Age of Conan

I hate raiding and won't play a game that forces you to raid in order to get the best items. If all the raid drop and quest items are fully tradeable, and I mean all of them, every single last one of them, none of this BoP soulbound bullshit, so I can trade ingame for those raid items, then I would consider playing.

There will be raiding, you will get better items for *pve* from raiding, but there will be items from PvP rewards / crafting that will be better for *pvp* but wont cut it in raiding.

I belive thats what AoC's going for. correct me if im wrong

Diablo II sounds like a game for you.

There all Raiding games kid...mores the pity.

City of Heroes/Villains is the only MMO out there not forcing you to PvP/Raid (you can earn everything GROUPING and most of it SOLO)

LotRO, you will be able to get maybe half the items without raiding, and maybe the other half you would need to trade with raiders...if I understand it well.  It was too nasty for me, waiting for games with more freedom.

i love raiding and can't wait for AoC's epic runs. nothing like being apart of a well-oiled raiding machine tearing threw bigger-than-life monsters.

A question to all raid haters. What would you have as a end-game instead of raiding? And if raiding is your answer, what rewards would you like if not good armor and weapons?

recipes maybe, a mother load of building mats could work too. a hardcore buff for the whole guild ur apart of...

Originally posted by Linuxxx

A question to all raid haters. What would you have as a end-game instead of raiding? And if raiding is your answer, what rewards would you like if not good armor and weapons?

I would have grouping PvE encounters(grouping = 6 or less players)...the same as I always did from level 1.  At least on some servers you could earn everything in 1 group tasks.

Originally posted by Anofalye

 

Originally posted by Linuxxx

A question to all raid haters. What would you have as a end-game instead of raiding? And if raiding is your answer, what rewards would you like if not good armor and weapons?

 

I would have grouping PvE encounters(grouping = 6 or less players)...the same as I always did from level 1.  At least on some servers you could earn everything in 1 group tasks.

Taking it further there will be raid dungeons and quite a few of them for those that like that sort of thing. There will also be social dungeons where groups of 6/8/12 people can go in amongst many dozens of similar sized groups of you like that too its there.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

Originally posted by Anofalye

I would have grouping PvE encounters(grouping = 6 or less players)...the same as I always did from level 1.  At least on some servers you could earn everything in 1 group tasks.

You can have that in AoC, there will be a lot of grouping content and solo from what I saw. Infact the one main zone I played through was a 6 man group, in a 90 min 'run thru'. Loot is based on a 'need' or 'greed' basis.

 

Taking it further there will be raid dungeons and quite a few of them for those that like that sort of thing. There will also be social dungeons where groups of 6/8/12 people can go in amongst many dozens of similar sized groups of you like that too its there.

Either you or Mulcher is lying.

You are saying that all the BEST item will all be available in GROUP?  Mulcher just said it was to be earned in raiding, at least some of them.  You cannot be both, you are either awarding everything in group, or not.

EDIT: Unless you have servers with different settings...but I am pretty sure it would be heavily advertised if it was the case....unless you have such servers, then you have either, not both.