Originally posted by Strayko
Or you can play a PVP enforced server where you can kill as much as you want.
That you can get banned for pking on PVP servers is very logical, considering that there's almost no protection zone at all.
PvP can be done everywhere.

Originally posted by Atomy
Its about the community and"the freedom, in this game you have things like legends. Famous guilds, PvP skills (which actually make a difference). Since that one guy start telling about ,that the game ain't unique. I mean Tibia goes back to '97, doesn't that make it original?. I played over atleast 80+ mmorpg's, and i done tibia over six years with breaks. In the breaks i done all those simple games like your famous "W0W". I mean, if you don't add friends to your friendlist you will probably never see them again) for example. Most people also need fancy graphics to get entertained. Besides the game doesn't have a exp lock either. The highest level at the moment is if i am right, a Lv.334 Elder druid. Anyway it comes down to this, the reason not many people play this ( I mean 60,000 player online ain't much these days for a mmorpg). Is because people blow off the game before they even really tried it. Besides the words care bears is unknown in tibia. So stop flaming the game, and don't get cocky over bad graphics. And the music? trust me you don't miss it.

Strayko you are totaly right ! tibia makes just fun if you have much friens than its just an uber game
 too all who disagree to tibia :seems like you just played to lvl 4 or something and stopped hehe play till lvl 30 or something and you will love that game

i got a lvl 60 rp and a 45 ed  my bro is lvl 99 (1 lvl to 100 ) and got friens with lvl 100-160 :3  (yes we got a real life ) its just fun to meet with friends and hunt in a group and killing strong monsters :D and we are in a war thats so cool

and yes i played another mmorpg (WoW) but i stopped playing it cause i cant find a better game than tibia

ps: Strayko what world are you playing on?

to the one who think you can be called S3ph!r0s or whatever i never seen one who talk like this play the game before you say its shi*t and not just till lvl 4

ok!? what u think about this.  A game wher u can PK 99% of the whole games lanscape, and lose pretty much when u die, and ppl just pk and pk and pk and pk with out anything happen? Exept when u got red skull u lose everything when u die. if it was this way high lvled characters would just pk the low levled characters just for fun or show how much power they got u THINK begginers will play??? ofcourse 7 days ban is Logical.. and its just not high lvled character pking low lvled.. i wouldnt feel safe anywhere in the game... Now u pk for reasons and thats why the game is fun cuz if u mess up ur screwed.. i.e. my bro was pk.. and then 5 minutes later that person was pk for the reson he pked my bro..

why does the "best" mmorpg only have about 20 threads on it then?

Originally posted by AkaJetson

why does the "best" mmorpg only have about 20 threads on it then?

That's because people, seen in these threads actually, tend to judge the book by its cover. Just like every mainstream, non-for-himself thinking player judges games.

Tibia is an amazing mmorpg there is no doubt. im not gunna say its the best as i havent played on that many but it is very good. all the people who are calling it rubbish im sure you havent actually played on it or if you have you probbaly didnt get past rookguard(the newbie island).

getting banned for killing too many people is a good idea as it reduces the effect of power abusers. if this stops you playing there are pvp enforced servers where you can kill people for experience.

all im saying is dont judge this game purely on screen shots or on the first few hours of play. i realise the graphics are bad but the game is realy incredable when you put some time into it.

I fin dthis game really good, it was my first mmorpg, and I got addicted to it, your adrenaline pumps when you go to unknown caves,  try to beat new monsters, going hunting Dragons with friends.

The skills system it's really realistic

you require knowledge of where you are hunting if you are a paladin or a mage, or you might get trapped

The sammers and such it's not a problem they even exist in real life so there is no point to hate them

You need friends to play it well

The spells system is great really great

The way you talk to NPC makes it more realistic, but sometimes it's annoying whe n people say "hi" and then go afk so no one can buy

It's just amazing how some people get nervous when a Red Skull is following them xD

Death penalty makes you play carefully, you better go with someone else, or be prepared

There are great social activities some are done by Cipsoft, adn some are even done by the players itself like the footbal tournaments

The game is really like real life you better respect the bigs or the bigs will step on you, There are some Guilds that work like Mafias which makes it even more realistic,

WAR! is one of the best things you will find in tibia seriously

houses are a great thing in tibia you can put whatever you want in them and make it look however you want and you even have to pay the rent or you will get kicked out

There are plenty of secret places in Tibia which many people havent found yet or just a little group of people

AND there is plenty of more like Season Parties, I remember once being in a party celebrating the first hydra one of my friends killed, we ended up killing ourselfes in a bloody party of fun, Fishing, getting married, baking and cooking, Santa Claus, Theatre, Casinoes, and much more

So don't play it just because it's 2d -.- the graphics are important i know, but in this game the gameplay it's what is important

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Strayko
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[b]The skill system.[/b]
I'll tell you about the basics of Tibia now.
Tibia is a game which resembles your normal everyday MMORPG.
You can choose a class to play, kill monsters, gain experience, advance in levels and in skills.
The skills sytem is very simple, the more you fight with an axe, the more your skills in the arts of axe fighting will be. This goes for the swordfighting, clubfighting, distancefighting and fistfighting aswell.
Then there's the shielding skill, which will advance in action if your shield is equipped, and the fishing skill, which will also improve if you fish a lot.

