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  serjndestroy

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Joined: 1/19/07
Posts: 69

Save me from what I believe

11/19/08 3:34:20 AM#61

Well, Linus Torvalds is Finnish, and he started the linux project, but it's development is spread across the world, so it may originate from Finland, but it isn't quite a Finnish project, any more than Ubuntu is a South African project.

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  Wyatt7

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Joined: 12/04/08
Posts: 3

12/04/08 6:27:02 PM#62

Hello,

 

Currently Regnum Online offers a 32bit and 64bits native linux client. I would recommend to all linux users to try this game out and give it a shot :).

 

The community for the game is very awesome as well.

 

Regards.

Wyatt
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  OtoryShigeru

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Joined: 11/26/08
Posts: 1

12/17/08 12:15:22 PM#63

Time ago, i was able to perfectly run 12 Sky of Aeria Games on Ubuntu 8.04 using Wine.

A lot of windows games can work in Linux, just need Wine, Cedega, PlayOnLinux or CorssOver.

 

It would be great if the games developver makes the games also compatible with Linux.

 

PD: forgive my bad english, i am from venezuela, so i write better in spanish.

  Calind0r

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Joined: 2/10/08
Posts: 739

12/17/08 4:58:43 PM#64

Lineage 2 has linux support, however Linux itself blocks gameguard which is detected as a rootkit, so you'll need the anti GG patch botters use to play.

 

I love Linux, especially FC9, but I wouldnt play games on it yet, especilly if I had a dual boot, the performance would be 30% lower, emulator or not.

  grimboj

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Game hopping since 2003.

1/01/09 5:11:19 PM#65

Wine supports DirectX 9.0c. WoW is very easy to configure under wine although it has some annoying bugs (like no map indoors and cursor lag). EVE works under wine but only the standard graphics version and it crashes a lot. You can get most big mmos working under wine with a bit of tweaking from looking at the wine support list.

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  Calind0r

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1/07/09 1:30:08 PM#66

Supported doesn't mean they run well..like you said there are problems, and due to the nature of games and DLLs, games run slower. WoW is going to run slower on WINE than it would on Windows, even games like Doom 3 that are designed to run on Linux are still on average 30% slower than the same game on Windows Vista/XP.

  Andir

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Joined: 8/30/06
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1/28/09 8:12:33 AM#67

Um, I'd agree with you that ported games will run slower... 30%?  doubt it.  Native games could actually run faster.  Some Wine games actually run faster.  I don't know where you get your information from, but I'd suggest looking elsewhere.

 

As for On-Topic conversation....

 

I see the OP hasn't been updated in some time.  Maybe the MMORPG crew know this and I asked it in the LFGame section... Will MMORPG.com be adding a Linux specific search criteria to the Games list?

  Calind0r

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1/28/09 4:47:48 PM#68

 There are countless linux benchmarks for games. Here's one from anandtech for Doom 3

www.anandtech.com/linux/showdoc.aspx

Sorry it was a 29% loss compared to Vista.

  Andir

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1/28/09 5:19:24 PM#69
Originally posted by Calind0r

 There are countless linux benchmarks for games. Here's one from anandtech for Doom 3

www.anandtech.com/linux/showdoc.aspx

Sorry it was a 29% loss compared to Vista.

I can point to a benchmark myself:  www.phoronix.com/scan.php

It doesn't mean that everything performs the same.  You picked on one game.

  Athaba

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Joined: 7/06/03
Posts: 47

3/13/09 8:15:41 PM#70
Originally posted by serjndestroy

Well, Linus Torvalds is Finnish, and he started the linux project, but it's development is spread across the world, so it may originate from Finland, but it isn't quite a Finnish project, any more than Ubuntu is a South African project.

 

That's not really corrext. It's true that Linux started Linux, but Linux is only a kernel. While this it is an integral part of the operating system GNU, which is what you are usually talking about, when you say Linux already existed, when Linux was born. It's called Linux, because the original Kernel for GNU named Hurd has a very slow development process. Linux is replacing it, that's why a lot of people say GNU/Linux.

 

It's a bit confusing, but in short: What you see is GNU.

A user (and even most developers) don't get it contact with Linux itself.

 

AFAIK GNU was born in the USA. GNU means Gnu is not Unix (it's a clone) and their goal was to make an open source operating system to change everything, if you want to. BSD (which IS a kind Unix) even existed before GNU and is also Open Source and is compatible with GNU/Linux (and GNU/Hurd).

