I was a creature handler...they told me I didn't matter when they got rid of it with the NGE...along with several other professions. Screw Star Wars...I don't care if they develop another game...Star Wars, Lucas Arts, and SOE are all dead to me...you do not matter. Quit buying games...you couldn't make or maintain a decent game if you tried. I feel sorry for all Vanguard players.

When I got introduced to SOE as a Matrix Online player I wondered why people hated SOE...yes...now I know.

Originally posted by Mithraw
Please LA & SOE, kill this game and make a new StarWars MMO. It's the greatest universe available for an MMO but the way SWG was handled has made so many people reluctant to go back. New engine, different timeline... it could be so great....

Bioware are developing a new sci-fi MMO rumored to be using the Star Wars IP set in the `old days' of the SW universe (same time period as Knights of the Old Republic), but you're gonna have to wait at least a couple of years for that baby to fly. Who knows what MMO's will be looking like by then...

Originally posted by Raven99

Originally posted by SWGLover

The DEV"s ignore the playerbase?  

 

Maybe they ignore the whiners, otherwise they've been responsive to the fans and have been great at communicating with us.  

 

 

Right they pay attention to what all 300-400 of you? Because the majority of us left for greener pastures a long time ago, because of a galaxy far far away that turned really really gay. This game was supposed to be like the movies during the new hope, empire ,and Return of the Jedi. At first it was it was great, you had to earn the right to be sith/jedi as it should have been, to remain true to the time line.
However like everyone who cares has said SoE ruined the game, and LA let them do it. Those of us who are truly fans of the movies find this game in it's current state to be an abomination plain and simple.
It's not whining its our opinions. Did you even play this game before the change? it was awesome.
Correct me if i'm wrong but the NGE was based on a very small group of test players and the rest of us got the shaft over it.

There thats my rant and i'm sticking to it!

Raven

Heh, it'd be nice if those that left for greener pastures would actually stay there if they're still not happy with the old pasture ;)

I think some things need to be cleared up in this thread:

No, the servers aren't as populated as they once were back during the launch months.  However, they're certainly NOT dead, and for a game that people like to keep saying is "dying" it's doing rather well population wise. 

The only simillarities between Beast Master and Creature Handler is that you control a pet to help you in combat.  The actual details of each are much different.  Beast Master is much more involved and diverse then what creature handler was.  The only real simillarity between BE and Beast Master is that you sample DNA to make the creature, Beast Master however goes much further then that and you have a rather elaborate process that you can (optionally) go through to make a highend pet.  The whole process also involves all the crafting profession, which gives them tools and components to craft that has 2-4 experimentation lines, each affecting the outputted creature in a different way.  So if you want to make a broad statement, yes they brought back CH, but they revamped it significantly.

This chapter really is the equivilent of an expansion.  There is months of content introduced with this chapter, with something for every profession in the game.

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Originally posted by Thor79
I was a creature handler...they told me I didn't matter when they got rid of it with the NGE...along with several other professions. Screw Star Wars...I don't care if they develop another game...Star Wars, Lucas Arts, and SOE are all dead to me...you do not matter. Quit buying games...you couldn't make or maintain a decent game if you tried. I feel sorry for all Vanguard players.

When I got introduced to SOE as a Matrix Online player I wondered why people hated SOE...yes...now I know.

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Technically CH were in Return of the Jedi, big fat bloke who cried cos his Rancor was squashed.

I welcome CH coming back, admittedly it is old functionality but they have tweaked it and made a fair few changes to boot.

Originally posted by alphajonny
After giving it a day with the new BM thing I have to say, yes, it is very complex and nothing like the old Creature handler system.   I prefer the old BE system being seperate though but oh well. 
As for taking CH out of the game before,  It was so horribly broken.  Yeah,  I mastered it, had some fun with it.   After awhile though you realize how very unbalanced and weak it was.  I think right before the CU there was maybe 10 CHs on Bloodfin.  So yeah,  skip it if you think losing CH was a game killer.  I was sad to see it go though.  Glad its back in a way.

