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Turbine and Midway Games announce new Founder's Program for Lord of the Rings Online. Turbine also announces the release date of April 24, 2007.
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1/25/07 9:30:31 AM#2
Not to be the one who cried 'bash this game' now however although liking the idea of a 'lifetime' membership totaling that up it's about 20-ish months (just under 2 years) of gameplay costs (assuming it subcription price stays at $9.99), in my head it's a bit of a gamble as there is no reason to state that you will even play the game for that long or even the game will last that long... If it does manage that length of time whats going to be their funding stratagy if many of it's playerbase choose the lifetime option? Yea they'll have a huge cash bundle in the short term but long term it's better to keep it with subcriptions so they have a perminate cash flow, TBH with the 'lifetime option' it looks like even they don't expect to see the game past 2 years and just want a huge cash injection as fast as possible Bring on the WARRRRGGHH! |
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1/25/07 9:53:06 AM#3
Lifetime subscription is only available to preorders. After the game comes out it won't be available to new players. So they basicly want to even out the loss they have making this game right off the bat, and then survive on the next subscribers that won't preorder. It's not a bad idea, a bit risky but still, fun. I'll do it :)
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1/25/07 9:55:13 AM#4
Either way, the 9.99 per month is still a very good deal if it is on a month by month basis.
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1/25/07 9:57:26 AM#5
I disagree. Satellite radio offers lifetime subs for around the same price. I've had mine for almost two years now and I do not have any desire to drop it. So, as long as Turbine provides its monthly updates or maybe an expansion or two and maybe no massive nerf bats I can see myself sticking around for awhile. I did that with EQ and AC was in both games for several years. .. .... .- - . - .-. --- .-.. .-.. ... .-- .... --- .-. . .--. --- .-. - .-.-.- |
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1/25/07 10:14:15 AM#6
This sounds good, I am onboard! I enjoyed Dungeons and Dragons Online, and I like Turbine's mmos in general, so this is good news for me. I never had high hopes for LotRO, but for $9.99, I am definitely going to be playing it in the beginning. Hopefully, it'll have a long and interesting lifespan and make it worth while for the players who pay the lifetime fee. I am way too fickle for that, though, as I might jump ship and play another mmorpg at any given time. |
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1/25/07 10:16:14 AM#7
Sounds like the 9.99 /month is a Pre-Order only deal. Everyone else will need to pay the standard $14.99? If that's the case you can bet you'll never be able to cancel without being bumped up to the 14.99 for reactivating.
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1/25/07 10:23:05 AM#8
Stll 9.99 /month is a great deal i think that pretty decent of them to offer that really , i dont plan on playing myself at the start but if its a good game i have no problem paying 14.99
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1/25/07 10:26:31 AM#9
It's a good point, but pre-ordering isn't as much of a big deal as some people make it out to be. Whoever has access to a Gamestop can simply put down $5 for LotRO. It is then Pre-ordered, and you are a Founder (as long as you buy the game). If you realized that you don't like the game according to what you read or what you experience in Open Beta, simply transfer your $5 pre-order to something else or get a credit for it at Gamestop, and you haven't lost anything. I just did this for Vanguard: Saga of Hereos. I had the Collectors Edition pre-ordered for months and finally had enough of the poor performance I get while trying to test in the beta (which is only days away from becoming final). So the preorder for Vanguard will now become my pre-order for LotRO. Easy as pie, whatever that means. |
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1/25/07 10:29:09 AM#10
Does anyone find it odd that one of the "bonus" items is a simple Ring of Agility? Doesn't that seem rather low and silly? It makes me think that this isn't a game I'd like to play if a ring giving some agility is considered a top prize.
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1/25/07 10:33:14 AM#11
I wonder how this turns out for European customers? This offer seems sweet as... pie. A Swedish PoTBS society |
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1/25/07 10:34:23 AM#12
Awarding 'top' prizes to people who pre-order is never a good idea. It is a perk, same as the slight endurance buff that Vanguard: SoH pre-orders will get. It isn't fair to give powerful items to people who pre-order. As is it, I think that pre-orders get too much as far as thing in-game. The $9.99 subscription for founders is great though.
