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qombi  3/24/08 6:55:06 PM

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To me it shows Mythic has a backbone and makes me want to play even more. I say woot for Mythic! I am sick of devs kissing the whiny minorities' butts.

 
DuraheLL  3/24/08 6:56:32 PM

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Originally posted by qombi

To me it shows Mythic has a backbone and makes me want to play even more. I say woot for Mythic! I am sick of devs kissing the whiny minorities' butts.

Use the biggest "ROFL" in history, stated by SOE. "Vocal Minorities"... hahaha! HAHAHAHA! ahh the good times

Shifty360  3/24/08 7:01:38 PM

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I would like to point out (as the one who made the drive through comment) that I was in no way comparing anything to the fast food industry, but rather the idea of drive throughs and conveniance.

Either they give you the information or you find it yourself. Either way your going to get what you need.

 
DuraheLL  3/24/08 7:04:55 PM

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Originally posted by Shifty360

Either they give you the information or you find it yourself. Either way your going to get what you need.

Finding an unofficial site with all the updates you will need and adding it to your internet "bookmark" list takes exactly 1 years, 6 months, 4 weeks, 2 days and 9 hours. It's just a fact. Haha, no I'm just messing around making jokes on others expenses right now :) But I still find it funny they make it sound so hard

 

Lidane  3/24/08 7:05:33 PM

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Originally posted by eric1000

 

1 Known issues will be on the herald as well as on numerous fansites

That's great. So it would be no extra effort on Mythic's part to put them all on an official forum, then. It would just be one extra place for them to list those issues, after all. What's the big deal?


2 so what you're saying here is that new players are too dumb to work out something like the herald.  I and many others didn't have a problem working it out for DAoC and we were new players at that point.

 What I'm saying isn't that people are idiots. I'm saying that people, if they're paying full retail and a monthly fee in order to play your game, expect a certain level of service in return, and they like knowing that the devs are at least pretending to give a damn about how they feel by offering them a place to go and talk about their issues on the company dime.

3 Official forums are a two edged sword.  Yes as you say it gives a place for everyone to find dev posts etc etc.  It also gives a place for devs and mods to feed bullshit to the masses ( just about every SoE game forum ) but most of all it gives those people who would rather spend time trolling a forum rather than play the game somewhere to do it.  To be honest I think we are better off without one.

 I heard the very same arguments before Vanguard went live, and that didn't exactly work out the way that the folks arguing against an offiicial forum said it would.

Also, there was no shortage of bullshit coming out of Brad McQuaid's mouth about the game, and he didn't need official forums to do it, either. Bullshit will happen no matter where it's posted only if the dev posting feels they have nothing to lose. What do they have to lose on a fansite? There's no accountability for them there, so they have even less incentive to shoot straight with players. At least on their own site, they'd be speaking on the equivalent of company letterhead, which would make them think very carefully about what they say and how they say it.

Want to cut down on trolls? Simple-- restrict posting access to the forums to people with active paying accounts, and hire mods that aren't afraid to lower the banhammer if needed. Problem solved. Of course, fans of the game will then refer to any negative post as trolling, but at the very least, everyone involved would have an active account and would be on a level playing field in that regard.

 

 

 
markoraos  3/24/08 7:12:01 PM

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The thread that wouldn't die...

Incredible.

 
DuraheLL  3/24/08 7:15:45 PM

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Originally posted by markoraos

The thread that wouldn't die...

Incredible.

Don't take it seriously :) Just tune in to listen to all the fun which is posted in it like I do

forthelulz  3/24/08 7:16:47 PM

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Originally posted by markoraos

The thread that wouldn't die...

Incredible.

IT'S OVER 9000!!!

Lidane  3/24/08 7:18:55 PM

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Originally posted by DuraheLL

 Finding an unofficial site with all the updates you will need and adding it to your internet "bookmark" list takes exactly 1 years, 6 months, 4 weeks, 2 days and 9 hours. It's just a fact. Haha, no I'm just messing around making jokes on others expenses right now :) But I still find it funny they make it sound so hard

 

If you went out and bought a brand new car and you had problems with it, would you rather go to a bunch of fansites for that car to get an answer for your issues, or would you rather talk to the manufacturer directly, and have them take a look at your car to see what the problem is, then fix it?

Sure, it's not hard to bookmark a bunch of sites, but would you really trust a car company that told you to Google the answer for why your new car keeps having problems, or would you trust the one that takes the time to personally talk to you and deal with your issues in order to resolve them?

It's about treating your customers in a professional manner. It's taking the easy way out to expect other customers to pick up the slack for you instead of you doing your own job of offering support and help for your product.

 
Arkane_A  3/24/08 7:24:06 PM

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Originally posted by Lidane

 

Originally posted by DuraheLL

 Finding an unofficial site with all the updates you will need and adding it to your internet "bookmark" list takes exactly 1 years, 6 months, 4 weeks, 2 days and 9 hours. It's just a fact. Haha, no I'm just messing around making jokes on others expenses right now :) But I still find it funny they make it sound so hard

 

If you went out and bought a brand new car and you had problems with it, would you rather go to a bunch of fansites for that car to get an answer for your issues, or would you rather talk to the manufacturer directly, and have them take a look at your car to see what the problem is, then fix it?

Sure, it's not hard to bookmark a bunch of sites, but would you really trust a car company that told you to Google the answer for why your new car keeps having problems, or would you trust the one that takes the time to personally talk to you and deal with your issues in order to resolve them?

It's about treating your customers in a professional manner. It's taking the easy way out to expect other customers to pick up the slack for you instead of you doing your own job of offering support and help for your product.

Bad comparison, cars don't get regular upgrades, free patches, free content updates, money back if you the servers are laggy,  you don't have thousands of people in your car and it is a hell of a lot cheaper to buy a new mmo compared to a new car. I've never been to a Chevy forum in my life and they never told me at the dealership to visit the official forum.

/end the joke that you are going to take very seriously.

DuraheLL  3/24/08 7:27:25 PM