General Discussion

Let's face it crafters want to skill up on skills that are their profession. The problem with MMOs is when crafters want to craft, if they want to concentrate on their skills, they have to gather raw materials; or w-a-i-t  forever for it to go on sale by some fighter who usually sells to their own guild first.

Guess where the raw materials are located?

Guess what skills are gimped with crafters (especially when there's limited skills forcing hard choices)?

Guess what happens if they open the combat skills?

Why can't crafters get the PvE materials they need? It's not like fighters want to go hunting for hides all day anyway.

Devs, when you put the goods in PvP zones, and your main is a crafter, there's no way will they normally go retrieve it. And if the items are only valuable for crafting itself, fighters aren't inclined to hunt them down for you. It creates a vacuum, because crafters can't stock up on crafted items, when they're gimped and the fighters are more interested in getting their ready made epics.

We need a bona-fide crafting friendly MMO!

You pretty much want pre-NGE SWG like the rest of us.

'til then, maybe you should try PoTBS. The combat is horrendous but the economic side of it is quite in-depth. Or try Vanguard, that seems to have heavy crafting.

Of all the aspects of a MMOROPG, I find crafting the hardest to mail down. Many games dont have it at all. others have it, but its barely developed.

IN what Ive been able to research, I found that good crafting exsists on
SWG, Vanguard, Second Life, A Tale in the Desertt, EvE and to a lesser extent Conquere Online

However, I doubt any fall into what your looking for. Except perhaps Second Life..which is all crafting if you think about it.

Hope this helps

Torrential

Hi,

I got the answer for you and it's pretty simple Runescape is what it's been called my friend! Many people don't see it because they think the game sucks due the bad graphics and the point & click gameplay but they have got a great crafting system. And I know the age of the average player is probably around 10 years but if you look you will find an adult clan pretty soon. And when you become member all those stupid 8 years old saying they want to show you some armour are gone !

GreetzZz

for just crafting Id recommend Horizons, thats about all it has left but it does it pretty well.

  I havent been to Horizen home page in ages but it was one of the greatest crafting systems known. Plus it has dragons...

WurmOnline, over half the community doesn't train combat  or rarely trains it.   This even holds true on the wild server which has an RvR type system.

Or maybe  "A tale in the desert"  with demons and steampunk?

I have to agree,  PRE CU SWG had the most indepth crafting system that actually rewarded players that worked for it.   I hope one day we will see another system like that.

Yeah I loved being a weaponsmith.  And the gathering and raw material system they had was just SICK man!  I think it's the only game where the raw materials are never in the same place twice, oh and the different quality levels of the same base raw material was awesome.

Vanguard crafting is a