Has anyone heard anything about a BF3?  Is it just an urban legend or myth? 

I have outright refused to purchase BF2142.  I own the rest of the Battlefield series, but when I found out about the EXTENSIVE hacking that was going on with BF2, and how the same exact hacks worked in 2142, I refused to invest further into the BF series.

Now, I expect some things to be hacked...  Allowing players to see through walls is a relatively easy one, and it's been done in plenty of games.  Ditto for changing colors on items.  But unlimited Arty drops, showing all enemies on the radar, allowing you to appear as a friendly to the other team, etc are simply too much.  EA/Dice needs to improve it's client/server design so that players cannot cheat so blatantly.

I used to enjoy Battlefield 2 a lot, and would probably enjoy 2142 as well...except Everbalance "banned" me.  Appearantly I fragged one of their employees a bit too much in a game.  I vaguely remember the session too, I got sniped and came back and hunted the sniper down.  Then I camped in a spot near where he'd been, lo&behold he came right back to the same area.  I took him out again and moved my position. heheh  He kept coming back to the same area!  I just kept killing him and moving spots each time.

The next day I go to log in and get the message that I was hardware banned for "cheating".  I fought with EB over for a while, asking them to show me the "proof" they had (they claimed to have screenshots and logs) but they said they were under no obligation to prove their claims and that was that..  I tried contacting EA about it and all they did was give me canned response about how it wasn't them who did it and I'd have to take up the issue with the company responsible. /rolleyes

That pretty much was my foray into the FPS world.  I discovered then that "the powers that be" are just a bunch of whiney sore-losers and that unless you somehow miraculously know who they are and avoid killing them, you'll run the risk of getting banned and having wasted your cash on the game.

I still hope for the day EA, and the other companies that use Everbalance, will come to the realization that they're abusing their powers and actually find a legitimate company to do it for them instead. /shrug

It is no coincidence that Jon used BF2142 as  a benchmark for the popular non-mmorp games out there.  BF2142's gameplay is really what sets this game apart from the rest of the games in its genre.  I am glad that is finally getting its recognition as one of the trend setting games especially when it makes the rank on mmorpg.com.  One common gripe that seems to resonate throughout the BF2142 community is "I wish that BF2142 was a mmofps".  Well this is just a thought.  What if BF2142 had the same gameplay but , was at the scale of ,  lets say,   Planetside.   Well my friend you have yourself  a pretty good mmo ......IMO.

Originally posted by Destroyeron

 

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Battlefield 2142 = Battle field engine + Physics + Way less Players + Ideas and concepts from plantside.

Not to mention Planetside also had:

 

1.) Devs that refused to stop drilling their product into the ground with increasingly stupid patches and expansion packs

2.) Absolutely horrible FPS

3.) Just as awesome lag

Though I still loved that game in its hayday :( I woke up 3 hours before school to play it...

Individual opinions, and experience will vary.

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Originally posted by HunterAP
I have outright refused to purchase BF2142. I own the rest of the Battlefield series, but when I found out about the EXTENSIVE hacking that was going on with BF2, and how the same exact hacks worked in 2142, I refused to invest further into the BF series.
Now, I expect some things to be hacked... Allowing players to see through walls is a relatively easy one, and it's been done in plenty of games. Ditto for changing colors on items. But unlimited Arty drops, showing all enemies on the radar, allowing you to appear as a friendly to the other team, etc are simply too much. EA/Dice needs to improve it's client/server design so that players cannot cheat so blatantly.

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I totally agree with you about the hacks. Run into many players using them. Too bad that most who purchase them still suck with them. Those who create them, well...still suck with them. Aimbots are my biggest concern as all the others can be worked around.

Opponents using said aimbots only make me better. Look me up, My stats are pretty average, but I'm still in the top 12,000 (last I checked about a month ago, undoubtedly top 20,000 now as I haven't played in a bit). Akari Storm.

Just find a total team play server and get to know the regulars. Makes it easier to identify cheaters and kick them.

As far as the unlimited orbitals and Commander auto-kicks, those hacks are mainly used on random servers where there aren't any regulars.

Texas team players is a pretty good server and community made up of some of the best on the leader boards. A bunch of stand up guys, mostly military...mostly ingame Brigadiers.

Battlefield 2142 rocks! I love 64 player maps. It is quite addictive, and somewhat easy to get into. I'd say to anyone who hasn't tried it, try it, regardless of the things you've heard. I've been playing it since last year, still really fun to play. Down with PAC, up with EU!

