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AmazingAvery  4/04/08 7:23:05 PM

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Originally posted by Odysses

To me the real tell tale sign will be funcom's position on dropping the NDA especially with it launching so soon.   WoW and LoTRO have really set the bar on not launching a MMO that is broken and if Funcom is holding off the NDA because they don't want bad word of mouth this game is going to sink fast.

On the other hand with all the hype and anticaption from a lot of MMO fans, good word of mouth could help this game coast to some impressive numbers.


Funcom already did drop the NDA in January for a few days and invited 18 press people around their offices not under NDA to report on how the game is coming along. (including myself :P )

 


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neosurfeur  4/04/08 7:28:29 PM

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juste one thing to say, im in the beta since many month, and I will play this game. that it


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TheDoughboy  4/04/08 7:33:10 PM

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Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

Funcom already did drop the NDA in January for a few days and invited 18 press people around their offices not under NDA to report on how the game is coming along. (including myself :P )

 

 


Did they make you sign or agree to a non-disclosure agreement, then release you from the agreement?  If not, they didn't drop the NDA.   They gave you a press tour.

Dropping the NDA refers to allowing beta testers to discuss their experiences.  It does not apply to press junkets.  Usually, the point of press tours is to release information to the public through the media.

 
AmazingAvery  4/04/08 7:38:34 PM

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Originally posted by TheDoughboy

 

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

Funcom already did drop the NDA in January for a few days and invited 18 press people around their offices not under NDA to report on how the game is coming along. (including myself :P )

 

 


Did they make you sign or agree to a non-disclosure agreement, then release you from the agreement?  If not, they didn't drop the NDA.   They gave you a press tour.

 

Dropping the NDA refers to allowing beta testers to discuss their experiences.  It does not apply to press junkets.  Usually, the point of press tours is to release information to the public through the media.


No one signed anything. There was no NDA on anything they showed us, which was pretty much everything. The competition I won also was a beta invite. You could ask ANY questions, film, record ask anything you wanted. This included many things that were not in beta at that point in time. Was an open door policy. I also had a nice day to myself without no press :)


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talif  4/04/08 8:19:47 PM

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You know the be honest i been thinking the same thing to myself for some time now. If this game does fail to be the next best thing. Atleast i would have a new pc that i built for up and coming mmo's out there and for me there is always Aion

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Gangster-Man  4/04/08 8:20:41 PM

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Originally posted by Alan0n

Combat.  Melee combat looks ... well nice...  But is this game just gonna be about chopping heads as melee and nothing else ?  Was watching video of the makers explain the system and tbh the Spell system seems to be very weak.  What kinda game can maintain any kinda integrity when it seems to be supporting just one way of playing ?

 


Heh, you lost me there. Combo system looks like a great MMO innovation, and I am sure the only spellcasting you have seen is the new Spellcrafter screenshots that were released today.  

 
markyturnip  4/04/08 8:34:46 PM

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Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

Originally posted by Die_Scream

 

Originally posted by Chubbyjesus

Most of the original tester quit.. And wont buy this game.

 

Myself included. I wouldnt even try a 14 day trial. This game is really bad.. Its ALL instanced.. PvP has no meaning and is completely unbalanced.. Top it all off with invisable walls EVERYWHERE..

 

Dead game.

Ouch!

 

When is release anyway? What else besides AO has FC made, I can't think of any.


Try their website maybe>?

 

On another note, about the invisible wall thing. Anyone ever heard of walls been put up in a beta game to force the player base thru one area for performance reasons? plus to actually get the focus there? I have.

Why don't we wait for the game to be released eh?

Then all the naysayers with under 10 posts who never contributed to the community nor the beta nor ever provided any constructive crititism here can simply troll another forum?

 

 

There were invisible walls setup on beta so the devs can funnel players into the areas that need to be tested. They have removed some walls that were existing in areas before hand once some testing was done. The devs have said time and time again the land will be vast and open. They believe exploration is an important part in MMO's these days, and they are right. Beta testers have alot of restrictions but they are there to test what needs to be tested, not jumping around forests and climbing mountains to see how high they can go. Hence the invisible walls you people have been reading about. FC is not the first MMO to have Invis walls in place in beta. It is a good thing to use to funnel players where the devs need testing on most. People would be all over the place not doing their jobs basically if they did not have some restrictions on where to go at the moment. Only areas that MIGHT be linear is tortage but that is not a bad thing. Having a path to follow on your learning trail is a good way to get you engaged into what they feel fit right away to keep you engaged and learning. my opinion anyways.

Avery- I appreciate your posts for the most part, but writing things in large font does not make it sound more convincing.

I would like to know, however, is this the official response from FunCom to the invisible walls furore, or is this your opinion? Are you writing on the basis of assumptions or experience, or direct instructions, here? I am never too sure. I hope you are correct, but I am left unclear as to the status of your posts.

 
Baseline  4/04/08 8:35:46 PM

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It'll be a flop just like vanguard. Lotta hype, lotta promises, and then everyone gets in it and they're like "WHAAAT?! ..... Unsubscribe".

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Originally posted by neosurfeur

juste one thing to say, im in the beta since many month, and I will play this game. that it


Been reading this post and making some judgements of my own, but I just have to say that some of the posters need to slow down and try to write something that at least attempts to seem legible and intelligent. You guys have it in you, I know you can do it.

That being said, I'm going to side with Avery on this. I am staying positive about AoC till I see it for myself. I have absolutely no faith in anyone that breaks NDA. A contract is a contract, you break it on purpose you can't be believed or trusted.

 
Tordak  4/04/08 10:59:42 PM

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Trench1  4/04/08 11:24:48 PM