Originally posted by Orphes

umm you may want to invest in spellcheck or hooked on phonics.  Your whole premise about how great VG will be is based on people getting better computers is priceless.  Oh and hate to break your fanboy heart but come around "October'ish" Warhammer and Conan will be out :(

But plz do not quit posting like you have been and for God sakes man make those screen shots bigger! It's really making you out to look like a Vanguard Genius!!

Ok you was fast correcting your 'wil' into 'will' so lets go for misspeling one if the easiest word to spell.
But c'mon you think you come out any different then the other guy, rabiant bashing everything you can see and get hold of.

Originally posted by Kraenee

Originally posted by Orphes

umm you may want to invest in spellcheck or hooked on phonics.  Your whole premise about how great VG will be is based on people getting better computers is priceless.  Oh and hate to break your fanboy heart but come around "October'ish" Warhammer and Conan will be out :(

But plz do not quit posting like you have been and for God sakes man make those screen shots bigger! It's really making you out to look like a Vanguard Genius!!

Ok you was fast correcting your 'wil' into 'will' so lets go for misspeling one if the easiest word to spell.
But c'mon you think you come out any different then the other guy, rabiant bashing everything you can see and get hold of.

Here let me help you out.

Ok you was were fast at correcting your 'wil' into 'will' so lets go for misspeling misspelling one if the easiest word to spell.
But c'mon you think you come out any different then the other guy, rabiant? (not a known word) bashing everything you can see and get hold of.

And the fanboys like him don't bash those of us that are not happy with the game?

Originally posted by Kraenee
The guy with the screenshots cracks me up. He really thinks they look good lol.

Can you imagine this fanboy cropping and editing the shots to prove how great the game is. Cracks me up.

All I know is if I come up with a crappy game I hope he plays it and posts his ass off on the forums about how great I am lmao!

I bet he was one of the D&L boys as well

NO...  I've been playing these game since their inception. Back when the internet was pay by the hour. I have beta tested some 14 MMORPG's and played even a few more. Certain games I've acheived elite status, other games i just ran around like an asshat enjoying and having fun within the game.

Very few monumental games come out. EQ was one of them, Vanguard is the next.  Everquest took stodgy 3d isometric games like UO and broaght it into  true 3 dimensional landscape and environment. WoW, is nothing more than a different theme on a current platform. If you pklayed Everquest, Dark Age of Camelot, then you've played WoW. Blizzard, didn't invent anything, just brought their franchise into the MMORPG market using current features from existing games. Dumed down the requirments and made things easier as to attract new customers instead of current ones.

Vanguard is above that. It added aspects missing in other MMORPG's and layed out a game world, with freeform adventure. No bottlenecks, no choke-oints, no direction. A vague world where you figure it out, where you alone determine what your going to do. Boats, housing, Mounts, Diplomacy, enormous dungeons.... I mean friggn HUGE!.

LOTR bring nothing new to the table..... thus without even playing it we veterans can say "Been there, done that". LOTR is nothing more than DOAC with a Tolkieness theme. Granted, i have bought the game and will play it for a few months. Only becuase I started reading the books back in the 70's and have layed in bed dreaming about middel-earth throught my childhood.  Yet, as the game stands now....

..it has no sustainability. Just like D&D Online had no sustainability.  It nice graphics and pipe smoking... but it's all fluff.

Read my post history on Dark & Light.  I called it a flop 3 month before they released the game.

The problem i have is that people are hating on VG, but lieing to do it..!  Most, if not all of the tards complaining about VG own sub-par computers. So a majority of their complaints stem from the fact they couldn't have an enjoyable experience with VG because it requires a lofty PC spec.

Hey Fong Tsai, I encourage you to continue to post your screenies.  Any sucker who buys the game based on them will quickly find out that they will probably not be able to make the game look as good.  In fact, most of them will have to turn the settings down so low that trees will start looking like something out of runescape.  At that point the rage will set in and a new hater will be born.

What I would like to see from you and your 'lofty' pc is a pic with the same settings and the FPS counter up, taken in a crowded setting.  It would be preferable to see a shot in town at the mailbox or broker, perhaps you could hit up Tursh real fast.  I bet my bottom dollar that all the talk about the improvements of late is all lies and exaggeration and you will not be able to show me a decent FPS.

