General Discussion

People please

I would like everyone to think on something :

"In a comparison, there is aways someone that is better"

I think games are not to be compared, they are NOT done over any "law" and there are no right or wrong, so there is no base point to a comparision...

How can you try to compare AoC and WAR ? they are made by diferent companies, both with diferent point of views and base points on their games, plus, both are not even done yet...

I think opening a thread obout AoC OR WAR, would be much healthier, as on this kind of threads here we are going to see only continuous slapping, go figure, people DO have diferent opinions :P

So whoever started this thread, please remember the phrase above and please see that there is no point on comparing anything, specially games...

Originally posted by joejccva

 

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Originally posted by Gurkz
Im sorry Im not a big fan of either game but come on...
AoC will flop hardcore, the dev. even said the end game is a pve focused game.  Besides that the game looks are on par with EQ1 and its been in the final stages for months so thats what it will look like at release, the combat animation looks even worse.  The game keeps getting pushed back.  I know it will flop hardcore...
WAR backed by Mythic so of course its pvp based and it even says the game is based around pvp.  It has a much better name behind it.  Dont need to go into anymore really WAR will be the next big MMO like it or not thats the truth.

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You make presumptions of "AoC will flop hardcore" based on your opinions of what YOU think that game will be, how it will play, how the graphics look based on your opinions. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but then the more I read your post it sounds more like you're just another WAR fanboi trying to beat down a game that would give it competition. This is where the ignorance comes into play on your part.

Your comment "It has a much better name behind it", meaning that WAR has more of a "name" than CONAN? That makes you look even more stupid. CONAN is friggin legendary, and if you disagree then you're asleep at the wheel and 2 lights are headed straight for you.

Just be honest with yourself.  Look at the graphics and animation of AoC it really is on par with EQ1 and DAOC games that are over 5 years old.  I said Im not a fan of either game, Im sure I will try WAR because its made by Mythic and pvp centric and Im sure I  will not try AoC because its pve centric and to be honest it reminds me of D&L.  Its made by Funcom which is known for horrible games, support and random player banning.  I dont mean name as in the name of the game.  If you think that because its got the name CONAN it will do good your  wrong.  

If anything its just the opposite.  Take a look at LoTRO D&D, Star Treck lol!  Those games are a total joke and a pve based games with pvp thrown into it at the last min.  You couldnt have a bigger name than LoTR and they made a total joke of a game out of it.  Name means nothing as far as MMOs go when I say name behind it I mean Mythic vs Funcom.  Funcom has never released a good game, their one big title gets moved back and moved back because they know it sucks.

Just wait and think back to this post when AoC comes out and just flops.  I called it with LoTRO and D&D when everyone thought they would be great MMOs. 

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Originally posted by Gurkz

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Originally posted by joejccva

 

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Originally posted by Gurkz
Im sorry Im not a big fan of either game but come on...
AoC will flop hardcore, the dev. even said the end game is a pve focused game.  Besides that the game looks are on par with EQ1 and its been in the final stages for months so thats what it will look like at release, the combat animation looks even worse.  The game keeps getting pushed back.  I know it will flop hardcore...
WAR backed by Mythic so of course its pvp based and it even says the game is based around pvp.  It has a much better name behind it.  Dont need to go into anymore really WAR will be the next big MMO like it or not thats the truth.

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You make presumptions of "AoC will flop hardcore" based on your opinions of what YOU think that game will be, how it will play, how the graphics look based on your opinions. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but then the more I read your post it sounds more like you're just another WAR fanboi trying to beat down a game that would give it competition. This is where the ignorance comes into play on your part.
Your comment "It has a much better name behind it", meaning that WAR has more of a "name" than CONAN? That makes you look even more stupid. CONAN is friggin legendary, and if you disagree then you're asleep at the wheel and 2 lights are headed straight for you.

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Just be honest with yourself.  Look at the graphics and animation of AoC it really is on par with EQ1 and DAOC games that are over 5 years old.  I said Im not a fan of either game, Im sure I will try WAR because its made by Mythic and pvp centric and Im sure I  will not try AoC because its pve centric and to be honest it reminds me of D&L.  Its made by Funcom which is known for horrible games, support and random player banning.  I dont mean name as in the name of the game.  If you think that because its got the name CONAN it will do good your  wrong.  

If anything its just the opposite.  Take a look at LoTRO D&D, Star Treck lol!  Those games are a total joke and a pve based games with pvp thrown into it at the last min.  You couldnt have a bigger name than LoTR and they made a total joke of a game out of it.  Name means nothing as far as MMOs go when I say name behind it I mean Mythic vs Funcom.  Funcom has never released a good game, their one big title gets moved back and moved back because they know it sucks.
Just wait and think back to this post when AoC comes out and just flops.  I called it with LoTRO and D&D when everyone thought they would be great MMOs. 

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WAR will have RvR right where you can take over keeps/towers for Realm "points", and claim ownership of a certain part of an area. That was fun in DAoC for a while but it eventually got really old. AoC on the other hand will have basically the same RvR but with a twist where it's guild's establishments. You gather materials to build up a wall around an establishment, then you can have blacksmiths, markets, mail, bazaar for item trading, banks and everything else that a bunch of players can build. Then it's the siege combat. Other players/guilds try to siege an enemy guild and when they take it over, they get all benefits from that establishment.

PvP in WAR will be good as DAoC was good, but it gets old. PvP in AoC will actually mean something it seems, since you gain something for invading and taking over someone else's establishments other than just frickin realm points.