 

So much about history. :)

  Secrom

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Joined: 1/29/05
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4/25/09 2:23:58 PM#71
Originally posted by UbahNecro

 


Originally posted by Cereberus
linux is great for everything apart from gaming and dont blame linux for that blame the devs who dont make the source for the game available too linux users

No, blame the Linux users for thinking that the source of every company's income should be available freely to everyone else.

 

Games on Linux are bad. Driver support on Linux is bad. Running games in a VirtualBox Windows XP Session on Linux is very LOL...

[...]

Another problem with GNU/Linux is that kind of FUD... Thanks for the pages I had to skip.

Anyway back to topic:

Unigine, game engine under development  http://unigine.com/devlog/61/

Not sure yet what game they're going to build upon it though.

  findarato

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Joined: 7/10/04
Posts: 73

5/02/09 10:57:43 AM#72
Originally posted by UbahNecro

 


Originally posted by Cereberus
linux is great for everything apart from gaming and dont blame linux for that blame the devs who dont make the source for the game available too linux users

No, blame the Linux users for thinking that the source of every company's income should be available freely to everyone else.

 

Games on Linux are bad. Driver support on Linux is bad. Running games in a VirtualBox Windows XP Session on Linux is very LOL...

[...]


I dont know where you get your information, Driver support is fine. Both major video card companies have native Linux drivers. There are plenty of closed source apps for linux, we have a few running at work.  Just because everything should be open source doesn't mean that they have to. 

 

If FOSS was the only thing keeping games off Linux that is really sad.  Its a good platform for anything.  If you haven't tried it lately you really should. www.ubuntu.com/ fedoraproject.org/  Those are my 2 favorite blends.
 

  User Deleted
5/02/09 4:46:03 PM#73
Originally posted by faselei

I have just switched to Linux. I miss Civ4, and FreeCiv is hardly the same :P

I removed my last copy of Windows and went 100% linux about a month ago. I vowed to play only games that have Linux clients (native) and I refuse to use Wine or anything like it. I thought I would miss playing LOTRO, EVE, WAR, and Darkfall. Funny thing happened...I don't miss them at all. Not sure if that says something about me or the games, but...

I would have never discovered Savage 2 (found while searching for Linux games) and NWN plays wonderfully with the Linux binaries. In fact, many of the player-run multiplayer NWN modules are more MMO-like than the "big" commerical MMOs.

If these game companies decide to get serious and build Linux clients, I'll come back. Until then, I keep my $15 a month.

 

  User Deleted
5/02/09 5:06:10 PM#74
Originally posted by UbahNecro

 


Originally posted by Cereberus
linux is great for everything apart from gaming and dont blame linux for that blame the devs who dont make the source for the game available too linux users

No, blame the Linux users for thinking that the source of every company's income should be available freely to everyone else.

 

 

SOME Linux users. There are those "fanatics" that think every software product on the planet should be free and open source, but that makes no sense. There is nothing wrong with making a living building software.

My problem is with the operating system. An OS should be part of a computer -- the computer cannot function without the OS. But you BUY a computer and LICENSE the OS. That's like buying a car and being told you only have a license to use the engine.

Software products, on the other hand, I like to think of as auto accessories -- you don't need them to operate the car, they are just nice to have. If you want something different (or better) you pay for it.

I recommend that everyone read Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning Was the Command Line", especially the chapter "MGBs, Tanks, and Batmobiles". He makes the book available as a text file download from the Cryptonomicon website, www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html.

 

  mlauzon

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/21/05
Posts: 772

5/26/09 10:21:50 AM#75


Originally posted by Mhaug
I've just updated my PC to Opensuse 11.0 (an excellent OS) and with Virtualbox from  http://www.virtualbox.org  I'm running Windows XP for any of those games I can't be without but are troublesome on Linux. I've installed and am currently updating Lotro through the virtualbox/XP setup and it seems to be going well. I'll report back if I get any problems but for all intents and purposes I'm running the game on an XP machine, so it should just work.
For those purist out there who balk at the idea of running Windows in any form, you are unfortunately left with the likes of Wine from  http://www.winehq.org, Cedega from http://www.transgaming.com or Crossover from http://www.codeweavers.com/products. Forgive me if I missed any. These solutions try to run the games without the need for a (true) windows instalation at all, while Virtualbox needs a fully licenced version of windows to be installed onto a virtaul PC. After that, it runs within Linux and at the very least removes the necessity to dual boot. Oh... and it's free!
I hope that helps a little.
EDIT:
Something I forgot to mention in the first instance is that you have to make sure that your graphics and sound systems are set up correctly before installing games into your virtual XP, otherwise they won't find the resources they're looking for.  I found a lot of help here... http://forums.virtualbox.org 
Now I'm going back to getting beaten up by Wargs.  
 
