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  Bitey

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OP  1/26/07 3:29:48 PM#1
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/112883

Demand an Apology and accoutablitity from MMORPG.com. They supported this moron.
  Gameloading

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1/26/07 3:33:32 PM#2
And why would they need to apology to you?
  Bitey

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OP  1/26/07 3:41:54 PM#3
Even though there was significant evidence this developer was the same type of mourning developer/scammer, mmorpg.com supported Colton. They took his money for advertising, promised this team had clean and professional resumes, put him back on the gamelist/forum and even wrote a charming article about how wonderful and professional he is- http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/gameId/276/setView/features/loadFeature/923/OwnershipChangeTheTrueStory.html

They even allowed for Colton to make 10-15 accounts just for spamming and hate mail for critics. LoudAnt sent many harrassing mail to me and others, and mmorpg.com didn't do shit.

It's a joke. We deserve an apology.
  User Deleted
1/26/07 3:50:04 PM#4
As much as I love this site and it's community, Gameloading, Bitey is right.
  Liddokun

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1/26/07 3:59:41 PM#5

Hmm... if these accusations are indeed true then I am sure mmorpg's admin can verify it and take action. Did you email the administrator directly ?

 

  beezee

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1/26/07 4:02:35 PM#6

Well after reading some of the previous post regarding this topic or should I say MMORPG.com soap opera.  I came to the conclusion that the people in charge of ToC are unscrupulous morons and that the powers to be at MMORPG are sticking their heads in the sand about it.

However, kudos to the peeps (i.e. Zorvan & others) here that hounded this project and it's knucklehead developers and unmasked them for the asshats they are.
  Gameloading

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1/26/07 4:04:20 PM#7
Originally posted by Bitey
Even though there was significant evidence this developer was the same type of mourning developer/scammer, mmorpg.com supported Colton. They took his money for advertising, promised this team had clean and professional resumes, put him back on the gamelist/forum and even wrote a charming article about how wonderful and professional he is- http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/gameId/276/setView/features/loadFeature/923/OwnershipChangeTheTrueStory.html

They even allowed for Colton to make 10-15 accounts just for spamming and hate mail for critics. LoudAnt sent many harrassing mail to me and others, and mmorpg.com didn't do shit.

It's a joke. We deserve an apology.
Sounds fair enough.
  Samuraisword

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1/26/07 10:14:52 PM#8
Originally posted by Admin

Completely understandable Shae...but I feel ok in informing people about the game being it is a entirely new team and they have assured us that a) they will not take any pre-orders for the game and b) they are going to take care of the Mourning subscribers that got mistreated.

Now as long as they don't accept pre-orders I don't see how anyone could be harmed before the launch of the game.  As a site dedicated to reporting MMORPG news we just feel it is our duty to report on this title as it evolves - otherwise we would not be doing our jobs

In the event that LoudAnt were to back out on their work (ie start taking pre-orders) we would probably warn our readers and possibly remove the game again as much of the reason for the re-listing was based on all these facts.

As I see it if LoudAnt pulls this off and releases a good, playable product and the old subscribers get some compensation - there might actually be a silver lining to this horrible storm system after all

An apology is meaningless. I expect the admin to follow thru on his promises quoted above. He said:

b) they are going to take care of the Mourning subscribers that got mistreated.

Have they?

As a site dedicated to reporting MMORPG news we just feel it is our duty to report on this title as it evolves - otherwise we would not be doing our jobs

I expect an article exposing this deception in detail and the people involved and how MMORPG.com could so easily be taken in, otherwise as the admin says in his own words, they would not be doing their jobs. The only possible silver lining would be MMORPG.com's  reevaluation of minimum standards required for promoting and allowing companies to promote their games.

Originally posted by Razorback

I wish them the very best of luck and look forward to seeing some proper development on this title in the months to come.

 Good Luck Loud Ant

I don't know what to make about supportive statements like this. Was this part of the scam?

  User Deleted
1/26/07 10:30:09 PM#9
Well, at this time, it's all in the staff's hands now as far as handling Colton and his buddies.  In another thread, he seems to think that he and his wannabe investigators at never win "owned" me. Personally, I don't care if they did or not. I did what I thought was right in trying to expose Colton and ToC for the frauds they were. if I succeeded in that, then I'm happy with it. Peace.
  Maphusio

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"Game is sold I made my money GL on being ugly fat losers" Colton Burgress, CEO Loud Ant Software.

1/26/07 11:14:59 PM#10
Originally posted by Zorvan
Well, at this time, it's all in the staff's hands now as far as handling Colton and his buddies.  In another thread, he seems to think that he and his wannabe investigators at never win "owned" me. Personally, I don't care if they did or not. I did what I thought was right in trying to expose Colton and ToC for the frauds they were. if I succeeded in that, then I'm happy with it. Peace.
I once had the same goals... Then, I decided I REALLY felt like stooping to Colton's level... Besides, it was OH so fun and it earned the ol' pad lock award! 

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  LoudAntSoft

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1/27/07 8:10:45 PM#11
Originally posted by Bitey
Even though there was significant evidence this developer was the same type of mourning developer/scammer, mmorpg.com supported Colton. They took his money for advertising, promised this team had clean and professional resumes, put him back on the gamelist/forum and even wrote a charming article about how wonderful and professional he is- http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/gameId/276/setView/features/loadFeature/923/OwnershipChangeTheTrueStory.html

They even allowed for Colton to make 10-15 accounts just for spamming and hate mail for critics. LoudAnt sent many harrassing mail to me and others, and mmorpg.com didn't do shit.

It's a joke. We deserve an apology.


Why do you deserve an apology? You hated the game from the start and thought we would scam people. We have not take one penny from anyone to play the game and sold the assets. There was no deception by MMORPG or the staff and no one has been ripped off.