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1/25/07 11:11:15 AM#13
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1/25/07 11:27:41 AM#14
Nobody knows what condition the game will be in come April 27th, or whenever the launch date will actually be. It is a few months from now. To say that it will still be in a beta state is speculative. Even still, some players will not mind the bugs and will pay to play LotRO from the start, and to do that while paying $9.99 per month is better than paying $14.99. If the launch really is terrible, there is always patience and understanding, and then as we mostly see, there is rage and ridicule for the game and its developer, in which case, there is a cancel subcription button waiting, and it's the same if you are paying $9.99 as a Founder or if you've picked up the game after release and pay $14.99. For those who are optimistic and can see more good than bad in LotRO, and think it will be fun to play, this Founder deal is a good thing. Of course it isn't good for someone who already looks at the game negatively. |
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1/25/07 11:29:22 AM#15
Your missing some information Navra
1- Preordering gives you access 1 month prior to launch 2- You get to keep your characters and items (lvl limited) 3- You don't pay for the beta part, just the preordering fees The $199 lifetime has the advantage of keeping your account alive and never loosing your chars. (Ooooh, so many times have i started over in games because of this) :) |
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1/25/07 11:34:05 AM#16
I like the idea of $10 a month, but I'm not sure about the $200. If you end up loving the game and it's the new Game To Play, then sure a flat lifetime fee is fine. Odds are though that you may not play it for 20 months, which is what the flat fee equates to really. I got my beta invite yesterday, so hopefully I can get some good insight as to how the game is working out. Unfortunately, I did not care for DDO at all, so personally Turbine as 1 strike against them in my book. They could still hit a homer though. |
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1/25/07 11:43:55 AM#17
I hope you enjoy the beta, but don't tell us about it, there is still an NDA! There are always fears about pre-ordering, and that's understandable, since sometimes you never know what you'll get. But in this case, you will know after you've tried the Open Beta. Even if you've pre-ordered and gotten into the beta that way, you can still opt out and not buy LotRO if you don't like what you've seen. This is the way I'd like to see all mmorpg progress. With closed beta and then a beta open to everyone, almost like a trial, so that they can get a sense of the game before they buy the box. The 30 days free was a nice try, but you had to pay $50 or more first. If you didn't like the game after those 30 days, you've just wasted money. Most single player games release a demo, and it should be no different for mmorpgs in the form of an open beta before release. The pre-order is for people who know they would like to play, and Turbine is simply rewarding them for their initial loyalty and investment. |
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1/25/07 11:47:38 AM#18
The longest I have ever played (in one stretch) is a year and a half in any mmorpg (Ultima Online). I went back again and played it for another year after a year off.
Currently, WoW has me going for 1.5 years and will break the previous streak. So to say that I'd play LotR for 2 years to make it worth it would be a gamble for the $200. I'd rather not risk it, try it, and if it is a great game, I won't mind spending an extra 3-5 bucks a month to play. So the only other advantage is the 'bonus' stuff. I don't see transfering characters over as a bonus since that will be quickly erased after a few months play by everyone else and those who will play 24/7 and have a better character anyway. Maybe a collector pin might make it worth it, or a special item that shows I was a 'Founder' other than a ring and a cloak. |
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Samuraisword
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1/25/07 12:04:27 PM#19
Games that offer in-game advantages for preordering are not worth playing. They are allowing players to essentially buy advantages and this is unfair. Gaming purists who play MMOGs on the basis of sportsmanly competition, the way MMOGs were originally designed to be, don't want anything to do with this type of bastardization. Everything should be earned in-game thru expended effort only. A low character rollover and a few minor trinkets is too much of an advantage. I also agree that being locked into a 2 year contract for a measly $5 discount per month is not worth it. I highly recommend you beta this product first to understand why. |
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1/25/07 12:14:22 PM#20
Don't trust Turbine so can't even bring myself to look at the site. I do like the $200 lifetime though. That is something I would do with some games. After 3 or 4 of those then would be set for a while. The only problem then is if the game goes away before 2 years is up.
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xrebel
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1/25/07 12:33:42 PM#21
Originally posted by Samuraisword Is there a link that shows what these items are compared to other items? I can't see LOTRO handing out lvl 50 super awesome gear to a bunch of lvl 1's who preordered... perhaps these special items are 1-20 lvl valuable... and then you get upgrades anyway... in which case... what's 2 pieces of gear really matter that much in a game where gear isnt *that* big of a deal? or perhaps these items gain stats with level? I don't know... I have yet to see anything explaining gear/stats on gear/effect of gear for lotro yet the beta rollover is a great idea, I'm not the type to care if people start higher level than me, and imo, it's a good thing, because then on release day a good majority of people who would have logged in the first instant they could will not be hogging the starter areas... :) Retired from WoW |
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1/25/07 1:02:34 PM#22
Originally posted by Samuraisword
Sure there is monster play but that is not a focus of the game. I actually think it's a good idea. Since this is a story based game, you lose a little replayability since who wants to do all the quests "all over again" after they've done them several times in Beta? I think it's all a non issue. Sure, I think the "lifetime" option is a bit of overkill but the 9.99 is good for people who have played it, like the game and know they are going to be playing it for a little bit. |
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1/25/07 2:03:45 PM#23
Turbine had me hooked on this game a looooooong time ago. April can't come fast enough. |
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1/25/07 2:20:25 PM#24
"This Founder’s Offer is available to players located in the U.S. and Canada only. Click here for more details."
We Europeans can go and get f***ed... |
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1/25/07 2:27:56 PM#25
The pre-order specials for Europe are going to be determined by Codemasters and Turbine together. It's likely they will come up with something similar. Also, everyone should note that the pre-order page states that the $9.99 a month deal is only for as long as you maintain an active account, without terminating it. As soon as you cancel the account, whether permanently or temporarily, you will have to re-sub at the regular $14.99 price. So if you're planning on playing it for a while, it's a pretty good idea. Now, if you're absolutely sure you'll be playing it for the next 1.5 years+ and you can afford to drop some money up front, the $200 is the best deal. Of course, you'll still have to buy expansions, but your subscription will always be covered... |
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