Originally posted by HunterAP

I have outright refused to purchase BF2142.  I own the rest of the Battlefield series, but when I found out about the EXTENSIVE hacking that was going on with BF2, and how the same exact hacks worked in 2142, I refused to invest further into the BF series.

Now, I expect some things to be hacked...  Allowing players to see through walls is a relatively easy one, and it's been done in plenty of games.  Ditto for changing colors on items.  But unlimited Arty drops, showing all enemies on the radar, allowing you to appear as a friendly to the other team, etc are simply too much.  EA/Dice needs to improve it's client/server design so that players cannot cheat so blatantly.

Extensive hacking in BF2/2142? I believe you have been mislead sir...or are simply playing on the wrong servers.

Originally posted by Destroyeron

Originally posted by HunterAP

I have outright refused to purchase BF2142.  I own the rest of the Battlefield series, but when I found out about the EXTENSIVE hacking that was going on with BF2, and how the same exact hacks worked in 2142, I refused to invest further into the BF series.

Now, I expect some things to be hacked...  Allowing players to see through walls is a relatively easy one, and it's been done in plenty of games.  Ditto for changing colors on items.  But unlimited Arty drops, showing all enemies on the radar, allowing you to appear as a friendly to the other team, etc are simply too much.  EA/Dice needs to improve it's client/server design so that players cannot cheat so blatantly.

Extensive hacking in BF2/2142? I believe you have been mislead sir...or are simply playing on the wrong servers.

In any case, EA has the resources and capability to fix some of the hacking issues.  However, in the 2 years since BF2 was released, they have done NOTHING to address the issues.  This tells me that EA doesn't really care if people are cheating or not.  Thus, I don't care to give EA any more money.

Originally posted by Jsteiner

If I saw an ad that advertised a new mmo that was nothing but a black screen... kept the audience waiting for a couple seconds... and played the classic BF(1942/2/2142) music and ended

 I would explode with joy.

You have a bright future as an EA Producer.  

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Originally posted by HunterAP

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Originally posted by Destroyeron

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Originally posted by HunterAP

I have outright refused to purchase BF2142. I own the rest of the Battlefield series, but when I found out about the EXTENSIVE hacking that was going on with BF2, and how the same exact hacks worked in 2142, I refused to invest further into the BF series.
Now, I expect some things to be hacked... Allowing players to see through walls is a relatively easy one, and it's been done in plenty of games. Ditto for changing colors on items. But unlimited Arty drops, showing all enemies on the radar, allowing you to appear as a friendly to the other team, etc are simply too much. EA/Dice needs to improve it's client/server design so that players cannot cheat so blatantly.

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Extensive hacking in BF2/2142? I believe you have been mislead sir...or are simply playing on the wrong servers.

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It's entirely possible that I've been playing on the wrong servers. Someone else suggested the Texas clan servers. I'll give them a shot. But there is extensive hacking going on in BF2 and BF2142. Do a bit of research and you'll find an extensive community which supports the hacking of FPS games. However, there are far more hacks for the Battlefield games than for most other FPS's.
In any case, EA has the resources and capability to fix some of the hacking issues. However, in the 2 years since BF2 was released, they have done NOTHING to address the issues. This tells me that EA doesn't really care if people are cheating or not. Thus, I don't care to give EA any more money.

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Yeah, Fpscheats.com is one that I know just because of all the vids they have on youtube promoting their hacks and exploits. Once I saw the unlimited orbitals I did some research and boy let me tell you....there are hundreds of sites out there like this one.

Most of the hacks bypass punkbuster. And the one site I actually looked at had in their rulebook that they could find EA, Dice or punkbuster in violation of some sort of law if they created a fix for the hacks which is totally adsurd as hacks circumvent what was intended and is breaking their rules on/about ranked servers. Maybe in the European Union, not here. They are pulling your leg on that one.

And to the guy who said something about misled, either you were being sarcastic(ok, ha ha), or being for real. If you were being for real then obviously you don't play much and or don't know the game well enough to spot such hacks.

Obvious ones are: Permanent Commander kick (once you take commander your kicked with no vote), Unlimited orbitals, Squad kicks (kick squad members on opposite team), Become any player on the field name wise (two of one persons name running around, one is no doubt team killing purposely to get the real one kicked), Aimbots (real easy to identify especially if your the victim of the DUBIOUS ONE SHOT KILL WITH A PISTOL FROM A PERSON EXPLOITING THE ROOF).

Um, oh yeah.....bf2142 wall exploits will allow cheaters to get to the core room in titan mode without taking down coms 1,2,3 0r 4. That one is pretty old tho.

