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johanman0 11/05/08 6:51:15 AM
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ok thnx for the info . |
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bratisla 11/05/08 6:54:07 AM
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On that topic, ZtyX, I just looked at what you said on the official forum, about the "NASA requires basic features, gamers require complex systems". I don't even bother to create an account on darkandlight.com, so I ask you directly here. Do you really believe in what you say ? Seriously ? |
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johanman0 11/05/08 6:54:10 AM
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btw does any 1 know an mmorpg like dnl? (must be free) thnx |
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Raltar 11/05/08 3:44:59 PM
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Anyone who wants to go into outer space is not playing with a full deck! (Example: Richard Garriot) |
The reason NASA reqires basic features is because they are trying to do a JOB, not have fun. When you are floating around in space trying not to die you want your stuff to be basic and realible so that you know how it will function and that it will function only the way you want it to. For the purpose of designing a game having things always go exactly the way they are meant to is boring. This is why gamers want complex systems... its just plain more FUN. Originally posted by johanman0
That depends on which features from DnL you want to see in another game. Luckily, there are no other games exactly like DnL but there are others with similar features. And honestly, you aren't going to find a free game that is any good. If it were any good it wouldn't be free. |
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ZtyX 11/05/08 6:47:09 PM
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Originally posted by bratisla
I logged on just to answer your question.
Yes. It can be said as simple as that. But, you probably want me to elaborate. I'll do that. NASA needs a simulator with a good navigational system behind. Of course they would use Vworld when it is already a created globe. They could possibly use Vworld for presenting a space launch in beautiful visuals. Vworld has a strong navigational function. It's a copy of the world, so naturally it's very precise. It uses satelite pictures, GPS locations and even has coverage of some ocean bottom. .. I don't imagine NASA can use Vworld for all of their tasks. And Im sure they have many very advanced mathematical tools and procedures. Just think about the check sequences they have to go through, or just the electrical circuits. I get a headache thinking about it.
But, that's not where Vworld can help. Vworld is good for seeing the bigger picture. For presentations or briefings. That's what I meant. As for DnL. Well, DnL is an MMORPG. MMORPGs are extremely delicate. They are always on the edge of technology trying to optimize every single thing. .. DNL was a next generation mmo and it tried to do some very ambitious things. One thing is to have a recreation of the globe. Another thing is to allow for game systems and features to be incorporated into that globe. Gamers except more than just a view of Dark and LIght. They expect a highly advanced interactive experience. THAT is much more advanced that what I believe NASA can ever use Vworld for. Mmorpgs are different from Space programs. They require different things. You can argue one is more advanced than the other and perhaps I would agree if they made a very good simulator using Vworld. Maybe they have. Maybe they will. Still.. It has to be a darn good simulator, with some darn advanced features to compete with all that framework behind an MMORPG. |
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Raltar 11/05/08 7:34:36 PM
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Anyone who wants to go into outer space is not playing with a full deck! (Example: Richard Garriot) |
Yeah, SOOOOOOO? What was the point of that rant Zytx? You ramble on about NASA and Vworld but never explain what any of it has to do with DnL. Just face it: DnL is dead. Stop trying to blame Pix. Stop trying to blame Vworld. Stop trying to blame the french court system. Stop trying to blame... NASA? DnL was just a BAD game and now its dead. Get over it and find a new game to obsess over. (Either that or anwser my question already!) |
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GrayGhost79 11/05/08 11:03:43 PM
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Originally posted by ZtyX
I logged on just to answer your question.
Yes. It can be said as simple as that. But, you probably want me to elaborate. I'll do that. NASA needs a simulator with a good navigational system behind. Of course they would use Vworld when it is already a created globe. They could possibly use Vworld for presenting a space launch in beautiful visuals. Vworld has a strong navigational function. It's a copy of the world, so naturally it's very precise. It uses satelite pictures, GPS locations and even has coverage of some ocean bottom. .. I don't imagine NASA can use Vworld for all of their tasks. And Im sure they have many very advanced mathematical tools and procedures. Just think about the check sequences they have to go through, or just the electrical circuits. I get a headache thinking about it.
But, that's not where Vworld can help. Vworld is good for seeing the bigger picture. For presentations or briefings. That's what I meant. As for DnL. Well, DnL is an MMORPG. MMORPGs are extremely delicate. They are always on the edge of technology trying to optimize every single thing. .. DNL was a next generation mmo and it tried to do some very ambitious things. One thing is to have a recreation of the globe. Another thing is to allow for game systems and features to be incorporated into that globe. Gamers except more than just a view of Dark and LIght. They expect a highly advanced interactive experience. THAT is much more advanced that what I believe NASA can ever use Vworld for. Mmorpgs are different from Space programs. They require different things. You can argue one is more advanced than the other and perhaps I would agree if they made a very good simulator using Vworld. Maybe they have. Maybe they will. Still.. It has to be a darn good simulator, with some darn advanced features to compete with all that framework behind an MMORPG.
So.... then the new saying should be.... "Omg, it's not as hard as Developing an MMORPG, it's just rocket science" instead of "It's not rocket science, DRRRR" .............. just curious, I always assumed NASA would require more than an MMO, I mean while your pixelated Avatar may be on the line, NASA has billions of Dollars and Lives on the line...... |
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Raltar 11/06/08 2:26:18 AM
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Anyone who wants to go into outer space is not playing with a full deck! (Example: Richard Garriot) |
I think what hes trying to say is that MMORPGs are more complicated than the software NASA uses. As I was trying to point out before, NASA probably keeps their stuff simple so that it will be reliable and function the way its designed to. As you said, lives are on the line so its important that things work properly. With an MMORPG on the other hand you can draw up a super complex list of features you want the game to have, deliver none of them and release a broken half-finished game instead. You know, kind of like DnL. Why Ztyx thinks pointing this out is going to help his case I have no idea. As usual he is making no sense at all! |
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_Pix_ 11/06/08 3:28:31 AM
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