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  StarDagger

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1/22/08 5:44:25 AM#41

Greetings Humans,

 

It has come to my attention that further Federation propaganda attempts under the title "Star Trek Online" have ceased.

It is the hope of the Romulan Star Empire that any future simulations, considered or actual, include the Rihannsu (romulan) people.  It is plainly obvious that our agents in the early 21st century have put an end to this propaganda plot, any future developers should also be forewarned.

This is a time for celebration, that the ongoing propaganda vehicle known as "Star Trek" has been stopped from excluding not only the Rihannsu people, but the followers of Kahless as well.  We consider any attempts to simulate the intricate politics of the Alpha/Beta quadrants without its most vital members to be, at best, foolhardy.

Now is the time to take stock of what makes "Star Trek" so compelling and to make sure that is contained in any possible future sim or "mmo".  An earlier comment was made as to the death of "Star Trek".  I daresay that in an era in Earth's history where people trade security for freedom and the rise of fascism, it is difficult for a story of hope like Star Trek to thrive.  All the more reason to keep it alive, in its FULL and COMPLETE form.

It is obvious from Perpetual's business practices that they lacked Mnhei'sahe, so I, for one, will not lament their passing. 

For the Rihannsu People, Jolan'tru and Mnhei'sahe

Star*Dagger, khre'Riov, Ambassador Plenipotentiary

  nakuma

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1/22/08 8:08:12 AM#42
Originally posted by eric_w66

Heh... did the devs move to a 3rd company already? ;) Trying to escape the line of fire of lawsuits headed their way .

I just wish a "real" studio would get the IP and make STO something special. Need some rich nerd out there in the world to fund a studio with 100 million bucks and 5 years... Bill Gates? You like Star Trek?


I Agree wholeheartedly. we need a "real" studio with major clout, talent base, and reputation to bring this ONline game too life. So many people want this game to work, trekkies and non trekkies looking for something different. unfortunately we wont be seeing anyting for atleast another year or more if at all.

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  archisis

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1/22/08 1:39:21 PM#43
Originally posted by mackdawg19
Originally posted by Celestian

Thank Gawd, I didn't want Perpetual to have anything to do with that game after Gods and Heroes mess and then the direction they took with STO.


What mess? Oh you mean the mess were they actually had the balls to drop a game before making you guys pay 50 bucks for crap. Im not really a big P2 supporter anymore because apparently they have issues, but that doesnt mean what they did with GnH wasn't the right thing. I guess you would of rather it see the light of day and waste money on a faulty product like certain other games. GnH had the chance to be good, but it ran out of time and money to develop a product. I have yet to play a game were mobs can actually kick your ass and do special abilitys. Yes the combat was buggy, but if polished would of changed the way people play mmo's combat wise. Pretty sure STO would of ended up the same way. Either way goodluck to whatever company is getting this. My bet is on Cryptic Studios or UbiSoft.


As soon as I found out they laid ppl off who were employed for GnH, I ran to the store and got my money back for the pre-order. I knew they were going to cancel development. :D

  DELLsFan

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1/27/08 2:26:25 PM#44

<<Perpetual will go down in history as the worst MMO company ever.>>

No, I think Sigil still takes first place.    

 

 

  BuzWeaver

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1/27/08 2:57:58 PM#45

That's unfortunate, but I can't say that I'm surprised.


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  HYPERI0N

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1/27/08 3:51:13 PM#46

Originally posted by StarDagger

Greetings Humans,

 

It has come to my attention that further Federation propaganda attempts under the title "Star Trek Online" have ceased.

It is the hope of the Romulan Star Empire that any future simulations, considered or actual, include the Rihannsu (romulan) people.  It is plainly obvious that our agents in the early 21st century have put an end to this propaganda plot, any future developers should also be forewarned.

This is a time for celebration, that the ongoing propaganda vehicle known as "Star Trek" has been stopped from excluding not only the Rihannsu people, but the followers of Kahless as well.  We consider any attempts to simulate the intricate politics of the Alpha/Beta quadrants without its most vital members to be, at best, foolhardy.

