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Today, Carolyn Koh takes a look at The Microsoft Habu, a mouse that came out of a collaboration between Microsoft and Razer.
Read the whole review here. Cheers, |
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Sweet - had to dig for the small pictures to see what it actually looked like from a top-down view.
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Good review! If i didn't like the logitech g5 so very very much, I might look into it some more.
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Originally posted by Samhael *sniff* I took so many nice pics too. Borrowed a pro camera and light even. I had a size comparison with the G5 and the Diamondback, and a glowy in the dark pic. I would absolutely love the mouse if I could get my hand wrapped around it. ~ Carolyn {Edit} Loaded it up. :) ![]() It's not a very good picture and our graphics guy has his standards. This one I took with my point and shoot camera. :D Notice: The views expressed in this post are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of MMORPG.com or its management. |
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Okay i had the money to go and buy it just so i could make a comparison to my new G5 from Logitech and from hours of playing shooters including doom3/ halo/ and mmo's like everquest 1 and 2 as well as wow/ also Neverwinter nights after an overall comparison i find that the new G5 has a better feel and a better response time. over all i think microsoft came up short.
Ancient Everquest Player |
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Well the form of intelli 3.0 is the best of all times, and since this mouse is all new tech and the fact that they don't sell intelli 3.0 anymore probably makes it worth it
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I'm using an logitech MX laser feels ok to me so i going to stick with it till it dies have had it over a year and still doing well batter last along time so i happy no need to up graid yet.
cant see why ppl buy so meany find one u like and stick with it |
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I wish this review had been out before I'd bought my Diamondback. There's a very important point made here (and other reviews have touched on it also) about the sensitivity of the mouse and how it's designed to be clicked and moved. The Diamondback is VERY sensitive, to anything: movement, pressure, a strong breeze... You get the idea. Now don't get me wrong, I LOVE this mouse, and I've had excellent results with it, but the buttons are almost too sensitive at times. I probably at least three times a day end up clicking when I don't intend to. Most of the time that's not a problem, it's just an irritant, but in a MMOG, when you might be hovering over the buy or the sell button and haven't yet decided, a click at the wrong time can be extremely painful. Now in all fairness, the sensitivity can be gotten used to, and I find the Diamondback to be one of the most comfortable mice I've ever used, even though I'm more partial to the ones you can sort of drape your hand over. It's worth mentioning that you may want to think twice if you're moving from a more robust mouse to something like a Diamondback, as it requires a fair bit of time to get used to that sensitivity. |
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Part of the build for my new PC earlier in the year was the MS HABU mouse. For me its a great mouse, doing all but one thing I would expect! That one thing is where I wish I'd gone for the Logitech G5 instead; there's no side to side movement on the scroll wheel :( Other than that little quibble its perfect!
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I've had my Habu for a few months now and absolutely love. I had a G5 and liked the tech behind it, but the feel of the Intellimouse was always much preferred. This is the best of both worlds. Lack of side to side doesn't bother me as I like my scroll wheel to be precise in gaming and side to side motion usually causes it to slip one direction or the other. I just got my Reclusa keyboard in, matches extremely well and a very good keyboard. Best combo I've ever had. |
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PezDSpencer
Apprentice Member
Joined: 6/20/06
If you know the enemy and you know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. |
Does anyone here own both a Razer Copperhead and the Habu?
I'd like other opinions before I buy. --- |
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I returned this mouse the very next day after i bought it. The mouse looks cool and I loved the comfort of it in my hand but there was only one reason why I returned it. It was because of its sensitivity when you pick up the mouse off your table and reposition it to a more comfortable resting position. Basically its laser could track your motion while doing this and before you know it your cursor shoots off to the side of the screen or in a FPS your looking 90degrees to a side in a flash. The only way to avoid the mouse doing this to you was to lift it high enough so the laser couldn't track the movement of the surface and to achive this I had to lift the mouse way higher then normal.
Also if you do multimedia work like working in photoshop, avoid this mouse.
