Developers Corner

Originally posted by paulscott
have you made a "hello world" program yet?

There is a very easy reply to this thread..

...you don't.

You won't make an MMORPG without programming knowledge..
You won't make an MMORPG without propper planning and gamedesign.. (no your list isn't a game design)
You won't make an MMORPG without knowing what issues you will encounter..

And you will definitely not get someone else to make an MMORPG for you without those prerequisites.

You should forget all about games and start learning a programming language..
Then when you feel proficent with a language like C++, C#, Java or which-ever you choose then you might try to make a game.. pong a good starting point.

When you know what you are talking about, you have good programming experience and feel able to actually lead a development team then you might consider to start and make a bigger game and even then it would probbably be a bad idea to make something as big as an mmorpg.

Originally posted by BurstDemon

• It has to be 3D cuase all fun games are 3D
  

Originally posted by elvenangel

Originally posted by portallzaine

/sigh

 

once again... go to www.realmcrafter.com

its a user friendly program that does NOT require scritping knowledge or any C++ or whathaveyou. naturally, to customize your game you will have to learn some scripting but the models and terrain and such that they include with the program is plent for getting some ideas out of your head and into a game setting. super simple to use. just go look for yourselves. sure its not super high end but im sure it could serve its purpose as a peice of blank canvas to start the sketch of your masterpiece =)

I guess if you want a game thats fairly generic you'd use this tool.    Not that is a bad tool its definitly a good start to get your ideas down but if you really want to create something 'robust' you need to learn to program and script outside of what the basics of realmcrafter can do.

Not so generic, unless you are a generic developer. Currently for RC1 the Pro version is released so for BlitzBasic programmers it really all comes down to your skill. RC2 is still being ported fully to C++ so for C++ programmers it is up to their skill once RC2 Pro is released. Additionally, after RC2 is released, they will be working on a seamless zoning system so it is not as limited as many are lead to believe, especially now since the old b3d code has been dumped for a full C++ source (client & server). I will say though, it's not a brainless system, it is fairly complicated to actually work with and especially to make your own unique project, but that is true with any system. I think their sales pitch on being so easy actually degrades the seriousness of the middleware package, not everyone wants to hear "it's so easy even a caveman can do it", but it's seems easy enough to work with, however, yet open enough to basically do anything you want if you actually have such skills to do so.

Originally posted by cupertino

Like programming pac-man or space invaders for the first time is a walk over.  gesh. MMO takes years and a teams of 50+ ppl to make even a crap MMO.

MMOs don't necessarily have to have great teams of 50-100+ developers. These teams that do, are more than likely making their own engines, tools, etc. It's very likely for even 1 programmer and 1 designer to create a demo in order to bring in more team members to finish out the actual MMO. Just have to be smart about it and set a reality point, like you aren't going to expect to make your own engine from scratch if you are a very small team (hell most professional companies just go license out the Unreal Engine, nowadays), not to mention needing to master Client To Server communication.. just too much work for a non-professional group of indy developers that want to complete a MMO within 3-4 years.

I for one have learned to rely on libraries, as a starter and aspiring professional.

So in other words, take my advice.. don't start at the lowest form of coding.. Win32 C++ with DirectX. It sounds fun... but it just not fun to start out with, without no prior programming experience.

I'm still very new to programing and just been learning to program but I would suggest for fun would be to go to http://www.riemers.net/eng/Tutorials/dxcsharp.php after downloading Visual c# 2005 edition and i think something else, not sure, and try out those tutorials.  Theirs 3 great tutorials to help u understand key elements for Visual C# programming. 

Just to see how it all works, I went through all 3 very quick to get a quick concept and see how all the code connected and worked together. 

After seeing what it can do, I'de work on doing the terrain tutorial over and over till you start to understand how it works.  Just keep going over it each time till you start doing it by memory.  Then looking at the code, try making your own terrain.  Then just pop onto the others tutorials and do the same thing, going over older parts now and then to keep it fresh in your mind. 

With alot of effort and more studying, you could have a 3D character walking around on your terrain that can go up to a tree model, swing an axe, and with a 3d tree with animations, have it cut down with 1 swing with collision detection lol. 

I got my school laptop taken away for making myself an administrator so i'll have to get all my tutorials back and work onto my home computer and start over, refresh my mind again lol.

I think MMO's have reached their peak. It's just my opinion and everyone has one. So unless you have something that will completely change multiplayer games, I think it is a waste of time.