This skill/levell system is also used in World of Warcraft, as well as in Final Fantasy XI and Everquest 2. some games, such as Ultima Online, got rid of the level system and only go for the skill system. As you can see, nothing unique here.

[b]The magic system.[/b]
Then we've got the magic system, which would be the skill system in other MMORPG's of today.
The magic system allows you to learn spells, which can be used by typing the necessary pronounciation for the spelll. Your level determines wether you are ready to learn a spell or not. If you reach the required level, you can buy the spell at the class-guildbase of your class. You can then use the spell, if your magiclevel is high enough to cast the spell. Your magic level increases when you use your manapoints, thus casting spells. Each class has a wide variety of spells, except for the knight since this class only comes with 10 spells in total.
Spells differ from spells that heal yourself slightly to spells that do devastating damage. To regain manapoints, you must eat food which will slowly recover mana or use manapotions.
Mana is a very scarce source so it is to be dealt with carefully.

Again, nothing special here. The fact you have to type the spell is fairly intresting, but it would be wise to simply macro it. Its been done before in games like UO and Runescape.

[b]The servers.[/b]
When you start the game and log into your newly created character on one of the currently 72 servers you will be stuck to that server. In total, there are 3 types of servers;
1. The PvP server; This is the most common one and allows PvP everywhere except in protection zones, this includes every town it's depot (where you can store your items) and for example houses the player has bought/is invited to.
2. The non-PvP server; There are quite some of these servers too, you might guess it already, there is no PvP allowed in any area.
3. The PvP-enforced server; You can kill everybody and even gain experience for your kills. Though your victim must be in a certain range around your level.

A little correction. the PVP servers are just normal servers. the fact that, Imo, it can't be labeled PVP server is because of the fact you can actually get BANNED from the game  for pking after a certain amount of kills.

[img]http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/2334/exevogranmasvisbh7.png[/img]
This is one of the devastating spells called the Ultimate Explosion. The "Hail Portal  Tibia is a message the caster put behind the pronounciation.
The pronounciation for the Ultimate Explosion is thus exevo gran mas vis.
You can see the character casting the spell reaching quite a range with this spell, however, the spell does not reach above him. This is because the protection zone honours it's name. In this case, the protection zone was a depot. I can already tell you that the amount of protection zone that's in the game lies around the 1% of the whole mapped area. This means that you're almost always vulnerable, which makes a quick solve if you have a fight.

Safe zones and AOE spells. I find it difficult to find a pvp based MMO that doesn't have them.

[b]The skull system.[/b]
Noticed the red skull above the head of the casting character?
This is what you get when you kill 3 people or more (more in this case) on one day. Normally, if you attack someone, you'll get a white skull for 1 minute, if you kill someone you will get a white skull for 15 minutes. This allows other people to kill you without getting a skull. A pretty neat system because it's very simple, but it does justify.
The red skull lasts for a month, and you won't be happy when you have one. You will lose all your equipment if you die and you can't kill anybody unjustified (without a red/white skull) because you will get banned automatically for 7 days.

The same system is active in Lineage 2 and ArchLord, nothing special here, moving on.

[b]The four classes.[/b]
There are four classes;
The knight, the paladin, the sorcerer and the druid.
Each class comes with their benefits, spell sets and fighting style.

- Knights are the ones closest to combat, they advance faster in melee skills and in the shielding skill. They can use a small selection of runes (I'll get to that later), they advance slowly in magic level and slowly in distance fighting. They gain more health points and capacity (the amount of weight you can carry) but less mana when they level up. These brave warriors are often the core of any fight since they can distract the enemy and block it so the flanks on the back can attack it.

- Paladins, surprisingly to you, are fighters who advance the best in the distance fighting skill and advance medium in magic level and melee, they do advance just as fast in the shielding skill as the knight does. They can create/use a medium selection of runes and gain a medium amount of health points, capacity and mana when they level up. Some say: Too good to be a knight but too bad to be a sorcerer/druid. Not that a knight is a wrong class to choose, on the contrary.

