Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

 

Originally posted by boojiboy

You are incorrect and two things I believe.  Number #1, the Riftway system has virtually eliminated travel time.....  10 minutes max anywhere you want to go.... not two hours as you assert.  #2  I'm level 34 and there in undoutably MORE content availble to me than before.  So far the problem has been outleveling content before I've had a chance to explore it all.  There are some chunks without quest content filled it yet, but these are places that a lvl 35 can't go to yet.  A comparison to LOTRO is also irrelevant because it is so small in comparison. 

   They added a teleporation system beyond the teleporters at Khal, New Targ and Kojan? Nice. They didn't have it when I left though, which was a little less than a month ago.  

They must have added more quest content then as well, since I found that there were few solo quests for 30+. Even if they added more, LOTRO has much more content for the single character player and the world is not that much smaller (maybe 5/9 the size).

If you really want to prove to me that VG has more quest conent than WoW, or LOTR, then you should provide a list of all of the accessible quests from 1-50, because the content really dips off at 20.

 

Yes, the Rift network is a god-send, especially for people like me who only have small time segments to play.  I got from Leth Nurae to Angram in 7 minutes last night :)

I've just moved into my 30s, so I don't know what existed or didn't exist a month or two ago.  But I'll give two great examples of soloable quest lines.  I love to solo, most of the time I just prefer to do my own thing and go afk whenever I feel like it to watch TV or play with my son. 

1) Falgahorn has multiple solo quest lines.  Some are 1 or 2 parts and at least one I'm on the 6th or 7th step.  They start by the Northern Border wall and continue on towards the NW.    At lvl 30, there is probably 2 levels worth of experience in these lines.  There is a drake line, a monument exploration line and another line that I think leads to Dargun's Tomb eventually.

2) Southwatch also has multiple solo quest lines not including the missives.  If you include the missives it is GREAT solo expience.  Missives upon completion, usually yield 38,000 experience each.  Nice bumps.  Not including missives, you can pick up a number of solo quests in and around Southwatch.  Slay the Silvertalon Pride is a specific example that I finished solo... it's 5-6 steps, huge exp and even includes the opportunity to fly a griffon (as long as you stay in the chunk you have complete control over the creature).... but you don't get to keep it.  There must be 2 levels of experience here too.

3) Wardship of the Sleeping Moon.  This zone is always full of lvl 30s, personally, I've only completed a few.

In summary, if you want to solo (and I do), pick a great solo class like mine... Psionicist.  Check out VG Wiki's for lvl appropriate quests, you'll find more than you can possibly complete before you out-level the area.  Also, with a good solo class, you can easily do many 'group' quest that are white and red color.

Originally posted by boojiboy

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

If you really want to prove to me that VG has more quest conent than WoW, or LOTR, then you should provide a list of all of the accessible quests from 1-50, because the content really dips off at 20.

In summary, if you want to solo (and I do), pick a great solo class like mine... Psionicist.  Check out VG Wiki's for lvl appropriate quests, you'll find more than you can possibly complete before you out-level the area.  Also, with a good solo class, you can easily do many group' quest that are white and red color.

I think the change as you suggested is two-fold.  There are many more quests than there were a couple months ago (many of which are solo-friendly) and I gotta believe soloing would be a tough chore in a PvP environment.  Never tried it, don't know.

With regard to class selection, they have definitely made the druid more solo friendly than at launch.  I can say I've played 3 classes at 30+ (druid, necro and Psi).  All good soloers, but in my opinion Psi is still the best.

Originally posted by boojiboy

I gotta believe soloing would be a tough chore in a PvP environment.  Never tried it, don't know.

Originally posted by Zorgo

Perhaps you will be pleased to know that with a lvl 30 toon I have yet to find a lvl range that doesn't have multiple soloable quest lines. Although I am able to find groups everytime I play, the times I have chosen to solo, I have never had a lack of content. In fact, my quest journal is always full, to the point that I have to delete quests I know I will end up grabbing again and doing later, just to make room for the ones I want to do now.

The lack of content is mostly an issue for the end game atm, which I will admit I haven't seen yet. But, I am the target audience for this game (old mmo gamer, 2-3 hours a night, maybe more on weekends, looking for a different type of challenge from Wow/LotR), and it seems to me that they have kept just ahead of my leveling curve for the additional content. Therefore, I (the target demographic) will not experience a lack of soloable content in this game.

In fact, I'm so sure about my wild accusations that I will boldy predict based solely on my own personal experience with Vanguard that if one started a character today, played it 2 to 3 hours a night with maybe a weekend cram session every once in awhile, you could solo to 50 in Vanguard at this point.

You may have to travel around, talk to other players on various continents about where stuff is, but it is out there. It first was a challenge for me at lower levels but eventually I started to understand Vanguards' world and how the content is organized and began asking and sharing info with other players about their hunting grounds or quest lines they were working on.

But to the original point, I will fully admit the cherry quests and rewards are group based, and pesonally I like that. If I'm going to be in an mmorpg, I want my experience to be dependent on acting in concert with massive amounts of multiple players. To me, that's what makes it a mmorpg and not a solo-orpg.

The last point is...world isn't too tough to get around anymore, partly once you learn how the content is organized, partly because your travel times decrease based on progressively better mounts and carefully structured bind points and faction build ups.....

..... but mostly because the have porting stones now.

Originally posted by alyndale
Better tweak that solo content!


OMG..NO!

Not solo content...

That means casual gamers can play.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....

LOL....

It's a misconception that solo = casual.

I consider myself a hardcore soloer. Old school EQ1 was a good example of a game that was challenging to solo in, mainly druids or necros were the solo classes, but the game was solo friendly for those two classes and offered plenty of content.

Originally posted by Samuraisword

I consider myself a hardcore soloer.