Not so obvious ones that bypass punkbuster because it gives punkbuster a clean screenshot are things like seeing through walls and reducing fog.

Many others...these are just a few.

I do however give EA/Dice some credit when it comes to shutting down ranked servers that are merely there for stat padding ie: knife only, Nades only. These servers don't last too long.

i for one have played all of Bf series since beginning, but didnt like Bf2142 so much. Titan mode was just kinda slammed on it and it didnt prove out to be as good as i hoped. Also whole game seemed more like an expansion pack to Bf2 instead of original game. Also had strange connection issues starting from Bf2 onwards, so that also threw me away from that. Was very thankfull that Red Orchestra came and that game has been really fun.

Now we have "similar" kind of team games coming like Quake Wars and Team Fortress 2. As far as beta testing them both, i will be surely buying them. Havent been this excited of fps games since Bf series first time came.

I think is sometimes real good just to relax  and take little break from Mmo games, since those can get quite involving in time.

betweem all the hacking BS, and BF2142 feeling more like a expansion than an actual unique game. I didnt buy it, i also didnt purchase it,c ause frankly i dont believe in paying full price of $50 for a game that has streaming ads in it. I bought rainbow six vegas, and found out the hard way see,it also streams ads when online. go figure. though the single player wasnt too bad, but didnt enjoy a big Axe ad slapped in my face in the game. but oh well seems im not missing much.frankly EA is down right getting on my nerves, with buggy hacked games, and delivering subpar games in general, they are turning into the WALMART of the gaming industry.

 ill wait til Call of duty 4 to come out :)

quake wars seemed a bit mediocre to me when i played the demo. didnt like it all that much.

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Originally posted by nakuma
quake wars seemed a bit mediocre to me when i played the demo. didnt like it all that much.

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I feel that way also, sad really.

To the other poster about ads being placed ingame, Who has time to even look at them?

Sovren1: "yo, check this ad out for......."*explosion* (I'm dead)

Team mate 1: "We are gathered here today to mourn the loss of this noob who instead of watching the six, got his six blown offfffffff....INCOMING!" *boom explosion* (everyone is dead)

And to me each game in the Battlefield series felt like expansions. Which incidentally had a plethora of new maps, new weapons, new vehicles, new gametypes and just plain out new time periods. These games cost mucho dinero to make, why on earth should they not be paid for. If the so-called game is equal in size to it's predecessor, why not pay full price?

BF2142 is actually a larger game than BF2 with the addition of a Titan mode gametype. New additions should cost money in my book. Can't expect programmers to work for free. These game companies do need some type of return for their supposed hard work(not saying they don't work hard because they do, meant it to mean EA/Dice shipping a tremendous amount of bugs in their final products and instead of testing themselves let their players test them, very apparent easy to spot bugs no less). Granted...you don't wanna play then don't pay, but don't complain that they are charging for their products.

I think quite a few gamers in the community have their views skewed about these things. So what if BF2142 is a new skin for BF2, It has very different elements which sets itself apart.
It's like replacing a stereo system with the very next model, or upgrading your xbox to your xbox 360. BF2142 added a different element to character customization, titan mode, completely solid maps, walkers...i say again walkers, CLOAKING and better knife play.

I agree with Sovren with regards to the reskin stuff.  But I do think that EA has been up to some pretty crappy business practices in the last few years.  I'm especially disappointed with their exclusive licensing agreements in their sports franchises.  A lot of folks (I'm not one of them) preferred the 2k games over the EA variant. 

Then you have Papyrus, who made the best racing simulators on the planet, only to be wiped out when EA signed an exclusive rights agreement with NASCAR.  EA has proceeded to make some horrible racing games which have been rejected by the sim racing community.  It's funny, most racing sim fans still play NR2003, a product that's 4-5 years old, instead of the latest EA offering.

Then you have the in-game advertising, and of course the firing of the Trauma Studios team just before BF2 was released. (though it's said that this was DICE's decision, not EA's.)

I've been a fan of EA Games since they were making 16 color games for the Commodore 64 and Apple II series.  But I'm really not happy with what they've been up to recently.  I wish they would spend as much time working on their games, and fixing problems with their games as they've been spending signing exclusive rights agreements and finding new ways to make money by turning their games into adware.

Yep, I've always loved playing the Battlefield Series. I pull this out once or twice a week. Sometimes I don't feel like something as involved as an MMO; I just want something I can pick up and have fun with without putting to much thinking in it. BF 2142 meets the bill.

FRAG OUT