- Sorcerers are the ones who use wands and can use/create a large selection of runes. They advance faster in magic level and the slowest in melee and shielding skills. They gain a low amount of health points and capacity but a high amount of mana when they level up. They mostly have offensive spells. Some say this is the strongest class available.

- Druids are the altered twins of the sorcerers. They use rods instead of wands and can also use/create a large selection of runes. They advance faster in magic level but slightly faster in the shielding and melee skills than the sorcerer does. They also gain a low amount of health points and capacity but a high amount of mana when they level up. They mostly have healing spells. Don't underestimate the druid.

cookie cutter classes, no comment is needed and it would also be unfair because this is simply what works best

[b]Spells.[/b]
There are two types of spells; Rune spells and instant spells, and they all have the same amount of cooldown time (exhaustion), you cannot spamm spells.
Instant spells are triggered instantly while rune spells are spells that are enclosed in... runes. Runes can be used for hunting and PvP, they are a very good source of power and healing.
Knights for example only have a light healing spell, this often doesn't heal more than 1% of the knight's health. Though there is the rune spell of the druid called ultimate healing (not to be mistaken with the instant ultimate healing spell which is cast on yourself when you use it) which they can enclose in a rune and which can be used when you reach magic level 4. This is not a very hard task to complete for a knight, and thus he relies on the ultimate healing rune created by the druid, these runes often heal 40-70% of the knight's health. Runes are a good way to make money and that's why you will see a lot of sorcerers and druids making runes all day long in front of their houses.

Same system is avaible in Ragnarok Online and ArchLord, only diffrence is that they are gathered through quests and drops instead of player created. the fact Sorcerers and druids are making runes all day long in front of their houses gives away the H U G E amount of excitement and fun you will get from this game...

[b]The guild system.[/b]
Then there's the guild system. In one sentence people join up with people who they like. People make guilds wherein they can chat, have their own guildhall to come together and maybe war with other guilds.
A guildmeeting of the Satori. They existed 4 years.
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000362.jpg[/img]

never been done in other mmorpg's.....ever!

Those were the basics, now we shall get to the real part of the game;

Finally

[b]The community.[/b]

Each game has it's own sort of people, the community is an important element in a game. Most of the games nowadays are based on fighting and fighting only. Tibia, on the other hand, is not a game based on fighting only.
There are 72 servers split up in 3 types of servers. But even these 72 servers each come with their own gameplay. Each server has it's own community, and that's what it's all about in Tibia, wether you play a PvP, non-PvP or PvP-enforced server.
Most of the communities are divided in 3 layers;
- The 1st layer, you'll see a lot of high-leveled players here, but also a lot of mid-leveled and low-leveled respected players. These players often have quite a "poo"load of cash.
- The 2nd layer, which consists mostly of mid-leveled players and low-leveled players but also some high-leveled players, they are not well known within the whole community but they just tag along with the rest of the server. They don't really interfere with any conflicts or anything and just live a normal everyday life.
- The 3rd layer, a lot of low leveled players are to be found here. Mostly the ones who just started and players who don't speak English very well, when this happens they often come in groups of 3-8 people from their own country and live pretty isolated lives. There are also a few mid-leveled players among those.

Typical standup you will find in pretty much every MMORPG's, especialy in games that have achievements through pvp such as Lineage, Lineage 2 and Ultima Online. the 3rd layer gave me a chuckle. according to Mr Tibia fan here, those of low level don't speak english very well because they are from a non-english speaking country, yes folks, the level hints the location of the player behind the character,so the next time you try to speak to a low level player, be sure to bring your swedish dictionary, and they live on top of a mountain all by themself, completely isolated from everyone else while they play Tibia.
No doubt the first thing that Mr fan will say "But gameloading, I meant our ingame life!"
sadly, Tibia is a GAME, not an online life. But what do I know, this is comming from someone who, according to Mr Fan, has no life. See the irony?
but we're getting off-topic. Yes, I know reading this is tiresome, But its about just as exciting as playing Tibia. hang in there, we're almost done!

Respect and status are of major concern. If you ever get into a conflict, then you will rely on your own strength. But if people start popping up with friends, you might want to fall back on your connections. Conflicts do occur, and not too shabby either. Conflicts can involve the whole server.
This is the part where I'll explain you about each server coming with it's own gameplay. Cause not every server is peaceful and quiet, as in most other MMORPG's.
Ofcourse there are servers which are peaceful and quiet, but on PvP servers there are often conflicts about power. These conflicts pretty much always involve the whole 1st layer. People will hunt eachother down and face eachother in large scaled fights to drive the opposite group off of the server.
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000523.jpg[/img]
These people want to reign a server and often abuse their power so they can get better from it.
Some people have wars for fun, some people have wars because they could just drink eachothers blood and some people have wars because they are addicted to warfare.
Some people like to join those people, some like to oppose them, some like to live under their protection and some don't even know what's going on such a server.
But ofcourse there are different types of servers, but even on those servers lots of fun events and things can happen.

