Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

Originally posted by cichy1012

Im not trying to start a war with the prior subscribers to this game. And please note.....prior subscribers. Not those that have never paid one day in Vanguard or decided to base their opinion off a review. How bad is this game to you? Really what put you over the edge to not give it a chance or see through your little gripe or a few bugs. What caused you to log in for the first time, love everything about the game, not notice some bugs, read some reviews or forum complaints and decide and start changing your opinion of the game? What bugs put you over the edge. I want you to name some.

Hardware glitches, some performance issues? You go buy a game like crysis, COD4 or anything new at that and you cant run at full settings. SO what do you do? You lower them right? Cause damn if your not going to get you 50.00 dollars worth. You compensate... thats what you do. Aside from some performance issues, a few bugs, I yet have to hear about; does it take that little to keep you from a game that by far has more potenial that any game out there? Grpahics a 9 perhaps a 10 if you have the hardware, depth and uniqueness cant touch, bar none. If all your friends were playing it, you bet your arse you'd be playing it right along with them. How many of you started with a bunch a friends and you have one influential friend who leaves with the rest of the crowd and you follow? Honestly tell me that Vanguard gave you back what you desired for a moment,  but you never stayed focused long enough to see the genious of the game it really is... 

 

ps...how many of you keep coming back after a patch and some good reviews.. Admit it you want it to be your perfect little MMO, but never will.

Look at EQ how screwed up it was... and BAM...biggest MMO ever...

peace.

And for the record Vanguard's issues are far bigger then the game itself.  It's more that Sony just doesn't get it.  And I am now fairly certain, they never will.

My biggest complaint is that the content was bland and lacking. 

I suffered through the falling through the world bugs and the spontaneous death of my bard at chunk line bugs plus tons of others because I hoped they had more of a game in development but as they cut staff I realized it was about as good as it would ever get. 

Solo adventuring is really boring in this game, no interesting quests you can do solo.  Grouping was good at times but there were few groups except at the most popular spots and I was part of so many guilds that fell apart.

Crafting was as boring as hell, diplomacy was worse and it was a real let down because they talked about a regional trade system based on diplomacy before release that sounded like it would be cool.  It evaporated, like so many good ideas they had before release.  What you have left is a typical mmo with nothing that distinguishes itself as new or innovative.

My biggest complaint is the fact that i cant read any forums about vanguard without reading 1000's of posts from SWG vets that have some agenda against sony  Trying to convince people not to play it

Other than that its the best game out there by far ,which isnt saying much because all mmo's are grinding boring and so repetative its sickening i dont see War or Aoc bringing anything different to the table either more of the same shit , different pile about ready to give up on mmo's myself

I just love when a SOE subscriber comes along a perfectly valid thread detailing specific examples about the game they frequent and then summarily dismisses everything said by deflecting the problem to some other issue.  Then it gets topped off with "best game on the market" as if they are trying to convince themselves more than anyone else.

It never fails.

Originally posted by cichy1012

once again.. no validity in your complaint.. 

Feels like SOE. :P

Anyway, I never sub or purchase the game unlike the person with an unvalid complains.  Personnally, I was looking for a game which give every reward inside a gameplay involving 5-8 players or less in PvE at all moment...and I mean ALL rewards, not missing anything.  Vanguard is not that game, and it never will be.

EQ teaches me that any compromise is bad.  Considering it is becoming an old game with extreme lack of developpment and support; I rather focus on games with "support".

Originally posted by Daffid011

I just love when a SOE subscriber comes along a perfectly valid thread detailing specific examples about the game they frequent and then summarily dismisses everything said by deflecting the problem to some other issue.  Then it gets topped off with "best game on the market" as if they are trying to convince themselves more than anyone else.

 

It never fails.

 

 

 

Its the best game on the market for me , would you like my post more if i whined because i fell through the world 4 or 5 times or found a few broken quests or god forbid lagged a little bit once in a while , bud ive played other games i havent seen anything wrong with vanguard that i havent  seen in any other mmo out there

I'm ok with Vanguard being the best MMO on the market for you, but that isn't exactly the tone your other post had is it? 

Comparing Vanguards quality to the rest of the market as being equal is shady.  Yes I can find many of the bugs in Vanguard in many other MMOs.  I can say this however, I experienced more bugs in Vanguard in a few nights than I have in many games the entire time I was playing them with the longest being measured in years.  I think by the massive exodus of players that  many people shared similar experiences.   You seem very fortunate to be one of the people having almost no problems with the game at all.

Originally posted by Daffid011

I'm ok with Vanguard being the best MMO on the market for you, but that isn't exactly the tone your other post had is it? 

Comparing Vanguards quality to the rest of the market as being equal is shady.  Yes I can find many of the bugs in Vanguard in many other MMOs.  I can say this however, I experienced more bugs in Vanguard in a few nights than I have in many games the entire time I was playing them with the longest being measured in years.  I think by the massive exodus of players that  many people shared similar experiences.   You seem very fortunate to be one of the people having almost no problems with the game at all.

 

 

 

 

Lets see in a 3 month period when blizzard put a fear bug into there game  , i fell through the world more in one day of AB battleground than i have sence day 1 of Vanguard. Ok lets times that by the 3 months it took blizzard to fix it , because they let it slide till thier next patch no hot fix  Now because this was before cross server BG's i waited over 1 1/2 hours to get into that game only to get feared and fall though the world boom kicked out of bg

So in that 3 months blizzard wasted countless hours of my time because i was doing the grand marshal grind i was running bgs all day and half the night

Ok how about the bug blizzard introduced that locked up my rogues and warriors abilities forget what caused it but my rogues abilities would lock up and i couldnt use any of them untill i detargeted and retargeted ok i was doing the grand marshal grind than absolutly a game killer for a rogue in pvp yes detargeting made me lose my combo points at the time not that it matter by the time you figured out you where locked up you where dead anyways 

Once again blizzard let it slide till there next patch so that was another 3 or was it close to 4 months of trying to maintain my honor with a totaly broken character

lets add all the time ive spent sitting at the authentication screen trying for hours and hours to get on to my server and lets add all the days when server lag was so bad you couldnt even use a vendor proberly let alone xp or run bgs oh ya you could play the game with a 15 second delay to everything you did if you wanted  lets add all the time my character was stuck in the loot lag position

Lets add all the times i got CTD and had to sit in a 45 minute que to get back on my server when i just finished waiting through the same que

So you see Daffid vanguard does have bugs forsure but not one of them has ever cost me any play time ever , in fact there rather minor compared to the bugs i was seeing in WOW and really i could play any mmo on the market right now and get a list of bugs and crap except LoTR because man that game is fricken gay i couldn't get past level 6 so i didnt play long enough to see any bugs

Well it would just seem that you are on the polar opposite of mosts peoples experiences in the MMOs you have played now wouldn't it.

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