the few milion kids will still play. theres milions who got in the MMO world with WoW and they will love it for years.

for the rest... we need to move on. theres plenty of new games coming!

Well hmm nothing seems to important about this expansion... Half of it was promised with the release of the games, Via seige weapons... Now WOW fans wait for the 2nd expansion for Siege weapons... come on... this expansion is nothing more than a large patch... I feel sorry for anyone still playing WoW...

Me no like WOW, WOW bad...I played for 1 yr straight and it is bad,,,very bad. Bought so called expansion and played another 5 mnths..and it was not good. Bad. WOW is not wow. Curse all who play...CURSE.... I like turtles. Me still play to get upset and cynical about playing WOW

100 People that have no idea what to do with their time are whining and complaining about WOW, 8.000.000 People are playing and waiting for the new addon...

Do you ppl have nothing better to do than making everything bad?

5 million chinese farmers leaching off 3 million raid junkies.

Your post was the highlight of this whole thread. and I'm guilty of it. hahah bravo

Originally posted by Ngeldu5t

ROLF...

Most of the posters sound like those beaten wives...you keep complaining and nagging but in the end you always find your way home

You`ve completed all the stages of fucked up marriage...Mystification/adaptation/disillusion/seperation

 

haha  Your post made it worthwhile to troll this discussion. haha

Originally posted by Scalebane

well i can't wait for it, i seem to never get bored with the game, that's probably becuase i play to have fun, and it seems people nowadays can't have fun if they aren't the supreme best over everyone else.  blizzard has a lot of tastes to please and i think they do the best they can...why even get so angry  over something that doesn't matter in anyway at all...i just don't get it, anyways go find a fun game and quit hating on wow, its never going away till, blizzard decides, you gonna sit here for years crying about it?  if so have fun i guess hehe.

I don't know how to have fun. Trying to live after fighting a mage who' most likely lives with his mother, has pail white skin, and is overweight from eating microwaved burrito's or hotpockets and washing it down with a vault soda.  I don't have the time to get the gear to stand a chance to actually enjoy a battleground. So big bad WoW went byebye

Originally posted by wowfelnia

LoL... 

 

Personally I think all of you are speaking way over your head about this.  For someone who has been apart of Blizzards' WoW since the Release, I will probably be the only Optimistic commentary on this subject..lawl.

1) Getting to lvl 60 was an accomplishment.  Getting Epics was not  a waste of time.  For being on a server who's Guild is ranked in the top 20, Raiding in the 60's was competitive.  It's more then about the Epics.  It's about the Adventure, the Challenge, the Strategy, Teamwork, And Fun.  The fact that you all  complain about loosing those epics -  the waste of time.  You still had  a chance to play with those epics, and all things must come to end.  I guess the more important moral in this is that you played through 60 actuallly being able to raid.  some people never had that opportunity.  Server Stonemaul - Guild A Team.  This guild was complete with every instance/raid  on farm status gaining gear so fast that it put them on the map as one of the greatest guilds WoW has ever seen.   And today at 70.  They are still on top of the server as the farthest, fastest, and most competitive guild in that server.  And thats what its about.  Not once did they complain about loosing epics because they knew they were going to get better gear eventually ( Like 2 weeks later when they all hit 70 -_- and was already attuned for Kara)  .

 

thats why i am sad that i missed out (by about 3 weeks) from raiding MC past the 1st boss.  i was sooo pumped up to raid my way to AQ40 and then the BC came out.  losing my gear meant crap all it was losing out on the instances and the feel of those raids that really got me mad

I think WOTLK looks pretty cool, but  I wish blizzard would add some lower level content. I am glad however that they finally manned up and added a new class, I think with BC they thought it might scare away subscribers. Anyway, I'm getting off topic. It seems to me like it'll be the best expansion yet. Anyone wanna take bets on what level Death Knights will start at or what you have to to do unlock them?

Originally posted by Tyrlais

Originally posted by Scalebane

well i can't wait for it, i seem to never get bored with the game, that's probably becuase i play to have fun, and it seems people nowadays can't have fun if they aren't the supreme best over everyone else.  blizzard has a lot of tastes to please and i think they do the best they can...why even get so angry  over something that doesn't matter in anyway at all...i just don't get it, anyways go find a fun game and quit hating on wow, its never going away till, blizzard decides, you gonna sit here for years crying about it?  if so have fun i guess hehe.

I don't know how to have fun. Trying to live after fighting a mage who' most likely lives with his mother, has pail white skin, and is overweight from eating microwaved burrito's or hotpockets and washing it down with a vault soda.  I don't have the time to get the gear to stand a chance to actually enjoy a battleground. So big bad WoW went byebye

   I don't like hotpockets and my mom has  Alzheimer's disease..perhaps I'm takeing this whole thing too personal.

