WAR (Warhammer Online)

I agree that this is beating a dead horse.  I just wanted to express my support for Kyleran's idea that pvp should have consequences. ;P  Some people just have WAY too much attachment to their stuff.  It's like a bunch of little Gollums running around concerned about their preeeeeecious.  Obviously, there should be some sort of insurance system for those overly concerned about their stuff.  And those willing to take the risk should have the opportunity to get more valuable stuff.

IM back! anyone missed me?

My "other job" blocked all outside access so I have been pretty much out of viceo gaming and news for the last month, but i am back now and ready to cover mmo's like I was born to do!

So far from what I have played at conventions, I feel that the game dosent have a wow feel to it because of the engine. You have too much strategy that goes into the normal fight to make it anywhere close to wow. Its very complicated when you put the two combat systems together... let me show you

Warrior in wow pretty much uses ONE attack. Mortal strike/ Blood thirst you have the option to use heroic strike but its not very widely used. in theory you could run around and use nothing but 1 attack button and be a very effective fighter.

In war we will take black ock. Every time you block pary or evade you have seperate counter attacks you can make that start combo chains to other debuff attacks. Every offensive attack you make chains to another line of combos that create other debuffs on your enemy. so you can swing your clevar and get 2 good hits, then use your build up points to either backhand slap someone with your shield to slow their attacks or kick them in the groin to stun them.... from using the back hand you can then knock down your opponent or you can do a strong attack for lots of damage and start over... but if you knock them down you have the option of stomping on them with your boots for a major debuff and damage or driving your sword home for a finishing blow. (which at one point I thought was an elbow drop but I dunno what happened to it) but you can see the style of the black ork and how many choices you have to make during the fight. thats just offensive.... the defensive and protection choices you have to make are also just as vast because this is a defensive fighter. you CAN NOT run around and spam one button and be effective. I tried it just so I could come back here and say it.

I need to start trying to make preperations to cover the ny comicon this year, I will have tons more info when I go in april, but for now its just reading and reporting what I find out to you guys.

Hasani

on the topic of pvp having a concequence..... its all about pride. in some games dying dosent harm you but in daoc as I recall when you lose a fight you actually got very upset and you didnt want to give up points.

Not only were you fighting for your realm, you were also fighting for your team/guilds score which was posted each week on the website. That made the game WAAAY more competitive than other modern mmo's by that fact alone.

everyone wanted to be number 1

On the death side to add: in some cases (like City seiging) 'death' actally takes you out of the fight all to together, in those cases it's not 'oh I died, I'll run back in' it's the 'oh %^&^ I died, game over for me'.... Even tho theres no meaningless debuff (yes I said meaningless as no current death debuff as yet to stop me from fighting), the points rewarded to the other facton for teir control, plus the time it keeps you out of the fight thas IF it lets you back in the fight at all, I feel is enough.

Originally posted by Shifty360

Oh how I miss DAoC, and how I can't wait to experience the RvR in Warhammer.

You're bringing back old memories Ogrelin.

Yeah!

www.youtube.com/watch

Originally posted by osiriss

 

Originally posted by Shifty360

Oh how I miss DAoC, and how I can't wait to experience the RvR in Warhammer.

You're bringing back old memories Ogrelin.

Yeah!

 

www.youtube.com/watch

lol this ones just gonna go down the same shitter and hopefully they'll learn their lesson that they can't create mmorpgs and EA will ditch em and put their own staff on WAR and then NGE it.

Originally posted by terrorantula

 

Originally posted by osiriss

 

Originally posted by Shifty360

Oh how I miss DAoC, and how I can't wait to experience the RvR in Warhammer.

You're bringing back old memories Ogrelin.

Yeah!

 

www.youtube.com/watch

DAOC failed and has hardly anyone playing because noone likes it.... so what does Mythic do? Create a clone of a failed format. Greattttttttttttttttttttttt.

 

lol this ones just gonna go down the same shitter and hopefully they'll learn their lesson that they can't create mmorpgs and EA will ditch em and put their own staff on WAR and then NGE it.

I wonder how DAOC failed like you say, it's still alive, kicking and fun even after the years, if you compare it to all the crap released this past 3 years it's still the best pvp oriented game. Just yesterday we were like 50 hibs taking mids keeps and more than 50 mids defending, while albs where attacking on the other side of the map on the classic server... so much for dead.

You not trying it, or liking it doesnt make it a failure, just go spam you favorite WoW forum, you will probably be one of those guys who bash and then will be the first to play it.

Originally posted by naldric

 

Originally posted by terrorantula

 

Originally posted by osiriss

 

Originally posted by Shifty360

Oh how I miss DAoC, and how I can't wait to experience the RvR in Warhammer.

You're bringing back old memories Ogrelin.

Yeah!

 

www.youtube.com/watch

DAOC failed and has hardly anyone playing because noone likes it.... so what does Mythic do? Create a clone of a failed format. Greattttttttttttttttttttttt.

 

lol this ones just gonna go down the same shitter and hopefully they'll learn their lesson that they can't create mmorpgs and EA will ditch em and put their own staff on WAR and then NGE it.

I wonder how DAOC failed like you say, it's still alive, kicking and fun even after the years, if you compare it to all the crap released this past 3 years it's still the best pvp oriented game.

 

You not trying it, or liking it doesnt make it a failure, just go spam you favorite WoW forum, you will probably be one of those guys who bash and then will be the first to play it.

Corse i'll play it to see if it's good but from what i've seen it looks like Mythic screwed up Warhammer, i mean why couldn't they just use a new engine not a 8 year old one. Also DAOC did fail cause everyone quit it cus it sucks and i saw why with the bad controls that arn't fluid and a horrible UI and everywhere was empty and zoned..... doesn't come close to the seemless user friendly explerience of WOW which was sooo much better polished at release than DAOC even like 7 years today.

Best PVP? People say that but i found it rather boring and unbalanced and just really lame. The combat in the game is sooo bad and it suffers from bad spell effects and combat animations and everyones standing still like in these WAR videos we've seen which makes me believe it's going to  just be DAOC2.

Saddens me to even say it but WOW has the best PVP around atm and obviously the 10 million people playing it think so too, but oh look at DAOC sub base which is probably around 100-200k max.

lol.

Someone who use WoW and best pvp in the same sentence just loose credibility, from what you said you didnt play DAoC and its game engine isnt the same it's an upgraded engine from DAoC.... you are like saying the Unreal engine is the same as the U3 engine.... like i said go play wow and keep us out of your uninformed posts.