General Discussion

Originally posted by andyjd

 

Originally posted by Scottc

I find it interesting that LOTRO has the exact same game mechanics as WoW and plays just the same, and yet Eve online has a bigger population than it.

Pretty much because its so much like WoW, yet WoW is bigger and better in pretty much everyway.Once you get past the fact it's Middle Earth and see all the places from the book and movies, then it really starts to feel like a poorer cousin of WoW.

 

Lets see: Wow has

More variety in classes (as LOTR is limited by IP)

More variety in locations (as LOTR is limited by IP)

More varirty in mobs (as in LOTR you kill the same bears/wovles/goblins etc etc)

More varity in dungeons

More varity in loot

More varity in gameplay (having a more advanced and interesting PvP system).....

If Turbine had gone for the more Middle Earth:Online format...and made it less like WoW...it would have been better for them.

I just got finished playing the 7day trial for LoTRO and the whole time I felt like I was playing WoW... and I never liked WoW(except for the battlegrounds, they were a blast)  =/   I wish they had made it less like WoW, the story in it is very interesting with the main questline.  That and the music system in it made me want to subscribe, but like you said, everything else in it was like WoWlite

Originally posted by Nadia

 

Originally posted by Xiaoki

I looked all over the site and could not find the Accuracy Ratings. Or, how he came by the number that is listed.

look again

 

www.mmogchart.com/analysis-and-conclusions/

Lineage 1 and Lineage 2 are quite reliable because NCSoft discloses concurrent subscribers in financial reports and deserves a rating of an A.

However, FF11 has a rating of a B and thats based on a PR release from 3 years ago.

LotRO also has a accuracy rating of a B and that he admits is a complete guess.

Mention of this site should be a bannable offense here.

Originally posted by Xiaoki

 

However, FF11 has a rating of a B and thats based on a PR release from 3 years ago.

May 16th, 2007

www.playonline.com/ff11us/guide/development/census/07/index.html

Originally posted by Kyntor

 

Originally posted by HYPERI0N

That chart seems fine to me if you include the version without WoW in it that way everything isn't bunched together at the bottom.

http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart2.html

Does Tabula Rasa really have 125,000 subscribers?  It seems a litle excessive to me.

 

 

Although I think MMOGdata make fairly accurate estimates for many titles, I will like to know where the Tabula Rasa figure was obtained or what led to the assumption - if it was a guess. I personally have Tabula Rasa at 30,000 to 40,000 subscribers.

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Originally posted by JonMichael

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Originally posted by Vincenz

I think it's amazing that anyone gives this site any credibility...at all.

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QFT.

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Well at least the publicly known numbers are correct.

And when he actually does a guess, he rates the confidence as "D"

Perhaps you flamers are a bunch of fanbois and on his chart your game underperformes?

Originally posted by CyberWiz

 

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Originally posted by JonMichael

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Originally posted by Vincenz

 

I think it's amazing that anyone gives this site any credibility...at all.

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QFT.

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Well at least the publicly known numbers are correct.

And when he actually does a guess, he rates the confidence as "D"

Perhaps you flamers are a bunch of fanbois and on his chart your game underperformes?

No, we just recognize a turd when we see one, and MMOGchart is one. Again, the only time that site is correct is when it has info already published in other public places. If the numbers aren't posted officially, the dude has no clue and puts whatever number he thinks is right at that moment. I'd get better info from a broken Magic 8 Ball.

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Originally posted by curiindi

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Originally posted by Kyntor

 

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Originally posted by HYPERI0N

That chart seems fine to me if you include the version without WoW in it that way everything isn't bunched together at the bottom.
http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart2.html

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Does Tabula Rasa really have 125,000 subscribers?  It seems a litle excessive to me.
 
 

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I agree.
Although I think MMOGdata make fairly accurate estimates for many titles, I will like to know where the Tabula Rasa figure was obtained or what led to the assumption - if it was a guess. I personally have Tabula Rasa at 30,000 to 40,000 subscribers.

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Now you are talking about mmogdata, which is a site that has nothing to do with mmogchart.com.

mmogdata is an actual site with totally bogus information, mixing "active subscriber numbers" and "characters ever created" in the same charts.

Originally posted by CyberWiz

 

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Originally posted by curiindi

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Originally posted by Kyntor

 

 

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Originally posted by HYPERI0N

 

That chart seems fine to me if you include the version without WoW in it that way everything isn't bunched together at the bottom.
http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart2.html

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Does Tabula Rasa really have 125,000 subscribers?  It seems a litle excessive to me.
 
 

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I agree.
Although I think MMOGdata make fairly accurate estimates for many titles, I will like to know where the Tabula Rasa figure was obtained or what led to the assumption - if it was a guess. I personally have Tabula Rasa at 30,000 to 40,000 subscribers.

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Now you are talking about mmogdata, which is a site that has nothing to do with mmogchart.com.

mmogdata is an actual site with totally bogus information, mixing "active subscriber numbers" and "characters ever created" in the same charts.

Oops, I meant to say MMOGchart; nonetheless, I will like to know how that number came about.

WTH is Dofus?