This is exactly what happens in games like Lineage, Lineage 2, ArchLord and EVE online, and even Ultima Online, although not as heavily as the previous games mentioned. out of those games, I have the most experience with Lineage 2 so I shall use that as an example. The entire game world of Lineage 2 is build around this concept. Lineage 2 takes it a step further then Tibia does by introducing the well known Castle Siege system. Clans and alliances (an Alliance are multiple clans working together. This is not just some vocal agreement as in Tibia, its actually part of the game system). After a castle has been taken over, the clan can set the tax for the entire region (depending on which castle you take over), as well as controll over the manor system (check out the Lineage 2 site for more info on that), castles are taken over during castle sieges, and the fight takes place inside the castles, which are huge, usually involving a few hundred players.. Ofcourse, Lineage 2 offers full open pvp and quite a heavy death penalty (although not as high as Tibia, which is enough to make you want to quit the game). Castle sieges happen on set times. when castle sieges aren't happening, the exact same thing as in Tibia happens on Lineage 2, but with more depth because it also has an effect on relations during the very important castle sieges.

Mess up with one guild, and they will turn against you in next friday's Castle Siege. Help another guild out, and they might help you in the castle siege. This is why Lineage 2 has more depth then Tibia, it gives the player more control of the gameworld. ArchLord roughly works the exact same way, key diffrence is that only one person can be the ruler but in return, has even more effect on the gameworld

We'll proceed to the tight and fun community now!
The fun things mostly involve the people who are not interested in leveling up and all that. People don't want to stare at monsters all day, kill them, go to the next one. People like to have fun. And Tibia is the perfect way to have it! We don't need help of gamemasters to have fun and to have events, let them do their jobs and ban cheaters! We have all the possibilities to have fun, and why not make use of it? People organize events every day, that's what keeps people from getting bored and let the people have fun.
These events often involve the 2nd and the 1st layer, but some high-leveled players get sick from leveling too every now and then. I'm not saying that there are no high-leveled players who don't enjoy events, even if they took all the time of playing Tibia.
I can tell you from my 3 year experience, that people come up with the weirdest things.

I've seen big-ass parties where everybody comes together just to have a hell of a time.
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000433.jpg[/img]

I've seen zoos, where people lure all kinds of creatures to a certain area and enclose them with objects so they can't run away and ask an entrance fee to enter their zoo. I've seen dozens of restaurants and I even ran the love bar where people could meet and enjoy a glass of wine while getting to know eachother better.

Big football tournaments held each year with fantastic prizes such as these.
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000410.jpg[/img]
We've got TBL for example.

Bakeries.
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000441.jpg[/img]

Miss. Servername Elections.

Halloween parties.
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000565.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000564.jpg[/img]

And if people can't get it at home, why not in Tibia?
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000790.jpg[/img]

Make your own castles or whatever you want to make.
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000776.jpg[/img]
I've made ones 10 times as big as that one, but I don't have any screenshots from 'em anymore. :(

Get married or be the guest of your friend who's getting married and have fun!
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000344.jpg[/img]

Irish parties?
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000701.jpg[/img]

Theater shows?
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000552.jpg[/img]

Roleplaying school.
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000334.jpg[/img]

But that's not all... This game goes far, way far. People fake screenshots just for fun and capture humor in just 1 screenshot or faked screenshot.
People make songs because the company behind Tibia can't be bothered to make any music for the game., incredibly popular sites have been put up for this game with news resources and a lot of other stuff. I've even started cooking with Strayko once, and tried to create a Tibian live soap series.
Maybe this will give you an idea of how big Tibia is...

Yeah a tibian soap in the tibia national language:

PaladinBR:"Omgz lolol, swordbabe37 u liek cheated on me wtfwtf?//?
Swordbabe37:"omgz wtfz???//? i did not cheat on u liek wtf?
PaladinBR:"WTF, rofl, u liek think i'm retarded? i saw u with s3ph1r0th! there he is, what do you have to say for urself S3ph1r0th???/?"
S3ph1r0th:"....Swe?"