Hey man, whats up with your guild  Ascension, half your peeps haven't played in over 2 weeks?  I thought this game was getting better and better?

Originally posted by Zvorak

Originally posted by Cymdai

I can understand the sentiment related to the anti-SOE perspective, really I can. But I just want to ask, could they REALLY do much worse than Sigil already has?

Honestly. Vanguard was an MMO miscarriage; it was dead before it even was born. Sigil and Brad over-hyped the game, and prematurely released an inferior product that has crashed and burned. Hardware issues, performance problems, the continual swinging of the nerf bat (BEFORE fixing functionality issues too, might I add). Sigil and co. have proven they have most definitely NOT got the talent to make it in this industry, and if we're all lucky, anyone and everyone associated with this project will never work in the business again.

At least with SOE, they have a budget. They can afford to stream in new content, and pay new programmers to work on fixing the game. They specialize in purchasing dead/dying games, and trying to turn them around. I don't believe VG will ever succeed, but maybe they could at least offer it some redemption.

I hope SOE acquires the product; humble Brad and his big mouth once and for all. Let the McQuaid fanboi's realize he's not some noble, dignified visionary, but just another guy trying to make a buck. If nothing else, SOE can at least give the dead horse a proper burial.

Best of luck to SOE, hopefully you can salvage something from the train wreck that is Vanguard.

 

Spoken like a true newbie...  You were 13 years old when I was beta testing Everquest. There warn't games like Oblivion, Never Winter Nights, there was no Battlefield or Halo...

Everquest was the vision of Brad McQuaid. And the sole reason why you started playing WoW in highschool. Everquest was such a HUGE success that other companies saw what returning revenues in the form of a monthly subscription can do. Everquest didn't advertise, it was word of mouth. And only people who had internet could play back then. You wouldn't know because you just started playing these types of games. The exact same why you wouldn't know about VG, because you don't play it.

You speak so awfully of VG it makess me wonder where you get such comments. What performance "problems"..? What Hardware issues..?  Why would Sigil be in trouble..?  Even at the naysayers 70k subs, Sigil is still pulling in $980,000/month.  When you grow up and graduate to a High-Fantasy MMORPG, you'll understand the premiss of VG, and not the arcade aspect of WoW.

VG is based off high fantasy novel that inspired us all when we were kids. ie. Sword of Shannarra, Betrayal at Krondor, Dragonlance...etc. WoW is based off an RTS.

-Zvorak

Originally posted by Zvorak

Vanguard is above that. It added aspects missing in other MMORPG's and layed out a game world, with freeform adventure. No bottlenecks, no choke-oints, no direction. A vague world where you figure it out, where you alone determine what your going to do. Boats, housing, Mounts, Diplomacy, enormous dungeons.... I mean friggn HUGE!.

LOTR bring nothing new to the table..... thus without even playing it we veterans can say "Been there, done that". LOTR is nothing more than DOAC with a Tolkieness theme. Granted, i have bought the game and will play it for a few months. Only becuase I started reading the books back in the 70's and have layed in bed dreaming about middel-earth throught my childhood.  Yet, as the game stands now....

..it has no sustainability. Just like D&D Online had no sustainability.  It nice graphics and pipe smoking... but it's all fluff.

 

Read my post history on Dark & Light.  I called it a flop 3 month before they released the game.

 

The problem i have is that people are hating on VG, but lieing to do it..!  Most, if not all of the tards complaining about VG own sub-par computers. So a majority of their complaints stem from the fact they couldn't have an enjoyable experience with VG because it requires a lofty PC spec.

Originally posted by KairBare
Narrator: In A.D. 2007, war was beginning.
Captain Brad: What happen?
VGplayer: Somebeody set up us the bomb.
Vanboy: We get signal.
Captain Brad: What !
Vanboy: Main screen turn on.
Captain Brad: It's you !!
SOE: How are you gentlemen !!
SOE: All your games are belong to us.
SOE: You are on the way to bankruptcy.
Captain Brad: What you say !!
SOE: You have no chance to survive make your time
SOE: Ha Ha Ha Ha ....
Vanboy: Captain Brad !!
Captain Brad: Take off every Dev !!
Captain Brad: You know what you doing.
Captain Brad: Move Dev.
Captain Brad: For great justice.

