Eve sound like a cross between 2nd Life and Grand Theft Auto, honestly. 

Aside from trying to figure out what mental issues the PK's might have, why not figure out a process to prevent it from happening again.  If the game is working as intended, then perhaps the player simply needs a different game?

Just looking at this from the outside/in (potential player's perspective). 

 

Just grab the trial and give it a go.  Make your own assessment and ignore the forums cause tbh most of it is bullshit anyways.

Hmm, well the mental disorder rant was just me being a pedant at what was a poorly conceived point, made by a clearly ignorant player. 

i liked eve for about a month, i just got tired of endless skill training , offline training, i even gave  our corps leader the code to my eve mon he had the cookie cutter templatews that worked great for pvp, so he programmed all our ships for whatever it is the direction we were going in, I would have to say it is the best game i never played but paid for, save the few pvp sessions, mining and the same boring repetative missions, i think the ratio for story line missions was after every 15 missions you got a storyline one, meh, the game just wasnt for me, Hopefully with the next expansion where ya can walk around might add some newer stuff to deal with land to ground missions or some type of story arc path to follow as an alternative to the open empty sandboxy feel of the game.

Now as I understand it, and please correct me if I'm wrong, the op is miffed that there are people in Eve that don't subscribe to the idea of the golden rule, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" and such, curse left, right, and sideways, and is disappointed in the fact that the devs won't do anything to curb this trend in gameplay besides say "we're sorry, please call again later."   Now I haven't played the game, but I am very interested in picking it up, but these trends actually make me want to pick this game up even more.  I love the idea of a living, breathing community, complete with saints and sinners alike.  It seems to me that any mature themed mmo like Eve will have its undesirable influences in its community despite any and all efforts to root out said influences.  It's happened in every society and culture that I have ever read about, why not in an online community that is composed of humans that have the capacity for both good and evil?  Personally I would rather have people explore this side of their psyches in a virtual world where all that is at risk is time and effort.  I  guess at the end of the day it all depends on your perspective.  I might be a little miffed too if I was constantly the target of griefers or getting ganked at every turn.  On the other hand, could you not engage in self policing?  Are there any efforts to do so?  Maybe blacklists or embargos?  Food for thought.

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On the other hand, could you not engage in self policing?  Are there any efforts to do so?  Maybe blacklists or embargos?  Food for thought.

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There are a lot of alliances that have a zero-smack-policy. Members who do smacktalk, get booted out of the alliance. Not all do, but quite a lot enforce this strictly.
When i lead a fleet i kick everyone out of both fleet and voicecom if they start to smack in local chat and don't stop after i yell at them, which often means their inevitable death in enemy territory without protection of the fleet. Luckily i had to do this only once.

Eve is a very social game, and if you piss off enough people by being a jerk, you can bet life in new eden will be a lot harder. The "wild west" (0.0 security space) is an unforgiving land, and without teamwork you won't achieve anything there. So if you don't play nice, you simply won't succeed there. Insult a corpmate and he might not help you when you need it. He might "forget" to warn you of that pirate gang of fast ships that is on their way to you..

And, of course, you won't get invited to rl-bbqs!

I was thinking on more of a global (maybe galactic in this case) level.  Like an effort of several corporations to actively pursue griefers and gankers in certain newbie areas to make them think twice about the consequences of attacking new players in high security areas.   Lol.  I can just imagine the conversation when he gets un-invited from the bbq.  "No hot-dog for you!"