You trying to start a flame war with the girls,  ganon89 ?   

I think the majority of us girl players fit somewhere in between both titles. I may dye my armor to match, and swing a sword. Or I may choose another time to be a Cleric, Ranger or Druid. I've played all classes, and played them well because I like a challenge. I can match most guys, although I know there are both girls and guys who can outmatch me. Over time, I've found my niche in being a healer, simply because I do that best.

You just can't draw such rigid distinctions between the genders. The only players I sneer at are the ones who choose silly names, overly girly names, or create huge breasted female avatars. I do suspect those are guys though, hehe.

Annarchy rocks.

And evidently Tycho's niece is not far from the comic character lol

Im a girl (woman actually) who enjoys mmorpgs. I usually play the tank or the destructive caster or my fav, the sneaky backstabbing rogue. I usually do make my toon a female gender but do have a few that are of the male gender. I do care about how I look but I will not and do not sacrifice stats for looks. I craft in every game I play so as a crafter I pretty much have my pick of what colors, style, etc. and yes I want to look good. I dont want to look sexy, I want to look mean and formidable but not with a face that will hurt ya. When the boobies get in the way of seeing your new uber chest armor design, then I have a problem with it.  

I have played with some women gamers and I myself see a difference in the type of "girl gamer' there is. Unfortunately, most are the carebear, follow-their-boyfriend, be a healer/support . Most also dont have the gumption to jump in and start swinging. Then you have the other side, the loud-mouthed know-it-all who also seems to make it their business to let gawd and everybody know they are a girl. (BFD btw) yet still allow the others to do the inyourface fighting. Sigh...

Many are shocked that I am in fact a "real girl" when they hear me in vent. I dont broadcast nor really even talk about whether I am a girl or not ingame. It just seems to never come up. The guy gamers however change one hellova lot when they hear my voice. Even though I could be the best damn tank our group has, since Im a girl, its now the GUY tank who is Main Assist. For no other reason other than I have a nice voice in Vent. :P That pisses me off and I usually wont group with them if it continues to happen.

I dont really know how I would classify myself though. Girl Gamer or Gamer Girl. I just play the toon, play the game. I dont care about being the best but I do care whether or not the enemy gets dead. Whether I get the deathblow or not, doesnt matter, one dead enemy. Guys have a problem with it tho. And dear gawd! If you got a deathblow and the other girls boyfriend didnt, you are a POS with the other girl!!!

In real life, I am feminine, good looking if I do say so myself and enjoy my bubble baths and pedicures. Ingame however, I craft to make sure I have the best spellcrafted, tailored, armored, studded, gemmed, potioned and enhanced and not to mention, color-coordinated suit there is and I dont like to stand in the back and let the "guys do it".  I will curse and yell and fight with the best of them when I am playing.

Originally posted by Ksenia
Never realized that there was considered to be a difference between girl gamer and gamer girl.

I play to be my best.  I do enjoy support classes, particularly healers, with usual alts being scout/ranger types and monk types.  I try to max out my stats, my power, my power regen, my casting speed, etc.  I've lead guilds, I've lead raids. 

I hate crafting, but I still give it a go to make my character well rounded and more self-sustaining.

I like the armor to look nice, but utility > fashion.

One of my biggest indulges in a game is housing though - I enjoy decorating a house with what's in game. 

My boyfriend plays games with me, but I choose some, he chooses others, and sometimes he doesn't play games I get and vice versa.  it's a nice relationship though as we can spend time playing side by side or cheering each other on in the same room while we do our own thing.  We're both accepting and supporting of our hobby.

In the end, girls (and boys) play games in the way they'll enjoy it best - gamer girls or girl gamers, it doesn't bother me.  If it's the girl kicking your ass in PVP, or the girl following the boyfriend in PVE, it's all good.

Originally posted by roadwarriors

Originally posted by Ksenia
Never realized that there was considered to be a difference between girl gamer and gamer girl.

I play to be my best.  I do enjoy support classes, particularly healers, with usual alts being scout/ranger types and monk types.  I try to max out my stats, my power, my power regen, my casting speed, etc.  I've lead guilds, I've lead raids. 

I hate crafting, but I still give it a go to make my character well rounded and more self-sustaining.