Also,  hating on SWG as much as some of you do is unhealthy.  Get over it already.  Dead horse....beating must stop....mushy pile.    Go find something else and play it.  be happy with it.   Play games.  Nobody P**ped in your cornflakes.

let's see...

general discussion

news discussion

subject of thread - star wars galaxies : chapter 6: masters of the wild.

sorry, i don't see where this is on the swg board.

if people intentionally destroy a game you enjoy, and you wish that someone would fix it and make it into the great game it SHOULD have been (there were so many things they should've been focused on fixing other than the cu/nge crap); then people will be upset and hold a grudge about it.  especially if it's something with a long history like star wars.  this should've been one of the HUGE mmos out there.

it's not.

why not?  how many people do you know that play online games and are star wars fans but DON'T play this game?  i know a lot of fans and not a one of them will touch this game with a 10 foot pole.

so how about you whine about people who are dissatisfied with garbage somewhere like, oh yeah, the swg forum?  NOT in the general news forum?

mmmkay, thanks, here's your sign.

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by alphajonny
After giving it a day with the new BM thing I have to say, yes, it is very complex and nothing like the old Creature handler system.   I prefer the old BE system being seperate though but oh well. 
As for taking CH out of the game before,  It was so horribly broken.  Yeah,  I mastered it, had some fun with it.   After awhile though you realize how very unbalanced and weak it was.  I think right before the CU there was maybe 10 CHs on Bloodfin.  So yeah,  skip it if you think losing CH was a game killer.  I was sad to see it go though.  Glad its back in a way.

Also,  hating on SWG as much as some of you do is unhealthy.  Get over it already.  Dead horse....beating must stop....mushy pile.    Go find something else and play it.  be happy with it.   Play games.  Nobody P**ped in your cornflakes.

let's see...

general discussion

news discussion

subject of thread - star wars galaxies : chapter 6: masters of the wild.

 

sorry, i don't see where this is on the swg board.

 

if people intentionally destroy a game you enjoy, and you wish that someone would fix it and make it into the great game it SHOULD have been (there were so many things they should've been focused on fixing other than the cu/nge crap); then people will be upset and hold a grudge about it.  especially if it's something with a long history like star wars.  this should've been one of the HUGE mmos out there.

 

it's not.

 

why not?  how many people do you know that play online games and are star wars fans but DON'T play this game?  i know a lot of fans and not a one of them will touch this game with a 10 foot pole.

 

so how about you whine about people who are dissatisfied with garbage somewhere like, oh yeah, the swg forum?  NOT in the general news forum?

 

mmmkay, thanks, here's your sign.

Originally posted by ronan32

Originally posted by TheChronic

sounds a little stupid to me, taken away what they already had and then reinroducing it hmm

for money..soe is only motivated by money.

They had a far better taming system prior to NGE, this is just big step backwards.

I would avoid playing this week, these devs are notorious for poor patch testing.

   It would not be SOE if it worked right the first 2-3 times. Now now fan boi's dont get to hating that some one wants to speek truth about Sony even you know its true. I am just varry happy they did this before there free time was up. I was begining to feel sheepish and silly that I was going to have to say that NGE was not realy the devil and turned out to not be a bad game. Then this pub came down the pike and saved me from eating crow.

    Perhaps they will merge the servers as scylla is a ghost town from 9 am to 3 pm eastern time i saw 3 other people but they where LD logging out from the party at nymms. When i go back to night from 8pm to 2 am i will probly see 2-3 more people. Making the game need groups is not a bad move if you have people to make groups. From where im siting the real issue still remins the same as always    a lack of forsight again caused player made things to unbalance the game so once again change the game rather then do away with the ablity to let players unbalance the game with player made items.