This "rumor" may be much more than a rumor after all.

Aradune Speaks Regarding SOE/Vanguard A new forum has appeared on SOE's tech support forums for Vanguard designed to allow a place for SOE/Vanguard discussion. While not exceptionally revealing right now, Aradune opened the forum promising more info regarding the recent rumors of SOE's purchase of Vanguard and/or Sigil soon: Quote: Originally Posted by Aradune Mithara It's all ultimately good news, but complicated enough to justify one of my verbose postings I should have my first Sigil/Vanguard update up tomorrow and then look for regular updates as to the future of the game here and on the affiliate sites (probably weekly or so, depending on what's going on). I will post here first and then immediately copy the post to a set of the Vanguard affiliate sites. thanks, -Brad Check out the post here. __________________ Web Developer - Silky Venom nolaquen@silkyvenom.com Last edited by Nólaquen : Today at 04:45 AM.

If you can read between the lines and were around when Brad ditched EQ...this looks like more of the same.   Should be interesting.

Originally posted by Cymdai

Originally posted by Zvorak

Vanguard is above that. It added aspects missing in other MMORPG's and layed out a game world, with freeform adventure. No bottlenecks, no choke-oints, no direction. A vague world where you figure it out, where you alone determine what your going to do. Boats, housing, Mounts, Diplomacy, enormous dungeons.... I mean friggn HUGE!.

LOTR bring nothing new to the table..... thus without even playing it we veterans can say "Been there, done that". LOTR is nothing more than DOAC with a Tolkieness theme. Granted, i have bought the game and will play it for a few months. Only becuase I started reading the books back in the 70's and have layed in bed dreaming about middel-earth throught my childhood.  Yet, as the game stands now....

..it has no sustainability. Just like D&D Online had no sustainability.  It nice graphics and pipe smoking... but it's all fluff.

 

Read my post history on Dark & Light.  I called it a flop 3 month before they released the game.

 

The problem i have is that people are hating on VG, but lieing to do it..!  Most, if not all of the tards complaining about VG own sub-par computers. So a majority of their complaints stem from the fact they couldn't have an enjoyable experience with VG because it requires a lofty PC spec.

You're officially a hypocrite. You've condemned people throughout the topic for complaining about VG after having only played it for a month, yet you're complaining about LOtRO after having never even played it at all.

So what I've gathered from you and Yarisagos is that Vanguard fans generally are hypocrites who stem all of VG's problems to "tards owning sub-par computers".

I think I'm finished with this topic.

Ladies and gentlemen, ask yourself, when one of the biggest haters of a particullar game on a website dedicated to online games is a staff writer, how unbiased is the site?

I've said it once and I'll say it again.  No matter how large you make the disclaimer at the bottom of your posts, having an employee of a website posting his opinion, either negetive or positive, on a game is unprofessional. 

KIDS, read this site and the things you write.  Impressionable, and easily influenced, Kids that can be guided away from or towards a game by a staff writer.

Ever heard of the term "mob mentality".  Could you imagine what having the words "staff writer" under your name could impress upon people when you express your view on a topic.  No disclaimer is going to make the title staff writer disapear.

You should try posting under an anonymous name.  The only VG hater that truelly pisses me off is the one that WORKS for the website they are posting negetivety on.

I don't get PAID to write so I apologize for the gramatical errors.

PS: I'm wondering how proffesional it is for a staff writer to call someone a hypocrit on the website they work for.

Originally posted by fariic1

Ladies and gentlemen, ask yourself, when one of the biggest haters of a particullar game on a website dedicated to online games is a staff writer, how unbiased is the site?

I've said it once and I'll say it again.  No matter how large you make the disclaimer at the bottom of your posts, having an employee of a website posting his opinion, either negetive or positive, on a game is unprofessional. 

KIDS, read this site and the things you write.  Impressionable, and easily influenced, Kids that can be guided away from or towards a game by a staff writer.

Ever heard of the term "mob mentality".  Could you imagine what having the words "staff writer" under your name could impress upon people when you express your view on a topic.  No disclaimer is going to make the title staff writer disapear.

You should try posting under an anonymous name.  The only VG hater that truelly pisses me off is the one that WORKS for the website they are posting negetivety on.

