Originally posted by ASmith84
why do people want a death penalty?  what is so great about loosin xp?  it just makes you play the game longer which makes you pay more.  why do people like this?  i dont understand this. whats wrong with no death penalty? why cant we just enjoy a game with no negative outcome? even if you loose its ok just get back in there and try harder. what is wrong with this? the best death penalty if you consider it one is the wow ghost walk.  i think that was pretty cool. i didnt think the fixin armor thing was necessary.  findin your body was punishment enough. sometimes it takes like 5 minutes to find it. then you have to wait till the enemies were gone to res. i like that its unique and original. plus its not too serious like loosin xp. whats wrong with this?

It is very simple.

Because it feels pointless if it doesn't have a penelty

 
I don't know about most people but I like death penelty because of the feeling that if I lose I'll actually lose which makes me play better and actually gives me a bit of a rush when pvp as apposed to other games were I lose nothing so theirs no reason for me to feel like I need to stay alive Hope thats clear

It is the thrill you get as you get close to death and you just barely make it out alive. It makes fighting more exciting expecially when you are getting real close.

Originally posted by ASmith84
why do people want a death penalty?  what is so great about loosin xp?  it just makes you play the game longer which makes you pay more. 

I'm a strange, atypical sort because I don't need a negative incentive to avoid getting killed in an MMO.

But, apparently, there are many who, unless the game delivers 50,000 volts to their keyboard and mouse don't think they're being penalized enough for dying in cyberspace.

Death penalty should be in place.  think about it, whether it's losing a little time as you run back to your body/location or losing a bit of xp, a death penalty adds risk to the situation.

whats the point of playing the game if the comp (PvE) or enemy (PvP) can't kill you?  Answer: no point, no fun.

Whats the point of playing if the only threat is ....well the loss of a few seconds while your character stands back up?  it's crap like that that made me quit WoW. 

How many times have you played a game were a low level guy (too low for the area) just kept dying again and again?  spamming party requests, training mobs to you, and over all irritating everyone.

With a death penalty in place your forced to weigh risk vs gain.  is the risk of death worth the poential gain.  Do you stay in an "safe" area and gain more xp or do you go into more dangerous area that has greater xp gain?

Originally posted by ASmith84
why do people want a death penalty?  what is so great about loosin xp?  it just makes you play the game longer which makes you pay more.  why do people like this?  i dont understand this. whats wrong with no death penalty? why cant we just enjoy a game with no negative outcome? even if you loose its ok just get back in there and try harder. what is wrong with this? the best death penalty if you consider it one is the wow ghost walk.  i think that was pretty cool. i didnt think the fixin armor thing was necessary.  findin your body was punishment enough. sometimes it takes like 5 minutes to find it. then you have to wait till the enemies were gone to res. i like that its unique and original. plus its not too serious like loosin xp. whats wrong with this?

You answered your own rhetoric question. And the post after tthat gave you the answer.

Death penalty not only motivates players to not die, it encourages them to be in a "danger" zone that makes them feel that if they die any minute it would all be over. It gives player this "high" about the game either bad or good. imo

I dont like playing games with no item lose.

Why would i play a competative game when there is no competition? if i kill someone they shouldn't be able to come back over and over. Its like being in the playoffs and loosing but u never actually get kicked out of the playoffs. When you loose it should mean something.

Personally i would like item lose and some other kind of "status" penalty.... like beside my name I would become Stickman VI if i died 6 times. So people wouldn't want to lose their status of never dying.

Back in old beta days of ryzom there was no death penalty, to make the testing more smooth and easy, the good thing about it was you suddenly had a free and easy way to transport, we called it the ragus express :) If there is no penalty for dieing, alot of the challenge feeling of it all goes away...

the good stuff is only good when put in contrast of something bad, alot of the time ^^

my two grains of sand anyway :)
*hugs from lil me*

Originally posted by Soraellion
If there's nothing to lose, what's the point in winning?