General Discussion

What is the point of botting, buying gold, and cheating the game in general?

The money is fake, the character is fake, the game will die (they all do eventually in some form).  So then what is the purpose of cheating it, even if only for the time you are playing, to achieve equal or higher levels than the pure player? 

To gain an edge or keep up. Most people that don't have the time to play 9 hours a day to farm and farm for various items and reasons buy gold to buy said items. Also botting is the same thing (more so to skip to the end which is stupid or say if your guild needs a healer class, you will power level or bot him to the level you need). Only reasons I can think of.

I think people cheat cuz they want their boring job done...(grinding to lvl)

So...they cheat till they get high lvl and then they cheat for the equips...then they PVP i think :S

Well...basically -->     Cheaters = True n00bs

Cheers

Originally posted by jesad

What is the point of botting, <to power through the boring, grinding parts of most MMORPG's> buying gold, <to get some sort of advantage, or obtain something sooner than normally would be possible> and cheating the game in general? <To enjoy the game on a player's own terms, instead of the rules set by the developers>

The money is fake, <no, the in game money is quite real> the character is fake, <nope, wrong again, character looks same as anyone else's, except maybe better geared> the game will die (they all do eventually in some form). <and you'd be hard pressed to find a single game that died because of RMT>  So then what is the purpose of cheating it, <see above> even if only for the time you are playing, to achieve equal or higher levels than the pure player? <bingo, to keep up with, or exceed people who can spend far more time in game than they can>

Yes, RMT is cheating, which you already knew so not quite sure why you asked. (in fact, your entire post is rather redundant, isn't it)  But if you are bored on a Friday afternoon, we'll all be glad to play along.

THIS is a better topic than improving control choices in free to play MMOs?  Well since you invaded my topic with your crap let me just use my freedom of speech in your post.

Poor game design is frequently the cause of cheating.  Economy, Classes, Itemization and other factors that stop the casual player from competing with folks that have far more time than the average Joe.  Is cheating wrong?  Certainly.  IMHO, I would rather be lower level, less equipped and legit than use some bot or service to farm or level for me.  On the same note, if I find a game is just stupid hard for the sake of being stupid hard, and it becomes tedious and boring, I move on to something more fun.  One problem is that many people are very competitive about the characters and it gives them a feeling of achievement to accomplish something in an online game they usually don't accomplish in real life by comparison.  These people are either the biggest cheaters or the biggest complainers against cheaters (because cheaters effect their glorious in-game social status).  In either case, I think some people need to get out more often.

Coldsun - If your topic had been titled "Control choices in Free to Play MMO's" I might have been nicer to you in that string.  It wasn't so I wasn't. 

As far as cheating goes, I agree with you 100%.  Cheating does detract from the pure players feeling of accomplishment.  But isn't the pure players feeling of accomplishment the reason and format for creating these games?  Developers are not wasting valuable resources trying to make the game play-proof, they are wasting them to try and make the game cheat-proof.  Resources, I might add, that could be spent much more wisely on content, playability, and in general making the games more fun.

What most cheaters call "the boring stuff in the middle" the developers and the true players of the game call "THE GAME".

And Cold, if I need to get out more than so do you because you are right here with me right now, and worse, you are following me from string to string instead of trying to fix the mess you made of your own from the start.

When you mentioned power leveling did you mean paying some "company" to PL your character for you? I am confused, when I think of power leveling I think of guildmates taking whatever baby toon that needs levels and running them through dungeons or helping kill high level mobs.

Peeyow!

I beg to disagree with you on messing up my string.  If you hadn't insulted me personally and aimed barbs at who I am (SUV driving, gas wasting, ebay cheating, etc) with your mad assumptions I wouldn't have followed you here to see this waste of space you call a post.  I'm assuming you don't like the word "Korean."  Is that something to be ashamed of?  Are they not the creators of most the free to play games?  If a person wants to send a message to those very developers, are they wrong in posting their nationality?  I think not.  They should be very proud of their accomplishments - I for one am one of their supporters.  Now, I apologize for the off-topic rant.. Back to the topic at hand... <One thing I will admit to - I should have made the thread "Korean Developers - Please consider adding WASD controls more often to your games">

The fact of the matter is that while wasting time on making games cheatproof takes away from the very time that could improve the game, people are going to cheat no matter what.  Its a deplorable human nature thing which we unfortunately have to deal with.  Or the developers can simply ignore it (like they do in many free to play games unfortunately) and then the game becomes a huge mess that no legit player can stand playing.  They have no choice but to put in certain safeguards against cheating if they want their game to be successful.  Sad but true fact.

Any game in which a person pays someone to play part of it for them is a bad game.

I would like to make a negative comment about people who play bad games, but I won’t people there’s not too many choices as the moment, in the MMO market anyways.

People always want to make negative comments about the gold buyers.  But what about the game?  A game so damn boring people want to pay more just to skip stuff?