I don't get PAID to write so I apologize for the gramatical errors.

PS: I'm wondering how proffesional it is for a staff writer to call someone a hypocrit on the website they work for.

Originally posted by Cymdai

Originally posted by fariic1

Ladies and gentlemen, ask yourself, when one of the biggest haters of a particullar game on a website dedicated to online games is a staff writer, how unbiased is the site?

I've said it once and I'll say it again.  No matter how large you make the disclaimer at the bottom of your posts, having an employee of a website posting his opinion, either negetive or positive, on a game is unprofessional. 

KIDS, read this site and the things you write.  Impressionable, and easily influenced, Kids that can be guided away from or towards a game by a staff writer.

Ever heard of the term "mob mentality".  Could you imagine what having the words "staff writer" under your name could impress upon people when you express your view on a topic.  No disclaimer is going to make the title staff writer disapear.

You should try posting under an anonymous name.  The only VG hater that truelly pisses me off is the one that WORKS for the website they are posting negetivety on.

I don't get PAID to write so I apologize for the gramatical errors.

PS: I'm wondering how proffesional it is for a staff writer to call someone a hypocrit on the website they work for.

 
I believe myself, and the management have stated their opinion on this matter once before. I'm sorry you feel the need to necro matters which have already been discussed in order to try and discredit both myself and the website.

However, it's like my quote says. My job is to write objective reviews and such, but outside of my job, I'm open to freely express my opinion. It's unfortunate that you are so adamantly against this, but it's not going to change the fact that I can, and will continue to post on this site.

I'm not saying you shouldn't post.  Hate the game that's cool.

I'm saying it's more professional, regardless of what the people that operate the site post on the topic, to post with an anonymous name that doesn't have the words staff writer directly under it.

Do you really think I'm the only adult that sees the staff writers posting thier negetivety over a game under thier site name and things, "geez, these guys can't really be serious about being objective."? 

Being grounded in reality I would have to imagine that game companies find this sort of thing discouraging as well.  I know I would be weary of a site with employees bashing my product.

Cymdai dont sweat this fool.  I think its better that you post as who you are rather than make a 'sekret' account to post your opinions.  Fariic1 just wants this site to be like every other game review mag/site out there, a bunch of whores who pass out 9/10 reviews and basically advertise for the game in exchange for access.  The only reason I come here is because I know that I will get straight talk on the front page instead of some bs review by some pathetic nerd who needs access to the devs, and the associated page hits that will bring him.

MMORPG.COM knows crap when they see it!

Originally posted by Cymdai

Originally posted by fariic1

Ladies and gentlemen, ask yourself, when one of the biggest haters of a particullar game on a website dedicated to online games is a staff writer, how unbiased is the site?

I've said it once and I'll say it again.  No matter how large you make the disclaimer at the bottom of your posts, having an employee of a website posting his opinion, either negetive or positive, on a game is unprofessional. 

KIDS, read this site and the things you write.  Impressionable, and easily influenced, Kids that can be guided away from or towards a game by a staff writer.

Ever heard of the term "mob mentality".  Could you imagine what having the words "staff writer" under your name could impress upon people when you express your view on a topic.  No disclaimer is going to make the title staff writer disapear.

You should try posting under an anonymous name.  The only VG hater that truelly pisses me off is the one that WORKS for the website they are posting negetivety on.

I don't get PAID to write so I apologize for the gramatical errors.

PS: I'm wondering how proffesional it is for a staff writer to call someone a hypocrit on the website they work for.

 
I believe myself, and the management have stated their opinion on this matter once before. I'm sorry you feel the need to necro matters which have already been discussed in order to try and discredit both myself and the website.

However, it's like my quote says. My job is to write objective reviews and such, but outside of my job, I'm open to freely express my opinion. It's unfortunate that you are so adamantly against this, but it's not going to change the fact that I can, and will continue to post on this site.

Originally posted by KairBare

Cymdai dont sweat this fool.  I think its better that you post as who you are rather than make a 'sekret' account to post your opinions.  Fariic1 just wants this site to be like every other game review mag/site out there, a bunch of whores who pass out 9/10 reviews and basically advertise for the game in exchange for access.  The only reason I come here is because I know that I will get straight talk on the front page instead of some bs review by some pathetic nerd who needs access to the devs, and the associated page hits that will bring him.