Now is the time to take stock of what makes "Star Trek" so compelling and to make sure that is contained in any possible future sim or "mmo".  An earlier comment was made as to the death of "Star Trek".  I daresay that in an era in Earth's history where people trade security for freedom and the rise of fascism, it is difficult for a story of hope like Star Trek to thrive.  All the more reason to keep it alive, in its FULL and COMPLETE form.

It is obvious from Perpetual's business practices that they lacked Mnhei'sahe, so I, for one, will not lament their passing. 

For the Rihannsu People, Jolan'tru and Mnhei'sahe

Star*Dagger, khre'Riov, Ambassador Plenipotentiary

OOKKKAAAYYYYY    

 

Seriously tho its probably just as well this game has died. I mean just look at its roleplayers would YOU want to play with people who roleplayed like that?

 

 

Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981

  kamenlwo

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1/28/08 12:06:57 AM#47

I just wish a "real" studio would get the IP and make STO something special. Need some rich nerd out there in the world to fund a studio with 100 million bucks and 5 years... Bill Gates? You like Star Trek?

  User Deleted
2/05/08 7:10:35 AM#48

I want to see a Star Trek MMORPG to come out within the next five years. I think that would be really cool. I think Cryptic would be a good candidate for the Star Trek Online project, as would Blizzard.  If Cryptic Studios got this project, they would probably become even more famous. They created the first superhero and supervillain MMORPG, and they are currently working on a Marvel Universe MMORPG. If they were to get a Star Trek MMORPG project, they might become bigger than Blizzard, but I don't know... Blizzard is pretty big. But anyways, if either one of them got that MMORPG, I'm sure they would bring it out to it's full potential.

  StarDagger

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3/20/08 5:43:08 PM#49

Trust me when I say that the last thing you want to see is a massively popular Star Trek game.

 

Yours in Niche Plasma,

Star*Dagger

  User Deleted
3/20/08 5:52:33 PM#50

okay... i dont want to sound critical or mean, but... how the hell do you know what i want? yes, i do want to see a star trek massively multiplayer online game. wanna know why? ive always dreamed of commanding my own starship and because america and the rest of the planet wont get there shit straight and decide to put all their money towards battles and war and fighting and shit... i dont see that kind of technology coming out for at least another 50 or 60 years and by that time... ill probably be dead. the only way i can fulfill a dream like that is behind the world of virtual reality and video gaming and stuff like that... and my want is to see a star trek or some other mmorpg like star trek to come out.

  InAngus

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3/21/08 2:25:37 AM#51

Not unexpected news. Hopefully whoever gets STO actually does it justice.

breathing...

  User Deleted
3/21/08 8:38:04 AM#52

If it's Cryptic Studios or Blizzard, I'm sure they will do it justice. I can't vouche for many more than that.

  StarDagger

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3/21/08 9:47:20 AM#53

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  StarDagger

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3/21/08 9:48:12 AM#54

Originally posted by PunisherX

okay... i dont want to sound critical or mean, but... how the hell do you know what i want? yes, i do want to see a star trek massively multiplayer online game. wanna know why? ive always dreamed of commanding my own starship and because america and the rest of the planet wont get there shit straight and decide to put all their money towards battles and war and fighting and shit... i dont see that kind of technology coming out for at least another 50 or 60 years and by that time... ill probably be dead. the only way i can fulfill a dream like that is behind the world of virtual reality and video gaming and stuff like that... and my want is to see a star trek or some other mmorpg like star trek to come out.

Re-read what I wrote.

 

S*D

  Tordak

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3/21/08 10:14:39 AM#55

Hi all,

  There "may" be something to a rumor that cryptic isn't the ones who picked up the STO Ip, afterall.

Bethesda has created and online/hosting division at the end of summer/start of spring 2007.   As of 2weeks ago, 'Bethesda online' has still been hiring in many key positions for MMO development and hosting.

They already have many single player games in the works with the ST Ip and aren't new to the ST Ip either, if I recall corectly. 