<Mod edit>if you think this new CH. offers months of new gamplay for everyone. I am a Imp, and the only thing new is the Azure Cabal quest. I've already finished it and the CH. hit on tuesday. All their is to do now is repeat missions, that onlt give out like 450 xp, a few hundred azure faction and a couple thousand in credits. I tried out BM on TC and it was to clumsy and boring of a system. All they needed to do was bring back the old CH system. It was much funner to go out into the wild and tame a baby, that hatch the fricken thing.
The only positive thing that has happened is the raised difficulty in combat. Honestly who knows how long that will last though. The freakin game is full of cry ass babies whiners who want to solo every fricken thing in the game. It's very hard to not be negative about SWG, it really is, but when the game was 95% funner and just out right better, what can anyone say.

Originally posted by Cpt.Stubbing
 I still have all my pets from my ex MASTER CH b4 the GC. Wonder if they will work now.  Ya know...with the NEW creature handler/beast master thing.

Originally posted by musicmann

Obraik, you are on crack, if you think this new CH. offers months of new gamplay for everyone. I am a Imp, and the only thing new is the Azure Cabal quest. I've already finished it and the CH. hit on tuesday. All their is to do now is repeat missions, that onlt give out like 450 xp, a few hundred azure faction and a couple thousand in credits. I tried out BM on TC and it was to clumsy  and boring of a system. All they needed to do was bring back the old CH system. It was much funner to go out into the wild and tame a baby, that hatch the fricken thing.

The only positive thing that has happened is the raised difficulty in combat. Honestly who knows how long that will last though. The freakin game is full of cry ass babies whiners who want to solo every fricken thing in the game. It's very hard to not be negative about SWG, it really is, but when the game was 95% funner and just out right better, what can anyone say.

Done the treasure maps yet?

The thing with BM is that you don't have to make the pet if you don't want to.  If you prefer to do just the handling part then you can have someone else make the egg for you that enjoys that part of it.

The entire point was it was quite a challenge to find a baby and then successfully tame it, some of the rarer creatures were quite an achievement to acquire.

This new method has zero challenge to it.  Why even bother?  Just another example of how dumbed down the game is now.  My subscription runs out in a week and I will not renew it. 

Originally posted by Ciredric

The entire point was it was quite a challenge to find a baby and then successfully tame it, some of the rarer creatures were quite an achievement to acquire.

This new method has zero challenge to it.  Why even bother?  Just another example of how dumbed down the game is now.  My subscription runs out in a week and I will not renew it. 

I feel like linking SWGCreatures website just to show people what creature handlers could do. And in reply did you have any idea how bio engineers worked?

Originally posted by Obraik

Originally posted by Ciredric

The entire point was it was quite a challenge to find a baby and then successfully tame it, some of the rarer creatures were quite an achievement to acquire.

This new method has zero challenge to it.  Why even bother?  Just another example of how dumbed down the game is now.  My subscription runs out in a week and I will not renew it. 

Likewise with this system.  There are many rare creatures that you can only get through mutations which people are still trying to figure out how to achieve.

Seriously, Obraik, it just seems that all they did was mash creature handler and bio-engineer together into a skill tree to make both sets of people that played the original classes happy and they should have added another 15 skill points for everyone, because 45 just plain is not enough for three skill trees.  I also don't think it goes far enough to satisfy bio-engineers and I do think its too complex and takes too long for people that were creature handlers.  So I don't think they did it well enough, but thats just my feeling about it. 

Also about your comment regarding the worlds not being so empty, I have been playing the trial on Ahazi where my main SWG characters are in an indefinant limbo state since about 3 months after the NGE, but the only populated spots at any hour i'm logging in is the cantina at Mos Eisley and Theed, other than that, I can travel for long long long periods of time without seeing another soul.  I created an entertainer and took 2 days to macro up to level 90 so I could check EVERYTHING out and thats the way I found Ahazi.  Its nothing but a sea of buildings all labled "Abandoned" now.