MMORPG.COM knows crap when they see it!

Cymdai, the last line of this post is a fine example of why employees of a website that is supposed to be objective should not post opinion under thier site name, and should instead use anonymous psuedonyms.

Guy, this is the only review site I check on a daily basis, and enjoy for thier unbiased and objective articles for the past 3 years.  Money is made off of game companies that pay to advertise on this site.  What message does it send them when employees of that site post on a regular bases thier dislike and opinion that people shouldn't play a particular game?

I don't have to get paid to be objective to have an opinion, and I'm of the opinion that you preserve proffesionalism on your site when you'r employees don't post thier opinion under thier work name.  Newspapers have editorial sections so that thier employees have the oportunity to make thier opinion heard; they don't write it in the opinions section.  It's called journalistic integrety.  It's something I expect from any news site, regradless of the sort of news they write, but that's just me and my opinion.

Back to the add thing.  More hits translates to better oportunities for selling add space at a higher rate.  Considering this is possibly the most hostile site for fans of VG you'd think an effort would be made to make it less hostile to encourage more fans of the game to load this site on a more regular basis resulting in more hits to the site.  As it currently stands, this site dedicates resources to maintaning a forum for people to simply spread negetivety, and potentially drive fans of the game away from this site.  Kind of the  counter to a sucessfull business model I would think, and possibly why other sites don't allow thier employees to post thier opinion under thier employee site name.  Don't believe those sites have so much trouble with viruses and don't rely on the same few adds week after week, and instead have higher demand for add space.

Just saying, my opinion if I'm running a business and trying to make money I would do what I could to encourage the people that are going to make me the money to come to my site; not discourage.

Originally posted by Orphes

Originally posted by Cymdai

Originally posted by fariic1

Ladies and gentlemen, ask yourself, when one of the biggest haters of a particullar game on a website dedicated to online games is a staff writer, how unbiased is the site?

I've said it once and I'll say it again.  No matter how large you make the disclaimer at the bottom of your posts, having an employee of a website posting his opinion, either negetive or positive, on a game is unprofessional. 

KIDS, read this site and the things you write.  Impressionable, and easily influenced, Kids that can be guided away from or towards a game by a staff writer.

Ever heard of the term "mob mentality".  Could you imagine what having the words "staff writer" under your name could impress upon people when you express your view on a topic.  No disclaimer is going to make the title staff writer disapear.

You should try posting under an anonymous name.  The only VG hater that truelly pisses me off is the one that WORKS for the website they are posting negetivety on.

I don't get PAID to write so I apologize for the gramatical errors.

PS: I'm wondering how proffesional it is for a staff writer to call someone a hypocrit on the website they work for.

 
I believe myself, and the management have stated their opinion on this matter once before. I'm sorry you feel the need to necro matters which have already been discussed in order to try and discredit both myself and the website.

However, it's like my quote says. My job is to write objective reviews and such, but outside of my job, I'm open to freely express my opinion. It's unfortunate that you are so adamantly against this, but it's not going to change the fact that I can, and will continue to post on this site.

But it doesn't work that way. Does it really.

I have this example helping a customer. She was outside and it was raining and she had to sign a receipt. I took up a package belonging to another customer and nicele smiling saying use this to write on so you won't destroy your receipt. I was thinking I was kind to the customer.

But. When she was done she asked me. If it was another customer and if it was my package would you have done the same. Putting out my package in the rain like that, smiling?

Sure you have the right to express your opinion, ofcourse. But honestly thinking that it doesnt affect mmorpg.com is being a bit to innocent. Maybe the affect is small maybe it is bigger in the end. But you are a staff writer representing a site discouraging potential customers from a game nomatter what it says in your signature you represent the site as long you can be connected to it.

Official figures name them who ever they are, are always public even when they get drunk and screamin, yelling puking in the local pub. They are always representative for someone/something. No I do not want to see McDonalds personall picking their nose, scratching their crutch before they start to work.

So yeah, are there any company around reading your post thinking, uhm, ok can we expect that trietment to from this sites staff. Will it matter I don't now. But that disclaimer if that makes you think you actually can express your opinion blatently, unlikely.