Pirates of the Burning Sea

SOE has zero control over POTBS.POTPS is in strong financial shape and has complete design control.

 I must say I am truely impressed by the number of companies sacrificing their playerbase and bottom line before they even launch.

Signing with a company that so many associate with "satan", low quality, and bad buissness practices smacks of a tight financial situation. The only real question I have is not if soe is going to buy this game out but when??

Originally posted by Arawon

SOE has zero control over POTBS.POTPS is in strong financial shape and has complete design control.

Yep, it's just like the Vangurd days before the truth finally hit. So, keep on believing that 'til the end.

Originally posted by Ouchmuch

 I must say I am truely impressed by the number of companies sacrificing their playerbase and bottom line before they even launch.

Signing with a company that so many associate with "satan", low quality, and bad buissness practices smacks of a tight financial situation. The only real question I have is not if soe is going to buy this game out but when??

FLS have said many, many times that they are in excellent financial shape.  I saw no evidence that would cause me to doubt that.  Take it for what its worth.

Big difference between POTBS and Vanguard, one was done and ready to be published the other was a Beta product forced to release well before it's time.

If we believe what the devs have been saying at their site this game is in great shape, they've taken the time while they've been waiting to work out a publisher to polish the content in the game getting a 1000 missions per nationality.  They arent sitting with a game that is no where near ready to play hoping it'll catch on enough to last while they work the bugs out.  Sigil admitted straight up that Vanguard was released early.  They lied in saying it was only a few months early rather than 6 months to a year. 

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Originally posted by farore
For the people that are not gonna play the game Because of SoE i feel bad for you. Its not that hard to understand how the relationship is gonna work. SoE is not in charge of game development plane and simple and if you choose to not go with them because of past game experiences you dont have to worry about any of that with FLS, I had a per cu SWG character and lost alot of stuff because of the NGE and Cu but that doesn't meen I should hold another company accountable by not buying there game.

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Actually, it does mean that you should hold all companies that continue to do business with SOE accountable. Anytime a business partnership happens, there are PR consequences. Lots of people won't buy PotBS simply because they are partnered with SOE now. FLS knew that when they made the contract decision. They're hoping people will give them a chance and others simply won't care.. no, they're banking on that actually.

I won't even mention this game to my SOE hating friends now. I tried to explain to them that Vanguard was only being published by SOE, they had nothing to do with the actual game itself. My friends wouldn't hear of it. When SOE purchased Vanguard/Sigil, although I certainly couldn't see it coming, it happened and it looked like they (my friends) were right and I was the fool. C'est la vie.

Like I said, to me, this is not a big deal. But to say that you should expect anything different than from what happened with Vanguard would be, well, shame on you. Expect the worst, hope for the best.

Originally posted by WisebutCruel

Originally posted by Arawon

SOE has zero control over POTBS.POTPS is in strong financial shape and has complete design control.

Yep, it's just like the Vangurd days before the truth finally hit. So, keep on believing that 'til the end.

I'm not aware of what Sigil's situation was, but FLS still has the financial security to release the game without a publisher - In fact, they just hired more employees! They only want to have the game successfully localized, advertised, and sold in retail stores. If they didn't sign a contract with a publisher, the game would have been available for download online.

the amount of doom preachers is truly amazing. The article clearly says that SOE will only do the publishing, marketing, things like that.

Comparing it to Vanguard is absolutely pointless. Vanguard was taken over by SOE because it bombed and ran out of funds. This was actually a good thing, if SOE didn't take it over, then Vanguard would have been shut down. PotBS clearly says that they have enough funds, and even if it bombs and SOE has to take it over, then thats always much better then having the game shut down.

Say it aint so, say it aint so.

If Potbs has teh SoE tag next to its name then i will be holdign off on getting this game for at least a month or 2. If reports about the game are not above 70% good, then i wont be purchasing it period!

Why, because every single game that has had the SoE tag has been ball'ed up completly. Vanguard was said to only have SoE as its distributer at first, then joint, b ut no control (load of BS), you could tell after 3 days SoE were pulling the strings for VG (many though couldnt see that and said sigil had control), now after SoE takes over completly those VG diehard fans were wrong. I aint going to waste money and have the same crap pulled on me again.

Thats now 2 games (gods and heroes-rome rising, and Pirates of teh burning sea) that have the SoE tag next to their names and both will go to teh bottom of my 4 game list, only leaves Warhammer online (alias W.A.R) and Age of Conan left. As i already mentioned any SoE title will be at least 1-2 months runnign BEFORE i purchase it unless you get to see how the game is and how it runs in a last part beta stage (server stress test) or free first 7 days to view the gameplay, then you will know if its buggy, crash's or whatever.

P.S - Arawon - I heard that same load of tripe with Vanguard, i just do not Believe it at all.