I like the armor to look nice, but utility > fashion.

One of my biggest indulges in a game is housing though - I enjoy decorating a house with what's in game. 

My boyfriend plays games with me, but I choose some, he chooses others, and sometimes he doesn't play games I get and vice versa.  it's a nice relationship though as we can spend time playing side by side or cheering each other on in the same room while we do our own thing.  We're both accepting and supporting of our hobby.

In the end, girls (and boys) play games in the way they'll enjoy it best - gamer girls or girl gamers, it doesn't bother me.  If it's the girl kicking your ass in PVP, or the girl following the boyfriend in PVE, it's all good.

No offesne but if my girlfriend told me she played computer games I would dumb her azzzz knaw what I mean style. I get righteous that way. Otherwise game on dorkis and remember it might seem like a good Idea to pop the zits but they scar.

Originally posted by Anofalye

Join the group now or keep doing this interesting stuff.

 

The choice is yours, but meanwhile, XP are rolling around.  You're in, you're out!  You're call, but this carebear won't stop the XP machine for you!   Now if you excuse me, while I write this, I miss my chain pulling and the group is already talking, more pulling, less talking! 

Originally posted by Kyleran

I have gamed with both types of female gamers, and there are some differences I've noticed...

Gamer Girl - Joined game on their own, tend to play as Warriors, Mages and other damage dealing characters.  Most competent I ever met was in Lineage one, a 24 year old female who ran a terrrfic sieging guild that I was a member of.  She would actually make us train our combat skills on a bi-weekly basis, running group excercises and mock siege warfare.  Can't comment much on her thoughts on character looks though, Lineage 1 didn't lend itself to that.   Girl gamers are less likely to play the "sex" card in a game, they are more focused on game mechanics and goals, and not about pointing out that they behave a certain way because they are female.

Girl Gamer - Usually joined the game at the urging of their spouse, boyfriend, or other family members. Will frequently play support classes such as healers/buffers and will normally only co-lead a guild with their significant other.  One oddity, some women prefer to belong to guilds separate from their partner, I've met several husband/wife teams that play in different guilds.  They can be extremely competent at playing their classes, they take it serious, even if they do spend more time working on good looking outfits/weapons.  I find this group tends to handle the bulk of the crafting/gathering chores in a guild more often than not, and they make up a larger portion of the female population than gamer girl.

Of course, these are sterotypical observations that don't pertain to all female players.  Its just how I've come to perceive female players over the course of many years of MMORPG gaming.

Your results will vary.... 

 

 

I don't think it matters if your a 'Girl Gamer' or a 'Gamer Girl'. I'm a jock and a tomboy and I prefer to play the direct combat 'role' in MMOs. I like my armor to look like armor but I'll still spend time getting a look I like even if it isn't a girly look or color. None of this makes me 'better' then another gamer, it's just my likes and my style (or lack of it ).

I realize a lot of people say they don't see the difference, or why it matters, but here is why it matters:

So often in female gaming groups, you'll find some game dev who pops in and wants the "female perspective" on gaming.  Now, if you have two different types of female gamers, with a whole lot in the middle, how are you going to give him one general female perspective?

Game companies are constantly asking how to best market to females, but they don't get it through their thick skulls that you can't market to ALL females at the same time because of the differences in opinion.

The problem is that women who actually identify with one or the other of these groups, do not want the other group to be the one to dictate to gaming companies how games should be made to appeal to female gamers, because they feel the other group does not truly represent female gamers.

And that’s why the difference between Gamer Girl and Girl Gamer actually means anything.

Originally posted by Melcene

I realize a lot of people say they don't see the difference, or why it matters, but here is why it matters:

So often in female gaming groups, you'll find some game dev who pops in and wants the "female perspective" on gaming.  Now, if you have two different types of female gamers, with a whole lot in the middle, how are you going to give him one general female perspective?

Game companies are constantly asking how to best market to females, but they don't get it through their thick skulls that you can't market to ALL females at the same time because of the differences in opinion.

The problem is that women who actually identify with one or the other of these groups, do not want the other group to be the one to dictate to gaming companies how games should be made to appeal to female gamers, because they feel the other group does not truly represent female gamers.

And that’s why the difference between Gamer Girl and Girl Gamer actually means anything.