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  jusomdude

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OP  2/15/08 8:36:16 PM#1

Turbine seems to be the only company that doesn't gouge players for content, but they're really just doing what companies are supposed to be doing. Other games release patches and all that but most of it is bug fixes and balances or little insignificant things. Turbine actually releases content that we're paying for with our monthly fees.

  Scottc

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2/15/08 8:37:31 PM#2

Its too bad thats the only thing Turbine does right.

  Hairysun

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Boo ....

2/15/08 8:41:22 PM#3

  Graphics.....don't forget the graphics.  I think Turbine has produced the best graphics in an MMO to date.  Just another thing they do right.

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  Deathstrike2

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2/15/08 8:43:41 PM#4

Originally posted by Scottc

Its too bad thats the only thing Turbine does right.


That's harsh.  What are you saying they do that's so wrong?

 

  Deathstrike2

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2/15/08 8:45:28 PM#5
Originally posted by Hairysun

  Graphics.....don't forget the graphics.  I think Turbine has produced the best graphics in an MMO to date.  Just another thing they do right.

 ~Hairysun~


I would absolutely love to see AC1 redone with LOTRO quality graphics. 

  Kyleran

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2/15/08 8:52:59 PM#6

Well, EVE releases free patches, and WOW actually is a good value.  They've added tons of free content and only one for-pay upgrade in 3.25 years. Don't forget, Lineage 1 and 2 have always released their updates for free.  GW's doesn't even have monthly fees, though you sort of make up for it in upgrade charges.

Too bad nothing Turbine has appeals to me.  I'd love to see an AC remake though with updated graphics.

 

 

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  Scottc

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2/15/08 8:57:48 PM#7
Originally posted by Deathstrike2

 

Originally posted by Scottc

Its too bad thats the only thing Turbine does right.


That's harsh.  What are you saying they do that's so wrong?

 

 

Ignoring the concepts that came from the game that made them a big player in the industry.  They've shifted from very good PvP and PvE content with deep quests and very involving combat where the player had a chance of changing the outcome, not just the players level, rich backstory for the game, absolutely amazing live events that let the players get involved in the story.  They've shifted towards more static content, boring killtask quests, basically WoW clones.  I'd pay to play DDO though, as that had some of the features that made Asheron's Call a great game.

  Eraserhead

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2/16/08 11:11:38 AM#8

The irony of this topic is massive considering Turbine released a payed expansion for AC2 then closed the game down a month later.

  Scottc

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2/16/08 11:17:24 AM#9
Originally posted by Eraserhead

The irony of this topic is massive considering Turbine released a payed expansion for AC2 then closed the game down a month later.

Hahaha, I forgot about that.

  HYPERI0N

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2/16/08 11:32:24 AM#10

EvE online seems to be doing OK in this area. 6 years and NO payed for expansions. Just free content Upgrades.

Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981

  Nadia

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2/16/08 11:39:09 AM#11
Originally posted by HYPERI0N

EvE online seems to be doing OK in this area.

6 years and NO payed for expansions. Just free content Upgrades.

that is impressive

  User Deleted
2/16/08 2:13:33 PM#12

Turbine, CCP and Lineage II all do this.  (CCP makes EVE and is producing a WOD MMO as well but it's not out yet).

 

Not really isolated to Turbine, tbh.  Though it is one of the 'few' that do it.  And it's definitely a trend I hope catches on.  I refuse to pay a sub for a game and then buy expansions on top of that.  Got over that REALLY fast with EQ and haven't  bought an expansion for a subscription based game since.

  Vincenz

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2/16/08 2:25:33 PM#13

As one of DDO's biggest supporters and first to point out they've more than doubled DDO's content since launch...I'll also say they launched the game "content light" in the first place, and it really hurt the game.

 

That said, every time I hit a dev tracker or look at changes the game's made in response to audience request, I give them props as a great developer who listens to it's peeps. 

I also believe that DDO was a huge disappointment on sub numbers...which would be tempting to write off...and instead, they built the game over and over into something to be really proud of, and will probably reap the benefits of it long term.

 

THAT is something to want and demand out of a developer.

  Nadia

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3/14/08 2:47:42 PM#14
Originally posted by Elnator

 I refuse to pay a sub for a game and then buy expansions on top of that.  Got over that REALLY fast with EQ and haven't  bought an expansion for a subscription based game since.

 

I think the announced LOTRO expansion is great news

 

but its going to be a *retail* expansion - you need to buy

  User Deleted
3/14/08 2:58:50 PM#15

 

Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Elnator

 I refuse to pay a sub for a game and then buy expansions on top of that.  Got over that REALLY fast with EQ and haven't  bought an expansion for a subscription based game since.

 

I think the announced LOTRO expansion is great news

 

but its going to be a *retail* expansion - you need to buy

 

Link?  I don't play LOTRO so not sure what you're talking about.  Played it for several months but eventually tired of it and moved on to something else.   It, like EQ, WOW and many others, is far too linear for me.  Far prefer a more open system like DDO, SWG (Pre-CU), EVE, UO, even DAOC where you have more room to customize your character.

I wasn't aware Turbine was going to be releasing a 'paid for' expansion for LOTRO though... that's dissapointing.

  Nadia

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3/14/08 3:05:17 PM#16

kotaku.com/367908/lotro-expansion-explores-mines-of-moria

the first retail expansion, Mines of Moria

 

www.massively.com/2008/03/14/more-mines-of-moria-information-revealed/

Annual expansions and quarterly episodic content (Books)

  wolffin

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3/14/08 3:08:05 PM#17
Originally posted by Scottc

Its too bad thats the only thing Turbine does right.


Ain't that the truth. After they foobarred DDO so bad dont think I will ever play one of there games again tho

  Paragus1

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3/14/08 3:09:18 PM#18

I'm sorry but I'm going to have to respectably disagree.  This company hasn't had an original idea since Asheron's Call 1.   They have hinged their entire business by riding the coat tails of other people's franchises and intellectual property.   While they are trying to cash in by making games that share a title with franchise names we hold near and dear, their one saving grace, Asheron's Call, has been left rotting on the wayside like MMO roadkill.

  gestalt11

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3/14/08 3:22:24 PM#19

CoX doesn't gouge players for new content.  i!2 alone is adding 4 new Epic Villain archetypes a long with revamping the Hollows zone.

Last issue had the Rikti mothership raids etc etc.

  Thillian

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3/14/08 3:25:15 PM#20
Originally posted by Paragus1

I'm sorry but I'm going to have to respectably disagree.  This company hasn't had an original idea since Asheron's Call 1. ... 


So you're saying Asheron's Call 2 and DDonline were not original games with original gameplay? Because I believe these two games were one of the most original mmo's ever made.

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