I never said in one word in my response to your post that I thought AoC will do well because it's Conan. Read it again please. You said WAR has a better name behind it than Conan, and I responded that your statement was ridiculous. Conan has been around for YEARS, and is more widely known. Never did I say once that AoC will be fantastic just because of the name CONAN.

And your ridiculous comment about how LOTRO was a joke and a flop. There you go again making stupid comments. LOTRO didn't have WoW's sub numbers but the game far from flopped. Their launch was ONE of the best in MMO's to date. They just lack some content and some folks are bored now, me being one of them. But the game was very good and did not flop at all.

Both will be awesome. Both will be played by thousands of people. Both will have PvE, PvP, and all those things we've grown to like. Sure, for developers and publishers it's a competition, 'cause there's money involved. But for us gamers, it's not; the fact that they see it as a competition is kind of a guarantee that they will work hard to please us. Bottom line: there's no "vs.", there's only "and". Companies lose or win, but gamers always win.

Right man...  Sure AoC sounds great so did D&L and so does DF but that doesnt mean its going to be as good as it sounds.  Right no matter what you will always make comments based on opinion and not facts.  Im sorry but LOTRO was a flop.  DAOC, L1/L2, EQ2, WoW, EVE and the list goes on and on with games with higher subs.  When I say flop I mean that as a new MMO with in the first year and it cant even keep subs or get subs to beat games that have been out for years its a flop IMO.  Sure some people play LOTRO but some people also playing Wolf Quest I would almost guess that even more people are playing Wolf Quests lol. 

Dont matter though just watch and learn...

Originally posted by joejccva

 

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Originally posted by Gurkz

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Originally posted by joejccva

 

 

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Originally posted by Gurkz
Im sorry Im not a big fan of either game but come on...
AoC will flop hardcore, the dev. even said the end game is a pve focused game.  Besides that the game looks are on par with EQ1 and its been in the final stages for months so thats what it will look like at release, the combat animation looks even worse.  The game keeps getting pushed back.  I know it will flop hardcore...
WAR backed by Mythic so of course its pvp based and it even says the game is based around pvp.  It has a much better name behind it.  Dont need to go into anymore really WAR will be the next big MMO like it or not thats the truth.

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You make presumptions of "AoC will flop hardcore" based on your opinions of what YOU think that game will be, how it will play, how the graphics look based on your opinions. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but then the more I read your post it sounds more like you're just another WAR fanboi trying to beat down a game that would give it competition. This is where the ignorance comes into play on your part.
Your comment "It has a much better name behind it", meaning that WAR has more of a "name" than CONAN? That makes you look even more stupid. CONAN is friggin legendary, and if you disagree then you're asleep at the wheel and 2 lights are headed straight for you.

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Just be honest with yourself.  Look at the graphics and animation of AoC it really is on par with EQ1 and DAOC games that are over 5 years old.  I said Im not a fan of either game, Im sure I will try WAR because its made by Mythic and pvp centric and Im sure I  will not try AoC because its pve centric and to be honest it reminds me of D&L.  Its made by Funcom which is known for horrible games, support and random player banning.  I dont mean name as in the name of the game.  If you think that because its got the name CONAN it will do good your  wrong.  

 

If anything its just the opposite.  Take a look at LoTRO D&D, Star Treck lol!  Those games are a total joke and a pve based games with pvp thrown into it at the last min.  You couldnt have a bigger name than LoTR and they made a total joke of a game out of it.  Name means nothing as far as MMOs go when I say name behind it I mean Mythic vs Funcom.  Funcom has never released a good game, their one big title gets moved back and moved back because they know it sucks.
Just wait and think back to this post when AoC comes out and just flops.  I called it with LoTRO and D&D when everyone thought they would be great MMOs. 

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WAR will have RvR right where you can take over keeps/towers for Realm "points", and claim ownership of a certain part of an area. That was fun in DAoC for a while but it eventually got really old. AoC on the other hand will have basically the same RvR but with a twist where it's guild's establishments. You gather materials to build up a wall around an establishment, then you can have blacksmiths, markets, mail, bazaar for item trading, banks and everything else that a bunch of players can build. Then it's the siege combat. Other players/guilds try to siege an enemy guild and when they take it over, they get all benefits from that establishment.

PvP in WAR will be good as DAoC was good, but it gets old. PvP in AoC will actually mean something it seems, since you gain something for invading and taking over someone else's establishments other than just frickin realm points.

I never said in one word in my response to your post that I thought AoC will do well because it's Conan. Read it again please. You said WAR has a better name behind it than Conan, and I responded that your statement was ridiculous. Conan has been around for YEARS, and is more widely known. Never did I say once that AoC will be fantastic just because of the name CONAN.

And your ridiculous comment about how LOTRO was a joke and a flop. There you go again making stupid comments. LOTRO didn't have WoW's sub numbers but the game far from flopped. Their launch was ONE of the best in MMO's to date. They just lack some content and some folks are bored now, me being one of them. But the game was very good and did not flop at all.

Shadowbane HAS aocs pvp system with segieing etc, minus the fact there there seemed to be much LESS limited places to build... Still the system got boring much more quickly, because when you lose you lose everything you had worked for.

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it is real time and not auto-attack based.

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i still want someone to explain this to me, in WAR i will select a target, and then press a key to execute an ability / attack. in AoC however, i will stand near a target, and then press a key to execute an attack.

this is the sum total of the difference as far as i can tell. in conan, i have to jump around like i was still playing wow to point at my target, in WAR, i dont.

boobs and blood dont interest me, if i want boobs... well - the internet is for porn.

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Originally posted by Xennith

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it is real time a