General Discussion

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One of the last points that I feel is important to bring up is that in talking with the team the issue of Trials of Atlantis was addressed. The developers know that ToA was poorly received by the community when it was released and mentioned that the Gareth server was in direct response to that. They wanted players to enjoy the game without the ToA content. The main reason behind this was also clarified by Mike Stone, “Players don’t want to be forced; they want to choose what they do.” He basically went on to say that ToA forced players to compete in an arms race scenario when the game was already successful with its RvR content. People then felt like they had to go out and grind again. This process took away from the RvR which was so popular. Even though EA Mythic may not get everything right (then again who does), you have to respect a company that makes mistakes, admits it, and really tries to give something back to the players in return.

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You really do have to respect Mythic.

Hopefully Mythic influences Ultima Online to start doing the same.

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Originally posted by njdevi66
"Even though EA Mythic may not get everything right (then again who does), you have to respect a company that makes mistakes, admits it, and really tries to give something back to the players in return."

Now if only SOE did something like that concerning SWG... makes you wonder why they dont when Mythic can admit mistakes and do something to make up for that mistake.

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Yeah, as much as I hated TOA, and pre-TOA DAOC is still my all-time favorite MMO- I have to say, what SOE did to SWG is really much worse. If only they'd make similar classic servers, they'd save a lot of face on that. Although like with Mythic, waiting two years to get around to it, seems a bit late for that. Still, you'd think they'd try to salvage the game, it's one of the few that isn't an EQ clone in any way, shape or form.

I really enjoyed DAoC when it first came out, it easily pulled me away from EQ1.  The 1st expansion, Shrouded Isles, was quite fun and well made.

ToA did kill it for me though....

I was actually going to return some time ago but when EA bought Mythic, or I should say Mark sold his company out, I lost a lot of respect for them.   So I didn't return as I will not play or rent any game made by EA.  Sad really, some of my fondest ingame moments were in DAoC. 

I will only go back if they remove buff-bots.

Thats it the deal maker or breaker for me.  Oh and don't tell me to go classic.  I have  5 level 50s and 3 legendary crafters on Nimue.

But the 2 accounts to compete in RvR blows and I will not pay it .

There I feel better now,,,,,,,,,,,

Originally posted by Balwar

I will only go back if they remove buff-bots.

Thats it the deal maker or breaker for me.  Oh and don't tell me to go classic.  I have  5 level 50s and 3 legendary crafters on Nimue.

But the 2 accounts to compete in RvR blows and I will not pay it .

 

There I feel better now,,,,,,,,,,,

One other thing Mythic could never get right.  When they adjusted a class they either nerfed them to uselessness or created new RvR gods.  Never could they do it right.  The cleric nerf was a good example.  But the assasin saga was worse, first they suck then they rule then they suck again.....  same with archers..

Another real good example is Necro armor

First it did not decay.  This was wrong since all other classes had to deal with item decay.  So in typical Mythic fasion they "fixed" it.  Then Necro armor decayed like 10x faster than anyone elses and may still.  They are very slow to correct anything and when they do they will overdue it again......

From a game designer perspective, Dark Age of Camelot is still the number one MMO on the market right now. It's the only game where you can RvR (pvp) in a meaningful ways and quite frankly, that's what end game is about. The game overall with housing and good crafting (althout not simple if you go in spell crafting i agree) makes it so you don't have to farm mindlessly in order to have good gear. The classic server is the place to go for any of you who consider trying it. But i would only do so if you have one or more friends to start up from scratch with you. (Unless you really don't mind soloing for a month or two until you get to 50 and hit the real stuff)

I would consider going back to Daoc as well, but all the people i know are either waiting for War Hammer to come out or still playing WoW until War Hammer. In both case, not a viable option for me since i don't want to be stuck with wannabes