 It just might be that STO is there break into the MMO market. ../shrug

 

P.S.-   Ahem,  Dearest STO Gods - .,.Please bring in playable characters and get on the launch of this bad boy, already.  ...I'zz wanna be Star Fleet 'nigh Star Fleet Hardware whilst snackin' on teh space doritos.(ships only, lol, might as well be Mr. Tri-corder)

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  User Deleted
3/21/08 5:19:23 PM#56

i dont know why you wouldnt... i think star trek needs to make a comeback. but with the problems that their current holder has caused (the star trek owners not the game developers) they will have a long way to go... the work may be hard, but well worth it

  StarDagger

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3/21/08 6:55:40 PM#57

Originally posted by PunisherX

i dont know why you wouldnt... i think star trek needs to make a comeback. but with the problems that their current holder has caused (the star trek owners not the game developers) they will have a long way to go... the work may be hard, but well worth it

Greetings,

 

There are few people who want a Star Trek MMO more than I.  I have been looking forward to getting back into the ST universe since the end of Starfleet Command 3, which is a while ago.

My point, which you seemed to have missed, is that I hope the game is a hardcore sim with Romulan, Klingon and Federation playable characters and ships.

For example, EVE is a highly successful, but not highly popular hard-core sci-fi game.  I would much rather have 200,000 ppl playing a very complex Star Trek sim than 3 million playing some Star Trek flavored™ piece of space garbage.

I have seen what Star Trek Flavored™ games look like.  Legacy, a thousand curses upon Maddoc software.  It is not pretty.

So my vote is for a FULLY realized Star Trek universe, with cloaking pain in the ass Romulans (thats me!) Brutal Klingons and Federation Boy Scouts.

 

Yours in Accurate Sim Plasma,

Star*Dagger

  User Deleted
3/21/08 10:30:56 PM#58

im sorry i missed your point... i do understand where you're coming from, but why cant there be a mix... a popular star trek game that stays hardcore and true to the star trek series... instead of some 'star trek flavored game' as you so efficiently put it

  User Deleted
3/22/08 12:47:11 AM#59

Originally posted by Tordak

Hi all,

  There "may" be something to a rumor that cryptic isn't the ones who picked up the STO Ip, afterall.

Bethesda has created and online/hosting division at the end of summer/start of spring 2007.   As of 2weeks ago, 'Bethesda online' has still been hiring in many key positions for MMO development and hosting.

They already have many single player games in the works with the ST Ip and aren't new to the ST Ip either, if I recall corectly. 

 It just might be that STO is there break into the MMO market. ../shrug

 

P.S.-   Ahem,  Dearest STO Gods - .,.Please bring in playable characters and get on the launch of this bad boy, already.  ...I'zz wanna be Star Fleet 'nigh Star Fleet Hardware whilst snackin' on teh space doritos.(ships only, lol, might as well be Mr. Tri-corder)

Bethesda has been getting ready for an mmo long before PE/P2 lost the license to Star Trek. Bethesda could be getting ready to do Fallout Online, since the property is theirs and the license they gave Interplay to make the mmo has not shown any fruition. Their contract with Interplay gave Interplay a finite amount of time ( 2 years, I believe ) from the time Bethesda  bought the rights to Fallout and licensed Interplay for the mmo to get the money and get the game in development, or the license reverted to Bethesda.

Interplays time is just about up, and no mmo in development. So I'm thinking Bethesda knows their going to be the ones making the mmo, not Interplay ( and thank God for small favors, as Interplay sucks big time ).

Bethesda also has the option of making an Elder Scrolls mmo, which has been asked for repeatedly by Bethesda fans and would be alot easier to make ( since they obviously know everything about the Elder Scrolls lore ) and less of a pain as far as giving Star Trek fans what they want as well as attract non-Star Trek fans to the game also.

So, in my humble opinion, Bethesda is not, and will not, be the Star Trek mmo devs.

  StarDagger

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3/22/08 7:46:08 AM#60

Originally posted by PunisherX

im sorry i missed your point... i do understand where you're coming from, but why cant there be a mix... a popular star trek game that stays hardcore and true to the star trek series... instead of some 'star trek flavored game' as you so efficiently put it

It would be nice to have a scaling level of difficulty, or even better a bifurcated system, one for casual players and one for advanced.  I doubt many people would like the implications of a bifurcated system.

There is also the question of the cleverness of the programmers to come up with such a system.

I only hope that they are reading our posts and realize what a fatal mistake making Star Trek a sort of WoW in space would be.

 

Yours in Unremitting Complexity,

Star*Dagger

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