As a post a few above me said, it is the process of getting the gear that is suppose to be fun, and than being reward after you achieve it. If you have no fun in playing a game than dont. Whether you like it or not they will continue to raise the level cap, think probably till 100 to fight against sergarus or something like that.

Im playing WoW now and i dont RAID, but im still enjoying it. They have to do it to satisfied both the casual and the hardcore. And raising the level cap is the only way now. But Blizz is learning, looking at the new 5-man instances, more and more players are getting involve. But yes its still a grind. But still, Blizz is not stupid. Hopefully in near future they will come out with something that will really satisfied  more people.

So either you join the rest or you re-roll or you quit. that's the only option left.

People who are not level 70 right now or anytime soon, will most-likely not play wow anymore. It's just too much! I used to love playing wow before TBC, but I wanted them to fix PvP... but instead, they removed their PvP system 

I was hoping there would be some nice PvP content in the expansion, but no. Right now, I'm looking forward to Warhammer Online. Yes, wow fanboys like to call it a wow-copy...but it isn't. If you look at the Warhammer tabletop game, you can see all the races & classes come straight out of there. To be honest, I don't even care if it looks the same, I know it's gonna be better (PvP-wise atleast).

Wrath of the Lich King looks pretty cool too, but wow has proved it's all about PvE, and PvP is just a small part of it. Siege weapons and destructable buildings sound appealing, but as far as I know it will probably be some right-click environment objects. I hope the expansion turns out to be better than TBC anyway. Oh, and by the way,  Warhammer will never beat Warcraft as far as I know. Wow is PvE and war is PvP, and PvP brings down a lot of frustration.

By the time they release the new expansion (i presume around Jan next year as they stated that they would like to add an expension one per year and TBC came out jan 07) alot of the pve raiding guilds will be biting the heals of hyjal, mine will be anyway and we arnt hardcore.

So in my opinion the timing is great. Still another 5 months to go. Gives our all guys more things to do. Yes grind....but tbh the majority of the players wouldnt be there if they didnt like to do that. New skills, spells, siege machines, hero class, new areas (as big as outland) etc is great.

Originally posted by DarkSnaker

People who are not level 70 right now or anytime soon, will most-likely not play wow anymore. It's just too much! I used to love playing wow before TBC, but I wanted them to fix PvP... but instead, they removed their PvP system 

I was hoping there would be some nice PvP content in the expansion, but no. Right now, I'm looking forward to Warhammer Online. Yes, wow fanboys like to call it a wow-copy...but it isn't. If you look at the Warhammer tabletop game, you can see all the races & classes come straight out of there. To be honest, I don't even care if it looks the same, I know it's gonna be better (PvP-wise atleast).

Wrath of the Lich King looks pretty cool too, but wow has proved it's all about PvE, and PvP is just a small part of it. Siege weapons and destructable buildings sound appealing, but as far as I know it will probably be some right-click environment objects. I hope the expansion turns out to be better than TBC anyway. Oh, and by the way,  Warhammer will never beat Warcraft as far as I know. Wow is PvE and war is PvP, and PvP brings down a lot of frustration.

heh, looking at all those frustrated kids-of-the-grind just in this thread alone makes me pretty sure that pve is creating atlast as much frustration as pvp.

Originally posted by Tyrlais

Originally posted by Scalebane

well i can't wait for it, i seem to never get bored with the game, that's probably becuase i play to have fun, and it seems people nowadays can't have fun if they aren't the supreme best over everyone else.  blizzard has a lot of tastes to please and i think they do the best they can...why even get so angry  over something that doesn't matter in anyway at all...i just don't get it, anyways go find a fun game and quit hating on wow, its never going away till, blizzard decides, you gonna sit here for years crying about it?  if so have fun i guess hehe.

I don't know how to have fun. Trying to live after fighting a mage who' most likely lives with his mother, has pail white skin, and is overweight from eating microwaved burrito's or hotpockets and washing it down with a vault soda.  I don't have the time to get the gear to stand a chance to actually enjoy a battleground. So big bad WoW went byebye

haha, well not sure about you but i never raid, tried to do mc a couple times but i just don't like the time involved in it...anyways i never have had that great of gear but i still pvp'd i may have died but dieing doesn't bother me, i really don't care if i win the fight or not, just did my best to help out the bg team.

but you all really need to stop blaming blizzard for stuff, they simply made a game they hoped would be fun and people have found it fun,  yeah i know its hard to understand that not everyone out there want to play complicated games, but their are some of us out there, does that warrent calling us names and such no i don't think so, i mean i come home from work and just want a relaxing easy game, wow does that and there isn't anything wrong with that.