 


I have to say Cedga is the way to go, if the game doesn't work and you tell the developers then usually by the next release of Cedega the game will work.

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  Gonesolo

City of Heroes Correspondent

Joined: 11/15/07
Posts: 67

6/08/09 5:51:50 AM#76

I use Cedega, WINE/Crossover Games, Virtuabox/VMware on my linux box.

Although I at first thought Cedega was really good, of recent I'm not so sure.

Many of the original issues I have with games are still there. Numerous games that will not even install with Cedega install and run fine with Crossover/WINE.

Still I suport any company trying to make gaming easier on Linux so I'm keeping my Cedega Sub open.

  lordbat

Novice Member

Joined: 1/04/06
Posts: 6

6/15/09 3:16:59 AM#77

 lol linux is big! but we want a really good friend interface for doomies!

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  vatzcar

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Joined: 8/15/09
Posts: 22

Don't act smart, be smart!

8/16/09 10:45:14 AM#78
Originally posted by Andir

Um, I'd agree with you that ported games will run slower... 30%?  doubt it.  Native games could actually run faster.  Some Wine games actually run faster.  I don't know where you get your information from, but I'd suggest looking elsewhere.

 

I doubt it too. Wine is actually just an application layer which translates the machine code from Windows platform to host platform. So, logically there shouldn't be 30% performance drop. And truly in some cases you may get better performance with wine (as there not many irrelevant dependencies are running behind).

I guess still it's a long time to see most of the games are ported for Linux natively. Currently Linux is used in production environment where entertainment is much less prioritarized than stability, security and other productivity issues. Also (I don't know why) OpenGL is not promoted as hard as it should be, so the graphics issue is always there with non-windows platforms. And probably the most important reason is, *nix platform is not a good playground for copy-paste coders :-), and I guess that's why most of the coders lean toward windows (remember millions of crappy software made with VB). Linux never took steps to move into home users segment, where entertainment is the most important part on top of everything (even those people who work on their home computer and want to play game sometimes).

Let it be Linux or Mac gaming has never taken as seriously as it has taken on windows (probably the market share moved windows in that direction). There's also option for virtualization, but still you won't get the reasonable performance. All the virtualization software that exist today just try to emulate VGA adapter with 3D graphics but they're not up-to-the-mark. If your game uses high-end shaders and you have a latest graphics card (physical) still you can't use the potential of that card with virtualization. So to have gaming experience to full extent you have no other choice than windows for computers and/or gaming console. And for good working platform, windows can never beat Linux/Mac. Atleast my personal experience says so.

 

P.S. sorry for going a bit off-topic and not providing game list for linux.

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  GoldenDog

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Joined: 2/24/06
Posts: 580

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8/25/09 9:38:30 AM#79

I'm just now joining the ranks of the linux army.  I downloaded up a copy of Fedora, but was wondering if there was a better linux OS for gaming purposes.

 

My laptop is too old to be used as a windows gaming box, but I thought if I put linux on it, it might have more free resources?  Does this make any sense?  Using a GUI like Gnome will allow more performance to be available for games?  

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  Jimmy_Scythe

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Joined: 12/31/04
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8/28/09 8:23:59 AM#80
Originally posted by GoldenDog

I'm just now joining the ranks of the linux army.  I downloaded up a copy of Fedora, but was wondering if there was a better linux OS for gaming purposes.

 

My laptop is too old to be used as a windows gaming box, but I thought if I put linux on it, it might have more free resources?  Does this make any sense?  Using a GUI like Gnome will allow more performance to be available for games?  

 

I personally dig Linux Mint since it comes with most of the restricted extras right out of the box. As far as desktops go, smaller is better if you want raw speed. The most useable lightweight Linux desktop available right now is Xfce.

I also understand that there is a gamer's edition of Ubuntu floating around that contains large number of open source native Linux games. It all depends on what kinds of games you're planning on running. If you're primarily running Windows games, then you should probably just run Windows. If you want to know what will run under Wine, check out the App Database.

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