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altairzq 7/05/07 4:22:32 AM
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Originally posted by Raztor Aye! |
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lomiller 7/05/07 12:40:36 PM
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Originally posted by Tnice
That was pretty much my reaction. I doubt Spellborn has any chance of being a hit at this point. I guess if they make an utterly fantastic game and get some word of mouth after release, but they would need an almost prefect game to accomplish that. EVE did something similar but even they got a huge boost from the collapse of E&B and to some extent SWG.
The agreement with SOE all but guarantees PotBS will launch with more subscribers then Spellborn could hope for. It’s still up to FLS and deliver a good product to hold onto those customers, but that doesn’t have anything to do with SOE.
Everyone knew Vanguard had real serous problems leading up to it’s release and it still sold 200K boxes, more then enough for it to thrive had they produced a product those 200K people wanted to play. If PotBS gets even half that many sales and delivers a good product its launch will be a success that Spellborn doesn’t have a chance of touching.
If FLS doesn’t produce a good product the failure will be more public but it still won’t be SOE’s fault. |
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kovah 7/05/07 12:43:51 PM
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Another thing I seem to recall is that there were quite a few people (claiming) to break the NDA during Vanguard's Closed Beta to let everyone know how bad it really was. Anyone else remember that? Wouldn't we have the same type of thing happening if PotBS was bad? I dunno, maybe not relevant but wtf. And lol@stickiedthreadimo |
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Sariah 7/05/07 12:47:42 PM
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Originally posted by kovahWell VG was really bad.... Is it possible for PoTBS to be that bad? ... I doubt it since IMO VG was the single handedly worst released MMO ever only because it was bug infested and not finished. If they would of put some polish on it it would have been just a standard MMO not really innovative with classical MMO origins... Secondly OMFG this thread is still going ? |
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teabag 7/05/07 4:07:39 PM
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FLS will need more cash and time's and that where Sony know's best. Sony is seeking developers who are fragile in need of cash to buy time's by trying to finish the overall so called balance with bug's to catch.. you with me savvy?. FLS and Sigil walked the plank and Sony pushed them over!. SAVVY!. /spit on Sony.
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altairzq 7/05/07 4:39:36 PM
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Originally posted by kovahSure I remember that, they started around beta3 I think which was a few months before release if I'm not mistaken. I also entered beta at that stage and couldn't believe the game was so unfriendly and cumbersome to play. But fans in beta forums just defended it saying (screaming rather) that it was beta and it would get better. Which it did, but not enough. |
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Scriar 7/06/07 10:45:24 AM
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This thread is still going ? You guys must of all argued the same points over and over, in the end the game has not released yet so we do not know how soe will effect it, if at all. btw why has a whine/troll thread been stickied lol |
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defenestrate 7/06/07 11:42:01 AM
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My shield arm is getting tired from fending off all of the AoC gremlins. |
Holy shit it got stickied! Now thats funny. |
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MMOLifestyle 7/07/07 2:06:51 PM
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We need to keep a few things straight here in this discussion.
When talking about "SOE" we need to differentiate between SOE (Sony Online Entertainment) and PP (Platform Publishing) which is a DBA (Doing Business As) of SOE. It is a publishing company only, that has now been used by a few "people" including Disney. It also distinguishes itself from the internal SOE MMO business. In other words, while related, they are not the same.
Many do not know it, but it is a rat race to compete with other products in the retail market. What this means is that it is very hard to get box space on a store shelf nowadays without having drawing power. The Sony name brings with it, this drawing and name recognition power. Which some of the new companies will need (at least for their first effort in the game market).
We also need to realize that SONY and Sigil were "in bed" with each other a lot more than is commonly believed from the start. It was not just a (PP) publishing deal. They (Sigil) were also involved heavily with SOE in a direct manor. SOE handled billing, had VG as part of the station pass and the game was on SOE servers. So. SOE (not PP) also had a lot of money tied up in the project. They made a smart business move (for themselves) by buying the company (Sigil) out so that they (SOE) would not also see a substantial loss and could continue on with a good part of the Sigil team staying in place (and the money to back them up).
I do not think you would see that kind of thing with a straight PP deal such as Perpetual Entertainment has. Other than producing discs and finding shelf space for them, their is no investment.
As for POTBS, well, that is a story for another day. |
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Obee 7/09/07 4:30:25 AM
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