  LoudAntSoft

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1/27/07 8:11:49 PM#12
Originally posted by Zorvan
Well, at this time, it's all in the staff's hands now as far as handling Colton and his buddies.  In another thread, he seems to think that he and his wannabe investigators at never win "owned" me. Personally, I don't care if they did or not. I did what I thought was right in trying to expose Colton and ToC for the frauds they were. if I succeeded in that, then I'm happy with it. Peace.


Ya, you did get "owned" pretty bad; it was hilarious. Please call into the radio show this week.
  User Deleted
1/27/07 9:16:32 PM#13
Originally posted by LoudAntSoft
Originally posted by Zorvan
Well, at this time, it's all in the staff's hands now as far as handling Colton and his buddies.  In another thread, he seems to think that he and his wannabe investigators at never win "owned" me. Personally, I don't care if they did or not. I did what I thought was right in trying to expose Colton and ToC for the frauds they were. if I succeeded in that, then I'm happy with it. Peace.


Ya, you did get "owned" pretty bad; it was hilarious. Please call into the radio show this week.
Yep, keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you happy
  LoudAntSoft

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1/27/07 9:22:18 PM#14
Originally posted by Zorvan
Originally posted by LoudAntSoft
Originally posted by Zorvan
Well, at this time, it's all in the staff's hands now as far as handling Colton and his buddies.  In another thread, he seems to think that he and his wannabe investigators at never win "owned" me. Personally, I don't care if they did or not. I did what I thought was right in trying to expose Colton and ToC for the frauds they were. if I succeeded in that, then I'm happy with it. Peace.


Ya, you did get "owned" pretty bad; it was hilarious. Please call into the radio show this week.
Yep, keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you happy

Alright Zorvan,

You can continue your attack on me or whatever. I don't really care that much and don't want to focus any  more time on any of it. If you feel as if I did something illegal you should investigate it fully and report it. However, as much as you hate me or the company the bottom line is we never released the game, as we knew it was incomplete, and never had any intention of scamming anyone, and we never did.

You can spin that anyway you want but that is the truth and no one from the MMO community was taken advantage of from anything I did.

Good luck to you in whatever you do.
  necrotherion

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1/27/07 9:35:43 PM#15
Can someone basically summarize what this is all about?

From what I've read in the past 2 mins, apparently some dumbass made claimed to have a company that was making a game and turns out he was a fake. Oh, and the site believed him, so now he struts around stroking his e-peen about it. Anything I'm missing?
  User Deleted
1/27/07 9:54:09 PM#16

Remove TOC from the site and end this misery. All that should be on this site are some sticky locked threads about TOC, that way people can be warned about what their getting into if they do business with Colton or any of his games. This would also lower the opportunities for Colton to commit acts of harassment and threats against posters to the site.

  Maphusio

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"Game is sold I made my money GL on being ugly fat losers" Colton Burgress, CEO Loud Ant Software.

1/28/07 3:07:41 AM#17
Originally posted by Welles

Remove TOC from the site and end this misery. All that should be on this site are some sticky locked threads about TOC, that way people can be warned about what their getting into if they do business with Colton or any of his games. This would also lower the opportunities for Colton to commit acts of harassment and threats against posters to the site.


Amen

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  Admin

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1/28/07 11:59:15 AM#18

MMORPG.com acted on the best information we had to work with.  We had a teleconference with him, discussed the game, the future and the new company.  From everything we could see it looked as if the game passed to a new company - and I still think it did.  However it seems now that LoudAnt has sold this to someone else (allegedly) and the owner decided to lash back out at the people that have been doubting/harassing him on our boards for months.  We assume he did this since he no longer had anything to lose (and we banned him for it). 

The "facts" that the community brought us on ToC were sketchy at best - myspace pages, claims of him being to young to make an MMO (which is absurd and discriminatory) and other soft "evidence".

We did not "support" LoudAnt or Colton Burges...we simply reported on a MMORPG title as we saw it.  LoudAnt/Colton did not take money from anyone or launch a game here, so I don't think anything "scandalous" has taken place. 

However, we will probably end up removing this game once and for all since we are all very tired of it...so very tired

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  Maphusio

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"Game is sold I made my money GL on being ugly fat losers" Colton Burgress, CEO Loud Ant Software.

1/28/07 12:03:48 PM#19
*does a little dance and sings "ding dong the witch is dead"*

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  kimjongil

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1/28/07 1:03:41 PM#20
Originally posted by Admin

MMORPG.com acted on the best information we had to work with.  We had a teleconference with him, discussed the game, the future and the new company.  From everything we could see it looked as if the game passed to a new company - and I still think it did.  However it seems now that LoudAnt has sold this to someone else (allegedly) and the owner decided to lash back out at the people that have been doubting/harassing him on our boards for months.  We assume he did this since he no longer had anything to lose (and we banned him for it). 

The "facts" that the community brought us on ToC were sketchy at best - myspace pages, claims of him being to young to make an MMO (which is absurd and discriminatory) and other soft "evidence".

We did not "support" LoudAnt or Colton Burges...we simply reported on a MMORPG title as we saw it.  LoudAnt/Colton did not take money from anyone or launch a game here, so I don't think anything "scandalous" has taken place. 

However, we will probably end up removing this game once and for all since we are all very tired of it...so very tired


how is proof from the oregon secretary of state the publisher nuanced entertainment never existed and the developer loud ant being dissolved mid 2006 facts that are "sketchy at best"


to my knowledge nothing illegal took place, but their are other reasons for exposing colton. if it turns out a sale did take place, colton would be responsible for tax evasion. i do not really care what happens, though when i stumbled across this thread i thought i would help the community with tidbits of info where i saw fit.
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