WAR (Warhammer Online)

I think the RVR concepts in war are very interesting.  However, i have a few questions based on there system of pvp.  So they mentioned there are four tiers that each faction will hold and eventually do battle over.  In the process, factions can lose or gain their tier based on a number of different factors of pve and pvp.

  My question is, what happens to a faction when it begins to lose their tiers?  It seems like a snowball affect would arise, thus granting the winning factions with more assurance to dominate in the conquering of their opposite faction.  Wouldn't this eventually lead to servers being totally overrun by a certain faction?  I have watched many videos about war and i still am not clear about the pvp system.  In theory it seems more fun, mainly giving the players control to shape the world. Hopefully it doesn't turn out that a player's game experience is based off of the early accomlishments of his or her faction rather then an open world that is constantly up for grabs.

Hmm, well hopefully the RVR will be further explained in the coming months. 

In regards to your other claim about fantasy games being over played, yea i kind of see what your getting at.  Thats why im also keeeping my eye on huxley.  Although what i really am looking for is a game that can repeat the stages of fun i had with wow.  Back before there were battlegrounds, shouts of "raiding ___ pst for invite" filled the general chat where all levels could participate in massive assaults against the opposing faction's outpost.  Then, you could log onto the forums and read about the previous event from all sorts of different perspectives.  Friendships, rivalries, enemies, and dedicated trolls would arise. 

 Yea....i miss those days.

On a side note, warhammer has a lot of mmo players interested.  Many different types of gaming communities are talking about dropping their current game and switching over to war once it comes out.  Personally, i have only seen this done with a few games like star wars galaxies, everquest 2, and world of warcraft. 

All of these games were very successful in their own rights (although swg seemed to constantly hurt itself)  Basically what im trying to convey to you is that warhammer WILL have a strong community from the start and will most likely be a success unless the developers make major mistakes. 

Originally posted by Cousmash
im not sure, but i thought i heard that once a side of the faction takes control of the main city, after a while it will start all over again and then you get to do it all over. they did it so that no one faction could control everything always.

Yes. One of the Pod casts mentions this. When attacking the capital city, an instanced scenario occurs and spawns as many instances as necessary to cater to all players involved. If your side gains enough points to win, the instances are shut down emptying all players outside the gates of the city, and the walls/gates are breached in the actual game world. This lets everyone inside to sack/loot the city. The only part that doesn't become under your (the winners') control is the safe zone around the opposing faction's flight master... the Mythic dev didn't go into too much detail, but he did say that after a set time the city reverts and the tier resets to default condition ie 50/50

Here is a video about the campaign game (capturing capital city) its toward the end of the first vid he talks about capturing the capital:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J8XaEUuYzI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h31S9wMGbhE

Originally posted by TheHavok

I think the RVR concepts in war are very interesting.  However, i have a few questions based on there system of pvp.  So they mentioned there are four tiers that each faction will hold and eventually do battle over.  In the process, factions can lose or gain their tier based on a number of different factors of pve and pvp.

My question is, what happens to a faction when it begins to lose their tiers?  It seems like a snowball affect would arise, thus granting the winning factions with more assurance to dominate in the conquering of their opposite faction.  Wouldn't this eventually lead to servers being totally overrun by a certain faction?

I don't see any problem with this "snowball" effect you describe as it actually helps one side accomplish the game's highest goal of sacking and looting the enemy capitals.  Without the snowball effect, you would probably end up with a stagnant stalemate.  I would prefer to see one or two of the six capitals fall every month and not once a year.  It won't lead to any long term imbalance since we already know that the game resets the tiers after a victory.

What does concern me, is where are all the fighters for tiers one, two, and three supposed to come from?  This won't be a problem when the game is new but after a short time everyone will have their main character at max level and restricted to combat in the fourth tier.  Since you get experience from PvP, it will not be possible for veteran players to keep one alt set aside for each of the lower tiers.  Do they expect players to constantly delete and reroll alts to fill the first three tiers with combatants?  Do they expect the lower tiers to be supported by a constant flow of new players?

Originally posted by raykor

 I would prefer to see one or two of the six capitals fall every month and not once a year.  It won't lead to any long term imbalance since we already know that the game resets the tiers after a victory.

What does concern me, is where are all the fighters for tiers one, two, and three supposed to come from?  This won't be a problem when the game is new but after a short time everyone will have their main character at max level and restricted to combat in the fourth tier.  Since you get experience from PvP, it will not be possible for veteran players to keep one alt set aside for each of the lower tiers.  Do they expect players to constantly delete and reroll alts to fill the first three tiers with combatants?  Do they expect the lower tiers to be supported by a constant flow of new players?