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Great review! :)
I for my part have been using a Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer quite a few years. Now the 'mousewheel-button' wasn't reacting reliably anymore and I decided that if I get a new mouse it could as well be one of these 'gaming thingies'. ;) I'm not a pro-gamer and I'm not too precise with my hands so I went to a store where I could paw them all. :P In the end all those 'ultra sensitive highest end gaming mice' had far too sensitive buttons for my hands ... except for the Habu. Trying the Razer Death Adder, Diamondback, Logitech G5 and a few other gaming mice I always ended up accidently pushing the buttons. In addition to that, as mentioned in the review, the Habu is rather 'bulky' compared to the other gaming mice. I personally like to 'rest' my hand on the mouse. If I need to react quickly in situations that require fast reactions I can still break up the comfortable position, but having something under my hand ... I guess I just got used to that over all the years using the Intellimouse Explorer. Even though I don't have big hands I feel mor comfortable with the Habu than I did with the Death Adder for example. I've been using the Habu for about two weeks now and I'm glad I didn't choose any of the alternatives. :) LLAP! |
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I must be in some way impaired. I do not notice any delay in the response of my Microsoft G7 wireless laser mouse. My only problem is the battery life, as the battery needs to be swapped seemingly once every eight hours of continuous use. It takes about three seconds to swap, but still, it can catch you off-guard, even with the charge indicator. Saerain Tested: 53 titles | Saerain Approved: EVE, VG, LotRO, AoC, SB |
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Godliest
Protector of Cantha
Joined: 11/26/06
"There''s a time and a place for everything, and it''s called college." - Chef |
I use this mouse and I must say I'm very happy with it. I'm not used to having a mouse with such sensitive before, but I learned pretty fast. It works good and I like the shape of the mouse, fits perfectly for my hand. I like some of the features like changing the sensitivity with the use of buttons on the mouse and such. It doesn't weigh very much and it slides perfectly. Not that I'm very critical, but still... |
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xPaladin
Novice Member
Joined: 3/21/06
Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixtura dementiae fuit |
The point about the drivers actually is quite understated. The drivers for this mouse are a complete pain in the ass to figure out, and I haven't been able to install it under XP64. I'm not sure what that means for Vista. Caveat emptor. Also, the drivers and program also take up a bit of resident memory and, while negligible, takes up some processor cycles while in use.
The ergonomics match my hand very well, and I am indeed one of those players who moves his hand to guide the cursor (old school FPS, what can I say). I love that the buttons can be remapped, as i put the DPS switch on the side panel, mainly for FPS games. Overall, it's a good mouse. I don't think the habu dethrones any logitech models past the G5. It is however a decent step forward from the intellimouse. -- xpaladin [MMOz] |
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I can only say the Quality HAS to be superior since I have had the bog standard MS mouse on most of the systems I used for work and they lasted a pretty long time. I bought the Razer Diamondback after the last article here and was sorely disappointed for three reasons; 1. WAY too quick . There just didn't seem to be a middle of the road setting no matter how I tuned it from the windows standard software to the Razer driver software. 2. The Razer mice I looked at including the Diamondback were all a little TOO small for MY hand ;) BUT the main issue was the NO WEIGHT factor, the cable tended to PUSH the mouse around when you parked it and all the ones I saw in the store were pretty much the same. Basically I prefer a heavier mouse that can withstand it's own cable flexing it away from wher I put it. To be honest, how HEAVY can a mouse be? They are not like pushing a BRICK. 3. And the last boils down to the QUALITY I stated at the onset, MS have a pretty decent standard of quality, I know ANY company can have a bad product and maybe MY experience is a one off, but the Razer buttons failed within 2 weeks which I find disturbing. Phantom clicks and not clicking THAT soon? I play MMORPG's and SL, so SPEED isn't so much an issue but accuracy IS usually nice to have AND reliable buttons. After all this I am still using the best mouse I EVER bought, an old MX518 Logitech. It never had any issues with drivers or buttons failing and it has the sexiest look ;) As stated by others, these are just my own opinion. (with a smattering of observations) A "No Life" onliner - average 6 hours per day gaming. The Wiz that Waz |
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why bother?
