in my opinion i think soe is not half bad and here is the reasons.... i played all their games eq , eq2, planetside, matrix and others and i msut say for a company that control all these games they havent done bad. eq 2 is a great game overall and dont forget it was everquest that set the mmo world flying. now some of there game did flop but let look at truth matrix online was bought from wb so it wasnt a soe prduct from start so that dont count, vanguard also was bought cant blame soe on that . now planetside wasnt half bad for it time, eq 1 was awesome until pop then it went down hill eq 2 is still the best they got and swg well we wont go there ....

so overall i give soe a 7 out of 10

My experience with SOE is limited to SWG. After playing that game for several months, I can honestly say I have no desire to ever purchase an SOE product again. Once bitten, twice shy.

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Originally posted by blackcat35
I voted okay. I know SOE has had problems with the public and there are alot of angry people (mostly from SWG?). CCP from Eve online is worse than SOE IMHO. SOE doesn't actively cheat in their own games, like CCP does...

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Well that probably says more to CCP's immaturity as a mmo developer than anything else. SOE on the other hand was around long enough when SWG came around.

Originally posted by Annekynn

 

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Originally posted by blackcat35
I voted okay. I know SOE has had problems with the public and there are alot of angry people (mostly from SWG?). CCP from Eve online is worse than SOE IMHO. SOE doesn't actively cheat in their own games, like CCP does...

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Well that probably says more to CCP's immaturity as a mmo developer than anything else. SOE on the other hand was around long enough when SWG came around.

They seem to work with a specific formula: design a game that looks great on paper, push it out the door before it's stable and/or polished enough, releasing features and/or expansion packs that the community doesn't want, not listening to their customer base, and having poor customer service in regards to solving issues.

They basically come up with a great game (on paper), screw it up, and then milk it to death.  :(

Originally posted by Invinci_Gal
I don't think SOE is bad really, just poorly managed. I believe the management there doesn't understand the investments and things that are necessary to make a really popular MMO.

SOE tends to put in the minimum effort to make the game acceptable. I think that if one day SOE puts in 110% effort into a MMO, properly tests it and listens to their player base then they'll put out a game that will rival WoW in subscriptions.

I think they've learned a lot from the MMOs they've worked on in the past. Right now they are focused on fixing Vanguard to the point where it can sit on their list of station pass MMOs and maintain itself. Then SOE's next project might really be a contender.

You mean their spy vs. spy FPS MMO? 

Here's hoping...

Originally posted by Annekynn

 

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Originally posted by blackcat35
I voted okay. I know SOE has had problems with the public and there are alot of angry people (mostly from SWG?). CCP from Eve online is worse than SOE IMHO. SOE doesn't actively cheat in their own games, like CCP does...

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Well that probably says more to CCP's immaturity as a mmo developer than anything else. SOE on the other hand was around long enough when SWG came around.

Originally posted by DoomLord
I used to play FFXI and never had a problem with SOE the only reason i don't play it anymore is got 2 charaters with over 14 lvl 75 jobs between them and found that i was just doing the same thing over and over.

Errr... SoE didnt develop FFXI or have anything to do with the developement of FFXI in any way, hehe.