Been to the movies?
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000633.jpg[/img]
Wherein Eternal Oblivion is the highest leveled character in Tibia at the moment. I think Achilles is going to have a hard time.
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000487.jpg[/img]

School of fishes?
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000680.jpg[/img]

Mediamarkt?
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000581.jpg[/img]

This is Santa's house in Tibia. Normally, the places where they stand aren't reachable.
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000620.jpg[/img]

People use spells in tibia as company names...
[img]http://www.tibianews.net/picday/000497.jpg[/img]
Coincidence? No, it's the pronounciation of the strong haste spell in Tibia.

The above 4 screenshots were all fake, except for the company called Utani Gran Hur.
These screenshots were all "pictures of the day" from the site named www.tibianews.net
If you are curious about the game I suggest you take a look there.

random things, happens in most MMO's, not really that game related.

Now, I hope I gave you an idea what Tibia is all about. It's about friendship, community and fun. Atleast, that's what it is for me.
I'm proud that I have been a Tibian.
This is why. This is why Tibia.

The official site of Tibia is www.tibia.com
If you are interested you can sign up and download the client.

Strayko has been spreading the delusion that Tibia is a unique game of extremely high quality that is like no other, this post will once and for all prove him wrong. Obviously he will come in and tell me how wrong I am and more of that blabla which can be safely ignored without missing out on anything! I hope this post will convince you, the reader, to not directly jump into the game's premium fee services, but to go for a free account, see for yourself how outdated and of low quality the game is, and spend your money on a diffrent, more suited MMORPG. This shall also be my last post in this section, so the only other things you will read on will be the OP bashing everyone who doesn't agree that Tibia is the second comming.

this will be my last post here, so the rest of all posting will be done by Strayko.

all those things can be in all those games you named, but you forgot about something, Tibia was released first

Originally posted by HELLTRIKKY

all those things can be in all those games you named, but you forgot about something, Tibia was released first

Two: Tibia wasn't the first MMO released and it wasn't the first to do these things.

Three: These are all pretty basic features. Anyone with half a brain could have come up with them.

i wouldn't tibia is the best mmo but it good, i mean people in main can just kill u if they feel like it, they can loot u, u lose a lvl if ur not lucky, and ur skills go down,

Ok I'll start telling my experiences. I strated playing Tibia 3 years ago, too much time for a MMORPG you should say, but I'm neither a high level or a power gamer.

My name in game is Maestro'Roshi, on the world of Danera, this wasn't my first character, this one is just level 35. Starting my storie I'll tell my favorite.

I remember when I was at Depot (no-pvp zone), and I saw a guy telling, "Please I'm new, help me with some items." I was his level too and I felt like that before too, so I gave him some OF MY OWN ITEMS, because I'm not a power gamer that just logins to gain level and be the most powerful. I'm like the one who gives ideas and his friendship to all the needers. However, that guy became so happy and he told me "I'll remember your name."

Well, after that I retired from Tibia cuz of college, like 8 months, then I logged in to talk all my friends I left behind on Tibia. I went fishing because a friend of mine needed some food to make runes, so I was heading the river when 2 pks started attacking me, I yelled for help but none heard, so those guys killed me.

Well, when you die you appear in temple, so I did, and I walk again to depot to restore some equipment, when I was standing in front of depot I saw a level 97 guy, that was so unbelievable, was that guy who was asking for items 8 months ago. And yes, he remind of me. I didn't tell anything about my death, but he searched my name in the website of Tibia where appears the death list and the killer's name, and he told me he'd help, inmediately he cast a spell to find those persons and in minutes those guys were dead.

Tibia couldn't be the best MMORPG on Internet, but it have an amazing community, actually I can write a thread in the Danera forum asking for a reply from all my ingame friends, and I'm sure that thread will be one of the most viewed and discussed. And that makes Tibia a big game. So sad to see how people blame Tibia to be a lame game when they just see the graphics. But the community says all about this game...

02:37 Irv [97]: hey how are you roshi?
02:38 Irv [97]: i bought this helmet for you

That's what I mean.

Nice story, and also cool that he still remembers you. (that don't happen much )

I laugh at this thread. It's not the graphics that ruin this game. It's the horrible community contained with it.

If you think WoW is bad. Tibia is worse.

Originally posted by AzurePrower

I laugh at this thread. It's not the graphics that ruin this game. It's the horrible community contained with it.

If you think WoW is bad. Tibia is worse.

Niether are too bad compared to runescape

why...why ....WHYYYYYY. WHYYYYYYY did you start this thread...why....no one cares about an asian grind game, specially one that looks worse than Ultima Online......

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Originally posted by Tenebroso
why...why ....WHYYYYYY. WHYYYYYYY did you start this thread...why....no one cares about a GERMAN grind game, specially one that looks worse than Ultima Online......

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Fixed.