Now i understand there are some out there that think blizzard ruined the mmo market or whatever, but honestly they just made a game and hoped people would like it, they didn't force anyone at gun point to play it, its not their fault if other companies seem to want to copy what they have done, which i personally don't believe is happeneing but some believe that it is, they aren't making anyone do anything agianst their will....for some of you complicated games are fun, for some of us we enjoy easy games, maybe people just need to start respecting each other...prolly too much to ask tho heh...

Originally posted by BarCrow

Originally posted by Tyrlais

Originally posted by Scalebane

well i can't wait for it, i seem to never get bored with the game, that's probably becuase i play to have fun, and it seems people nowadays can't have fun if they aren't the supreme best over everyone else.  blizzard has a lot of tastes to please and i think they do the best they can...why even get so angry  over something that doesn't matter in anyway at all...i just don't get it, anyways go find a fun game and quit hating on wow, its never going away till, blizzard decides, you gonna sit here for years crying about it?  if so have fun i guess hehe.

I don't know how to have fun. Trying to live after fighting a mage who' most likely lives with his mother, has pail white skin, and is overweight from eating microwaved burrito's or hotpockets and washing it down with a vault soda.  I don't have the time to get the gear to stand a chance to actually enjoy a battleground. So big bad WoW went byebye

   I don't like hotpockets and my mom has  Alzheimer's disease..perhaps I'm takeing this whole thing too personal.

I wasn't trying to step on anyone's toes. but I lvled a dranaei shamman to lvl 70. I had a horde shamman before. but my friends all moved to play on the alliance side. I'm not a hardcore player like them. there parents pay for everything. I pay my own bills and have a 8-4 job M-F. but I was in love with pvping before they added pvp battlegrounds. then battlegrounds became a hard-core item race also.

And at lvl 70 with all 5 man blues and a few epic's I get nailed in 2-3 hits and cant enjoy it when they have the upper edge cause they have more time to get gear. but I guess i have to except that im getting old and i dont have the time to play like I used to.

Originally posted by Tyrlais

 

Originally posted by BarCrow

Originally posted by Tyrlais

Originally posted by Scalebane

well i can't wait for it, i seem to never get bored with the game, that's probably becuase i play to have fun, and it seems people nowadays can't have fun if they aren't the supreme best over everyone else.  blizzard has a lot of tastes to please and i think they do the best they can...why even get so angry  over something that doesn't matter in anyway at all...i just don't get it, anyways go find a fun game and quit hating on wow, its never going away till, blizzard decides, you gonna sit here for years crying about it?  if so have fun i guess hehe.

I don't know how to have fun. Trying to live after fighting a mage who' most likely lives with his mother, has pail white skin, and is overweight from eating microwaved burrito's or hotpockets and washing it down with a vault soda.  I don't have the time to get the gear to stand a chance to actually enjoy a battleground. So big bad WoW went byebye

   I don't like hotpockets and my mom has  Alzheimer's disease..perhaps I'm takeing this whole thing too personal.

I wasn't trying to step on anyone's toes. but I lvled a dranaei shamman to lvl 70. I had a horde shamman before. but my friends all moved to play on the alliance side. I'm not a hardcore player like them. there parents pay for everything. I pay my own bills and have a 8-4 job M-F. but I was in love with pvping before they added pvp battlegrounds. then battlegrounds became a hard-core item race also.

 

And at lvl 70 with all 5 man blues and a few epic's I get nailed in 2-3 hits and cant enjoy it when they have the upper edge cause they have more time to get gear. but I guess i have to except that im getting old and i dont have the time to play like I used to.

  last post was just a rib poker....I completely agree...I really enjoy playing WOW...but due to time constraints and lack of  an assist...I too wander about in Greens and Blues..with no instance or raid gear to speak of.  I don't even bother PVP most times because there would be no point. The ones I really love are the level 70 players, loaded to the gills with supreme raid gear, challenging players 20 levels lower than them....???...what, again, is the point?..oh well..some people get off on anything..I suppose.

Originally posted by SonofSeth

Originally posted by Faelan

 

Originally posted by SonofSeth

Hahahahaha, the only crowd dumber than WoW players are the ex-WoW players...  hahahaha

 

Over generalizing much are we?

No, not realy. If you read the posts you can see that WoW players are well aware of shortcomings of WoW and they know why they are playing and why they're having fun. These new fresh baked WoW burnouts are the ones I find rediciluos. I mean, they don't even know how stupid it sounds when someone writes something like "I've been playing this game from beta and I know what I'm talking about, it sucks, it's a grind, it's boring, it's shallow"  Man, if it took you 3 years to find out you don't like something while playing it hours and hours every day.... must I say more?

From that point of view, I completely agree with what you said.  MMOs are a "it's the nature of the beast" type of thing, even if there are some variations.  They are what they are.