WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by Jixx

If I play WAR it won't be because Mythic developed it.  Considering the DEVs have demonstrated the ability to totally ruin a MMO.  Also considering they now fall under EA It has two big whammies going against it not for it.

I'd say add a third option.  Play it because its a new MMO.

Although I have being paying attention to dev interviews and it sounds like they have learned from thier mistakes. 

 

That is your opinion. I don't think ToA or NF was a mistake.

Neither of the alternatives. The reason why I'm awaiting this game with high anticipation is mainly because it's a MMORPG, but so are many other games coming this year, why this one? WAR's focus on PvP and RvR got me hooked directly. As a fan of PvP I directly got interested by this game when I heard about it, it seemed like this was the game where I could finally get my fix of PvP, something I didn't get enough of in WoW. In WoW I realized I wanted more PvP and more balanced such, when I saw WAR I realized that was the game I had dreamed of; lots of good, fun, balanced PvP.

Because WAR is more than the sum of its parts...

For me it's because of the Warhammer Lore. I played the pen and paper RPG, 40K, Epic, Fantasy and the PC titles amongst other games like Talisman.
I'm still waiting for the movie to come out - maybe one day as some projects were droped others started but beside not knowing much about it I know it's not Games Worshop related. So in the end I guess you could say that I'm a die hard fan (since the late 80s).
DAoC never got me really interested although I liked their RvR and Siege concept. If I'm not mistaken Mythic was the first to do it so that must show some inovation from their devs (I know Shadowbane also had RvR... but no Siege).
Anyway what I was try to say is that I was first all in it because it's Warhammer but since it's development I really appreciated what they've been doing.

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Originally posted by Anofalye

The only reason I still glance occasionnally at this title, it is because it is Warhammer.

 

These devs are wackos and I won't be playing their game unless they change CORE aspect to make sure someone can be happy in PvE.  But they won't.  They want everyone with a focus to RvR.  They can't change my focus in games now...

 

I don't care if 5% of their game is geared toward PvE...it must be FREE from RvR(and raiding) and then I will support it.  Without such a freedom, I won't put on shackles willingly.

I also hope the game has good PvE. I thought the PvE part of DAoC was good. Lot's of interesting dungeons, mobs, and grouping was good. PvE with an 8 man group was great.

I think Anofayle is saying that it should be an option to PvE, without getting ganked. I'll be really surprised if that's not an option in WAR.

Most remember DAoC. It was an ideal set up. You could PvE if you wanted in your realm, and not be bothered by RvR, not worry about getting ganked while you were busy working on some PvE goal.

If you wanted a little more excitement, you could go PvE in the frontier. You could still work on your PvE goals, but you might run into the enemy, which made it more exciting.

Then if you wanted PvP, you could go to a battleground, or go attack a keep, go to the enemies frontier, or whatever.

I know WAR won't be exactly the same, but I'm expecting something similar.

Originally posted by gillvane1

 

Originally posted by Anofalye

The only reason I still glance occasionnally at this title, it is because it is Warhammer.

 

These devs are wackos and I won't be playing their game unless they change CORE aspect to make sure someone can be happy in PvE.  But they won't.  They want everyone with a focus to RvR.  They can't change my focus in games now...

 

I don't care if 5% of their game is geared toward PvE...it must be FREE from RvR(and raiding) and then I will support it.  Without such a freedom, I won't put on shackles willingly.

 

 

I also hope the game has good PvE. I thought the PvE part of DAoC was good. Lot's of interesting dungeons, mobs, and grouping was good. PvE with an 8 man group was great.

 

I think Anofayle is saying that it should be an option to PvE, without getting ganked. I'll be really surprised if that's not an option in WAR.

Most remember DAoC. It was an ideal set up. You could PvE if you wanted in your realm, and not be bothered by RvR, not worry about getting ganked while you were busy working on some PvE goal.

If you wanted a little more excitement, you could go PvE in the frontier. You could still work on your PvE goals, but you might run into the enemy, which made it more exciting.

 

Then if you wanted PvP, you could go to a battleground, or go attack a keep, go to the enemies frontier, or whatever.

I know WAR won't be exactly the same, but I'm expecting something similar.

For those of us who have done research, or visited the EA Mythic website since January have likely seen this podcast. As stated, the game starts off 80% PvE and 20% PvP and gradually switches to 80% PvP and 20% PvE. You can advance to max rank without going into PvP combat, but this game is RvR. So, even just sitting and doing PvE quests, you are still participating in RvR. You are not fighting other people, but every action taken in this game helps your side achieve victory points which helps.

My guess is Anofalye can't tell the difference between PvE, PvP, and RvR in this game, and is just complaining due to a lack of information.

I am a huge old school Warhammer fan. I played the tabletop miniture game for a few years and the pnp rpg for a lot of years. Plus all the Warhammer RTS's. The company that initially started to develop the MMO had me incredibly excited about the project. They seemed to have thier finger directly on the pulse of the game. Warhamer is dark gritty evil and not a very nice place to live. Thier magic system based on all the information that was available on the website seemed to be the most intense and challenging I had ever seen. I was extremely dissapointed when they stopped development due to financial and publisher issues.

I was happy to see that it was picked up again. However I am a bit leary about having Mythic develop it. I played DAoC for a few months. Got high enough to venture into the pvp and quest around a bit. It was a decent game and if I didn't have so many other things on my plate at the time I probably would have played it for a while longer. The thing that made me feel a bit trepiditious about thier taking over the game is I did not think they would be able to escape thew format that they are familiar with to truly do the game world justice.

The graphics that I have seen so far seem a little to cartoony and not dark enough. The pvp seems interesting. But having it being RVR centric will take quite a bit away from the shadyness and overall grey moral area that everyone in the Warhammer world walks in. If you are playing a Witchhunter you should be able to hunt and kill any caster that you want regardless of realm. If you are a Bounty Hunter you should be able to hunt and kill any player that follows a criminal career path.

I am still going to be first in line to buy it when it comes out. And I will do everything that I can to set aside any prejudice I might feel and play the game as it stand and for what it is worth. I am hoping that it will be an engrossing and engaging gaming experiance that will redefine how I play MMO's.

Toons

I did my research.

SOME of the best rewards are given exclusively in RvR.  If you REALLY support PvE-grouping, then a player would not be better rewarded to go OUTSIDE of this activity.

Originally posted by JK-Kanosi

Originally posted by Jixx

If I play WAR it won't be because Mythic developed it.  Considering the DEVs have demonstrated the ability to totally ruin a MMO.  Also considering they now fall under EA It has two big whammies going against it not for it.

I'd say add a third option.  Play it because its a new MMO.

Although I have being paying attention to dev interviews and it sounds like they have learned from thier mistakes. 

 

That is your opinion. I don't think ToA or NF was a mistake.

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