Im not trying to be rude, but I have both the logitech and the razer copperhead. The logitech was given to me, but that really doesnt matter. What does matter is that the Razer copperhead is one of the best mice on the market. I dont see any reason why one would really want a microsoft branded mouse over the better looking razer one. You really do not need to get any more advanced, because gaming doesnt need ultra sensative mice. Its fine where the razer left off. Why get a microsoft brand mouse when the razers look better, all the microsoft mouse really is, is a rebranded razer with some tweaks. Im not really impressed. The keyboard on the other hand looks promising, but again, there are better looking gaming keyboards out there, even with screens attached to them. If microsoft is trying to go after the gamer this time around, they need to ditch the big white MICROSOFT text they put over everything and style it after the xbox franchise. Just my opinion anyways. Are we freer in America today? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWOW1OKzdNA |
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I have been sold on microsoft mice and keyboards. I have used many many combinations, and I prefer a microsoft natural style keyboard and a microsoft intelimouse shape mouse. Quality stuff, that just doesn't seem to break. Good to see that microsoft is creating some new peripheral product lines.
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i need some advice, soon i will have a new PC, actualy i'm running on a laptop, so i have to buy a keyboard and mouse, but those HAVE to be wireless, cause i dont have a desk and will play from my couch LOL, i'm living in Japan and my appartement is quiete small ;)
My question is does it worth the money to buy a bluethoot set ? Better wireless quality ? Thanks |
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Originally posted by BerungijinWireless is definitely NOT better, Wire FTW! a FPS gamer would never go for a wireless set, but if you're only going to play MMOs a wireless set will do just fine, but i wouldn't recommend it -.- |
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Yeah i know, wire is MUCH better, but i really dont have the choice because of my appart setup, but the question was is bluethoot wireless better ? Does it worth the price ?
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Mentat
Advanced Member
Joined: 11/06/03
"Do ya ever think we will have people on the sun? I mean like, in the winter, when it''s cool" |
A friend of mine was able to get me a deal on one of these babies - just about the time my mouse was crapping out. Not good when your a daily online gamer as I am. Anyway - the install of this mouse is a nightmare - following all the instructions - if my friend hadn't told me of his nightmarish experience with the constant rebooting - uninstalling and reinstalling of software (after the firmware update) I would have given up and thought this mouse is crap. But, after 3 or 4 reboots the software finally recognized my mouse - I mainly wanted to explain for people who maybe purchasing this -have some patience with the install. The mouse works great but, the buttons on the side????????? I hate them - they have almost killed me several times in WoW.... What did I do to remedy the situation? I jerked the removable/swappable side button panel out - unscrewed the plate that holds the button sensors in - removed the mini circut board - and now I'm good to go. Even if you disable the side buttons - if you accidentally are pressing one (as they are right next to where my thumb grips the mouse) it will interfer with other clicks - so basically you will get a non response. Basically Microsoft tried way too hard with this thing... And as nice of a review as the fellow here stated (I'm sure for the free mouse and future free mice he had to be nice) - this mouse is overcomplicated. Basically I like it because well.. I paid for it - and after adjusting it for me - it works well enough.
I do not recommend this mouse - get a logitec.
Microsoft failed me with the Zune (overpriced and too late - Apple wins) and this mouse (overcomplicated - logitech wins)
Stick to operating systems microsoft.
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just stick with razer. Logictech is the second best, though I would never use my wireless logictech mouse (g4 i think) for anything that involves gaming. Razer is where its all coming from and they are worth every penny.
Are we freer in America today? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWOW1OKzdNA |
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Where is the obligatory "I think this product is a piece of crap so that means XYZ company paid you off to give this item a good review!!" post. It just doesn't seem like a MMORPG.com review with out one :(
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