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iwantmyswg  4/14/08 8:19:54 AM

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once again i see what would have been a great game turned into another warcraft clone.

did people want levels? no we wanted a skill tree system like in uo or pre-cu swg.

did people want pve content? no we wanted pvp and more pvp.

much like swg is now this game will be a let down. i won't pre order it as a friend is giving me a guest pass but both of us feel aoc will be the next game to bomb. it is a shame but oh well we still have the uberness that is eve.

 
therain93  4/14/08 10:23:39 AM

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Originally posted by iwantmyswg

once again i see what would have been a great game turned into another warcraft clone.

did people want levels? no we wanted a skill tree system like in uo or pre-cu swg.

did people want pve content? no we wanted pvp and more pvp.

much like swg is now this game will be a let down. i won't pre order it as a friend is giving me a guest pass but both of us feel aoc will be the next game to bomb. it is a shame but oh well we still have the uberness that is eve.

Maybe you should try not envisioning every new game as the ultimate incarnation of your swg fantasy?  It will make for less of a letdown.

Battlekruse  4/14/08 10:42:12 AM

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Put me down for AoC will flop count. Though its got allot of hard core fan boys already, it may take them some time to realize admit it to themselves.

When I was playing Guild Wars, I heard so much hype about this Vanguard so I checked it out and read on it and checked it out more. I knew at that time it would be a flop for 3 main reasons:

1) Corpse runs
2) long travel times
3) no instance zones

That is death for any game coming out these days, so much for Vanguard.

AoC will flop for a few reasons as well

Game performance issues—although it says it will run on 6600 card, we all know if you don’t have the lastest and greatest it will lag out. Or you will have to turn your settings down so low it will look like crap.

Maturity rating--- this will bring every teen age boy over to look at cyber tits making the maturity level of game play very low

There is no such thing as a “new combat system” That is what they are selling, video games been around for 30 years, if it has not been done before there is a reason for it---it sucked.

There is nothing new here, just the same game done over, go kill 10 spiders return get some xp level.

Since it is a heavy pvp game the classes will never be balanced. You will have one or two alpha classes everyone will play.


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ProfRed  4/14/08 10:56:08 AM

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Originally posted by Battlekruse

Put me down for AoC will flop count. Though its got allot of hard core fan boys already, it may take them some time to realize admit it to themselves.

When I was playing Guild Wars, I heard so much hype about this Vanguard so I checked it out and read on it and checked it out more. I knew at that time it would be a flop for 3 main reasons:

1) Corpse runs
2) long travel times
3) no instance zones

That is death for any game coming out these days, so much for Vanguard.

AoC will flop for a few reasons as well

Game performance issues—although it says it will run on 6600 card, we all know if you don’t have the lastest and greatest it will lag out. Or you will have to turn your settings down so low it will look like crap.

Maturity rating--- this will bring every teen age boy over to look at cyber tits making the maturity level of game play very low

There is no such thing as a “new combat system” That is what they are selling, video games been around for 30 years, if it has not been done before there is a reason for it---it sucked.

There is nothing new here, just the same game done over, go kill 10 spiders return get some xp level.

Since it is a heavy pvp game the classes will never be balanced. You will have one or two alpha classes everyone will play.



<Mod edit> Not that i'm a big fan of AoC, but I salute their originality. WoW has corpse runs, WoW has long travel times, and even if WoW didn't have instances and had even longer travel times it would still be as successful as it is today.
Vanguard didn't fail because of anything you mentioned. Vanguard failed because it was released when it wasn't done, it lacked promised features, and the features it had were implemented poorly.
There is so much new here that is lacking in any MMO to have come out since EQ or in any MMO on the horizon besides this one... Have you even been to the website??
WoW is a heavy PvP game then considering they both have the same setup of having PVE, PVP, and RP-PVP servers, and both end games have a large focus on PVP. WoW constantly rebalances classes to sway advantages causing players to reroll and stay subbed to have the best char available at the time. It's not an accident that they constantly do this either. You are right though WoW failed for this reason...
<Mod edit> Sorry if it's harsh, but slamming on originality for being unoriginal is pretty stupid.

 
Hrica  4/14/08 1:50:58 PM

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Originally posted by airstrike
Originally posted by Hrica

Biggest flop in history of MMO??

Geez no way

This game has mucho $$ invested and huge amounts of talent, Good talents at it's roots


Points at vanguard,alot of cash invested in that aswell and look how well it released.Your one of those people who buy expensive stuff cause you think that the more it costs the better it is ...


Don't try to put a label on some one you don't know. It's not to polite, Shame on you.

Anyhow, all I can say is I know that the game is not a Vanguard. All I can say is I know.

 

 
Arawon  4/14/08 5:47:07 PM

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After VG...no "buying a pig in a poke" for me. I need to have open beta....and lift the NDA..The ONLY reason at this point...5 weeks from launch...................FUNCOM has something to hide from potential software buyers...and they know it.

 
kgibsonuk  4/14/08 6:27:51 PM

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The fact that the 3 day head start for european preorders has now been pulled by Eidos doesn't bode well for AOC. The whole preorder situation has been a complete farce tbh.

 
singsofdeath  4/14/08 6:31:51 PM

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Originally posted by kgibsonuk

The fact that the 3 day head start for european preorders has now been pulled by Eidos doesn't bode well for AOC. The whole preorder situation has been a complete farce tbh.

What are you talking about? I still get the 3 Day Headstart Bonus on any site listing the German version so far. Link please for this?

kgibsonuk  4/14/08 6:34:25 PM

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Originally posted by singsofdeath
Originally posted by kgibsonuk

The fact that the 3 day head start for european preorders has now been pulled by Eidos doesn't bode well for AOC. The whole preorder situation has been a complete farce tbh.

What are you talking about? I still get the 3 Day Headstart Bonus on any site listing the German version so far. Link please for this?


The original thread was deleted however there is a followup here:

http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=68519

 

 

At the moment noone is sure if this is just for UK preorders or the whole of the EU.

 
singsofdeath  4/14/08 6:40:08 PM

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Originally posted by kgibsonuk

 

 

Originally posted by singsofdeath
Originally posted by kgibsonuk

The fact that the 3 day head start for european preorders has now been pulled by Eidos doesn't bode well for AOC. The whole preorder situation has been a complete farce tbh.

What are you talking about? I still get the 3 Day Headstart Bonus on any site listing the German version so far. Link please for this?


The original thread was deleted however there is a followup here:

 

http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=68519

 

 

At the moment noone is sure if this is just for UK preorders or the whole of the EU.

Took a while to read through the thread. Now if this is indeed the case, then cheerios to Eidos for screwing over an entire countries fans of the game. No better way to drive away potential customers than doing this sort of thing.

 

As for the rest of the EU, all the sites I checked so far in Germany at least still have the 3 Day Headstart and various Pre-Order bonuses listed.

 

Still waiting on a final word from FC's Community manager (who i really don#t want to be right now).

kgibsonuk  4/14/08 6:44:45 PM