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OP  10/22/07 10:31:29 AM#1

Michael Fiegel, a former writer and content designer for Perpetual Entertainment's Gods & Heroes, pens this article from a developer's perspective, about the indefinite hold that has been put on the game and his own reactions to it.

You will never meet the young lady in the sewers. You will never discover why she's down there, or what she's looking for, or how that involves a disembodied spirit with a short temper.

You will never meet the man who -- mimicking a myth he had once heard -- tied his infant daughter to a spear and hurled her into a river, assuming the gods would save her. You will never learn if he was right.

You will never meet the daughter of the goddess of vengeance. You will never hear her warning about the weather, never hear her funny quips and wry observations. You will never learn where the West Wind went.

The reason you will never meet these people is that the game they were a part of, Gods & Heroes: Rome Rising, was put on "indefinite hold" on October 9. For six months prior to that date, I was a writer and content designer for the game, and the individuals mentioned above were but a few of the hundreds of personalities, quests and stories I created during that time, alongside a team of other writers, implementors and designers.

Read the whole article here.

Jon Wood
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10/22/07 10:48:13 AM#2



Perhaps you could consider writting a paperback novel using some of the themes you've been using over these past many months.

The best of luck too you, on creating more new worlds and adventures.


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10/22/07 10:57:58 AM#3

It is a shame to see so much work "go to waste."  But such is the cycle of life...


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10/22/07 11:29:12 AM#4

I am very sad for you and annoyed, I know kinda what that must feel like. Try and get out of the whole they dug for you so you don't become more depressed. Best of Luck man.


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10/22/07 12:37:21 PM#5

Real shame about that, it would've made a great game.

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10/22/07 12:45:43 PM#6

Very eloquently put.  And for what it's worth, I appreciated all the effort you (and the others on the project) had put in.  Hope to see your work in another title soon.

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10/22/07 1:22:17 PM#7

The biggest industry tragedy is that it is so rare for the same company to employ good designers, good writers, AND good programmers.

From what I saw in beta, G&H had good writers, but the other two areas were either just mediocre or very severely lacking.  And I think that's a big part of why the project never saw fruition.  A shame.


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10/22/07 1:28:58 PM#8

I've beta'd or am in beta still on a good number of the games about to be released.  I only stopped logging into G&H for about a month or maybe it's been two, because I already figured out that I liked it and would get it upon release... I decided to concentrate my time and help on games that IMO still stunk.  G&H was good.  Not Great perhaps, but it was engaging, visually appealing, and the classes were interesting enough.  I actually thought this one looked good enough that it would make it on cruise control.

Frankly, I think G&H was better then every single other beta I have been in over the last year.  Noted exception is AoC still hasn't sent me an invite!  (What's up with that??).  Anyways, if this game doesn't get picked up by someone else I'll be surprised.  Give it another shot of inspiration by a new team and it will definitely shine on release day.

I liked Gods and Heroes.


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10/22/07 1:36:56 PM#9

The real shame as I see it is the black mark on Perpetual's record.  The ambiguous wording, and hush-hush attitude surrounding the 'out of left field' shelving of the game really makes it hard for me to have much faith in their Star Trek game.  

Just a few days before they announced the game being 'on hold',  they were still in full on PR mode.  The game's launch certainly appeared to be right around the corner.  Every other day there was some new info about the game, screenshots and videos all over the top of the page here......  then poof.  No Gods and Heroes for you.


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10/22/07 1:39:03 PM#10

I was in the beta for Gods and Heroes too, and I really liked it. I wasn't expecting much - my attention was on WAR and AoC. But I stayed up all night the first time I played it, and for the next few weeks I had a lot of fun with Gods and Heroes. It had that 'life' and that reason to log in that some mmos lack. Walking around with your own mini army was great, and the quests were above average, especially the ones where you get new god powers. I hadn't intended to buy the game as soon as it was released, but after the beta I was looking forward to preordering the game. I was shocked when it got canned. I've beta tested a lot of games, and this one was near the top. Very polished and flushed out for a beta.


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10/22/07 1:51:30 PM#11

Thanks for writing that.  I'm saddened that I won't get to experience a game I was really looking forward to.


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10/22/07 2:35:40 PM#12

It is indeed sad. The feeling of lost comes with everything you spend time in doing only to lose it or have it cancled.  I've also bataed the game and thought it wasn't all they bad even though the graphic was not something i liked alot.

The quest were okay, i liked it more than i like doing quest. Life is a cruel mistress. She gives you hope and takes it away only to leave you with slightly more painful hope. I wish you the best! good luck.


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10/22/07 2:42:06 PM#13

well said.


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10/22/07 3:14:41 PM#14

Fair journies to you, Michael, on your next project, as I'm sure you'll be back into creating characters again soon.  I didn't know much about G&H, but I certainly appreciate your feelings of loss, from the other side of the coin.  Many of my favorite MMOs are now gone and with them, the wonderful characters I had created for myself.  No more Xixjen, the Gadget Girl of EnB.  No more Xixasaurus, Xixdoggie Dawg or XixTheFish from SWG.  No more gentle mutant Xix from Auto Assault.  No more cat-like Xixelle from Horizons.  All characters who'd become almost alive in my mind yet will never again live.

It's interesting that we can put so much of ourselves into what isn't real.  But we do.  Such is the power of the immagination.  In a small way, at their best, these virtual worlds and their trials and tribulations can teach us alot about ourselves and about how we handle many aspects of our own lives.  Every time you care about something, even something unreal, you give a little of yourself to the process.  So the loss is real, even if the world is not.

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10/22/07 3:40:37 PM#15

Thank you for your  feelings on the matter.


I think the big issue we as beta testers (and a gaming community) had was the way it was handled, the no warning, and for me..still taking pre-orders..even NOW you can still pre-order the game.

This is what I feel has gotten most of us in an uproar.


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10/22/07 4:43:27 PM#16

Too bad about G&H, I was looking for to it far more than I was STO.  Course I was also looking forward to Imperator too and Mythic shelved that once they got the WAR game going.

Oh well....


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10/22/07 6:18:50 PM#17
Originally posted by Hexxeity

The biggest industry tragedy is that it is so rare for the same company to employ good designers, good writers, AND good programmers.

From what I saw in beta, G&H had good writers, but the other two areas were either just mediocre or very severely lacking.  And I think that's a big part of why the project never saw fruition.  A shame.

I agree.  From what saw through testing, the writing was excellent.  I would have liked to have seen more of it.  Hopefully I will in future games.  Good luck to you in the future.


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10/22/07 6:37:09 PM#18

I played during the beta also. It is quite a shame, this game had such potential. I hope it comes back someday.


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10/22/07 6:45:06 PM#19
Originally posted by joeyboots

I played during the beta also. It is quite a shame, this game had such potential. I hope it comes back someday.

Man I totaly agree with you on that. I was so looking forward to playing a  non elf or hobbit  type game. 

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10/22/07 6:50:39 PM#20

My advice to the writer:

1.) You have talent. Don't waste it writing for quacks.

2.) Forget you ever worked for PE. Putting them on your resume will be very detrimental before too long.

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