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  User Deleted
1/14/08 8:58:36 PM#21

Okay, I've never played a game created by this 'P2 Entertainment', so I have no idea how good they are, but just because they can't make good MMO's doesn't mean they can't make good video games. MMO's are the most complicated forms of video games. It's too bad, I was really hoping for Star Trek Online to come out or at least have a beta-testing in 2008. As to who will get it next, I hope it is someone who has already created a great MMO and succeeded; like Blizzard or Cryptic, etc.. Sorry if there are more, but those are the only two I know of. I heard that Blizzard was looking for a new MMO to develop now that WoW is one of the most highly played MMO's. I'm sure whoever will get it next will do it justice.

Here, I got an idea, give it to a bunch of Star Trek fans and nerds and they can make the game.

  Dabruuzer

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1/14/08 10:04:28 PM#22

Well, the folks over at www.trekmovie.com are reporting that some of the dev ream are being interviewd by Cryptic Studios. No confirmation that they are taking over the project though - they make that quite clear. Well, they make it quite clear that they aren't making anything quite clear for the moment. LOL

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  Amathe

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1/14/08 10:20:03 PM#23

To the now unemployed Dev who said this game is not for trekies ... adios!

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  Cpt.Stubbing

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1/14/08 11:10:22 PM#24

At least we know something now. I also hope they give it to someone who can do something with this. I didn't wanna say it before but I really didn't like the direction the game had taken (story wise). I hope whoever has it now goes with the original stuff we all heard like Guild-Run starships and so forth.

Does anyone else feel like they just passed a golf ball sized gall-stone after hearing this, or is it just me?

 

  Iijs

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1/14/08 11:17:39 PM#25

Good news! Now we might actually see a Star Trek MMO in 2013-14.

Good thing there's a couple other good games coming our way... it's going to be a long five-plus year wait.

  ivan50265

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1/14/08 11:26:49 PM#26

This oddly reminds me of Middle Earth Online.  I hope the opposite happens and that a company tries to do the license justice, but either way we're in for a long wait.

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  airborne519

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1/15/08 12:20:50 AM#27

This is definately a good move, unless, and here's the caveat.. $OE takes it over...

  eric_w66

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1/15/08 1:16:07 AM#28

SOE could do a good job with it. SW:G was a Raph Koster/LucasArts mess up, not SOE.

Learn your lesson BioWare! "Let not the LucasArts have say, or regret it you will".

  User Deleted
1/15/08 1:20:05 AM#29
Originally posted by Dabruuzer

Well, the folks over at www.trekmovie.com are reporting that some of the dev ream are being interviewd by Cryptic Studios. No confirmation that they are taking over the project though - they make that quite clear. Well, they make it quite clear that they aren't making anything quite clear for the moment. LOL


I could see Cryptic doing STO. While I've never played any of their games, I've heard good things about their "City of Heroes/City of Villans" games. It's got to be a better direction than P2 or SOE.

  gamerman98

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1/15/08 6:58:31 AM#30

hahahaha take that STO fan site...sorry i just get excited when I get to say i told u so (along with a bunch of other ppl who seen this coming)

  Vevi

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1/15/08 7:27:17 AM#31

I hope Cryptic gets it.

  JYCowboy

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1/15/08 7:35:51 AM#32
Originally posted by thepatriot
Originally posted by JYCowboy

Great to hear this.

This means STO can get back on the road without being tied up for 10 years.  Like others, lets hope Paramount/CBS have found good people to push forward with development.


This doesn't neccesarily mean anything of the sort.  As someone else posted this could be an attempt by P2 to move the asset beyond the reach of creditors.  It could have gone to some other second rate developer.  I know you want to blame Perpetual but the reality is that the liscense holder hasn't exactly been a good steward of it and the blame should lie ultimately with them, not the developers.  The liscense holder can dictate the terms of any agreement and guide the development.  We still don't know if they have learned their lesson yet or if they have any clue what to do with it.


Don't worry, my optimisim is in check.  I have never trusted Paramount to properly care for thier franchise.  There have been too many bad Star Trek products to give them the benefit of the doubt.  I would hope with recent changes that normal trends would lost.

  fansede

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1/15/08 7:46:16 AM#33

Ok Curt Schilling and Salvatore. Jump on this news ASAP.

  Oculitus

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1/15/08 7:57:36 AM#34

Apparently the Gaming Gods were listening. 

  Guintu

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1/15/08 1:46:12 PM#35

I could see this  going 2 different ways.

1) The powers that be behind Star Trek (Paramount Studios) wants a game so they hire P2 and as things go on Paramount says "we should make this game more for the masses, this way we'll get more people to play", P2 and them start talking about what to add into the game and what to take out and maybe P2 said "we can't do this, we have to make this game properly or no Star Trek fans will play it", and Paramount maybe didn't care, they just wanted the money.  Since P2 signed a NDA (non-disclosure agreement) they have to keep their mouths shut, and it looks like its their fault.

Or

2) P2 Suggests to Paramount that they make the game more mainstream for everyone and start talking about what to add and what not to and Paramount can't handle it so they fire them.

I guess we'll never know what happened and as long as a good game is made I don't really care.  Cryptic may be a good company to make it as long as they don't make the whole game instance.  I can see the space area being open for everyone, you can send a distress signal if you come into trouble.  I would like to see no guilds, everyone who's federation works together, everyone who's klingon works together (there can be some allies with federation and other races, and there of course will be other races within the federation).  But guilds would make everything seem less Star Trek.  If you're in a battle and need help any federation ship in the area should be able to come and help you, and get credit for helping you.  In other words I guess you can say there would be a loose guild system, but anyone in the federation or allied with the federation is one big guild and so on with other races.  I can see maybe planet missions being instances, but that may even be kind of strange because you wouldn't be able to call for help if you need it.  You should be able to orbit a planet, beam down, do your objectives, emergency beam up if you have trouble (and there isn't something keeping you from beaming up), you should be able to call for help if you need it and anyone that can help should if they want.  If your with a team and one person dies in battle they shouldn't be able to beam back down and help, the rest of the team should finish it without you, and you shouldn't get any more experience for it because you died.  If everyone dies then you have to start the mission over.  Those are just preliminary ideas.

 

I really hope its a good game, I've been looking forward to STO and Stargate Worlds for a long time.  We need more good Sci-fi MMO's.

  Vaden

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1/15/08 1:58:42 PM#36

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  Vaden

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1/15/08 2:03:45 PM#37

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  Vaden

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1/15/08 2:17:40 PM#38
Originally posted by Guintu

I could see this  going 2 different ways.

1) The powers that be behind Star Trek (Paramount Studios) wants a game so they hire P2 and as things go on Paramount says "we should make this game more for the masses, this way we'll get more people to play", P2 and them start talking about what to add into the game and what to take out and maybe P2 said "we can't do this, we have to make this game properly or no Star Trek fans will play it", and Paramount maybe didn't care, they just wanted the money.  Since P2 signed a NDA (non-disclosure agreement) they have to keep their mouths shut, and it looks like its their fault.


I wouldnt be shocked if that happens alot.. the way some games just kome out garbage with alot empty promises never met.

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  User Deleted
1/15/08 4:51:44 PM#39

Although I don't completely trust Paramount to take care of the product that Gene Roddenberry gave them, I do trust that Cryptic Studios will do a great job with STO and bring it out to it's full potential.

  Hardas

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1/22/08 12:35:39 AM#40

At least one solid IP saved from possible ruin by the crappy clutches of Perpetual or P2 or whatever they call themselves theese days.

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