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summitus  1/23/08 7:40:28 AM

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Maybe just maybe if you guys all resubbed and SOe knew about it then you guys could change things from within,and if SOE saw you all coming back then maybe they would relent and start to put things right.

I know you'll all probably say never in a million years , but hey you know sometimes in an arguement one side or the other  make the first move.

Perhaps SOE need some sort of indication that it will be worthwhile putting the game back the way it was, I was around pre NGE and was only a casual player, but they are trying with every update to make things right and they have conceded they screwed up. So perhaps a little give and take maybe if they saw everyone coming back then change from within could be a distinct possibility .

and please dont flame me its just an idea

 
Daedalus732  1/23/08 7:56:06 AM

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I'm guessing you don't know the history behind the NGE and why most of the vets left.

The SWG developers actually came out and said on the forums that they didn't want the older vets to hang around, and they they were trying to hit a new audience of players.

And they've already said that they will never change the NGE system, so there's no point.

So change just isn't going to happen. And we all know it.

 
iwantmyswg  1/23/08 8:04:01 AM

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we have told the devs that we will only come back if they bring in classic servers or do a rollback to the pre-cu game. we do not like the nge. we do not want to play the nge.

 
Kyleran  1/23/08 8:05:10 AM

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It is all vaporware until I see it go live!

Won't work, SOE would just interpret it as people finally accepting the NGE changes, and wouldn't listen to requests for rollback.

 

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daarco  1/23/08 8:10:37 AM

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Originally posted by Daedalus732

I'm guessing you don't know the history behind the NGE and why most of the vets left.

The SWG developers actually came out and said on the forums that they didn't want the older vets to hang around, and they they were trying to hit a new audience of players.

And they've already said that they will never change the NGE system, so there's no point.

So change just isn't going to happen. And we all know it.

I realy want to play SWH again, but this is the reason why i wont do it.

EDIT: I have resubed two times to play the NGE......it doesnt work for me : (

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Wickersham  1/23/08 8:13:46 AM

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You want me to pay them my money on the idea that maybe the game will get better at some point in the future?

Isn't that the SWG motto?

 
Linna  1/23/08 8:15:53 AM

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Those who do not know their history, are bound to step in it.

Originally posted by summitus

Maybe just maybe if you guys all resubbed and SOe knew about it then you guys could change things from within,and if SOE saw you all coming back then maybe they would relent and start to put things right.

I know you'll all probably say never in a million years , but hey you know sometimes in an arguement one side or the other  make the first move.

Perhaps SOE need some sort of indication that it will be worthwhile putting the game back the way it was, I was around pre NGE and was only a casual player, but they are trying with every update to make things right and they have conceded they screwed up. So perhaps a little give and take maybe if they saw everyone coming back then change from within could be a distinct possibility .

and please dont flame me its just an idea

We tried petitions (with HUGE numbers of signatures), we tried logical arguments, we tried suggesting alternatives, we had complete BOOKS of changes we all agreed upon that could improve the game without such radical changes. Two-and-a-half years worth of them. They never listened. Their communications to the playerbase before and after clearly indicates they didn't and do not take us seriously. Why should I go play a game that is completely different from the game I bought in 2003, and that I don't enjoy, just so I can run my head into that wall again?

Linna

 
Darth_Pete  1/23/08 8:17:01 AM

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Originally posted by Wickersham

You want me to pay them my money on the idea that maybe the game will get better at some point in the future?

Isn't that the SWG motto?

I was just wondering the same thing.. SOE would just laugh and roll on the pile of money and not upgrade/fix the game any faster than now.

 
Suvroc  1/23/08 8:22:03 AM

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SOE has proven to me, through SWG, that the potential customer is more valuble to them then their current subscribers.

As proof I'll point out to you that both Beast Master and expertese were attempts to bring back past subscribers, and not really for the benefit of the current playerbase.

Even on the official forums we see talk of how SOE is bringing back elements of the past. Why would they do this if they already have your sunscription and your money?

 
salvaje  1/23/08 8:22:25 AM

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Already tried that, and failed.  Why do you think I stayed around as long as I did, attended the summits, etc?

They wouldn't listen.

SOE never has had an honest open meeting with the players, they always set preconditions that prevent any reasonable compromise from being reached.

 

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Prime8  1/23/08 8:22:26 AM

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