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At this year's CES, Carolyn Koh sits down at EverQuest II Senior Producer Scott Hartsman about their new "Estate of Unrest" zone.
You can read the whole article here. You can view new EQII screenshots in our gallery here. Cheers, |
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Ulujain
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Joined: 4/12/03
David Allen''s motto: "Vapourware is my business, and business is good." |
The aggroing through the floors was one of those things that made the original Unrest such an interesting zone.
If you're under 21, then I cannot take your posts seriously. Seriously. |
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Now all we need are more character slots to enable us to try out a better proportion of the 24 classes....
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Recant you obviously are a WoW supporter. You don't know what the classes can do, do you? There aren't 4 classes and the rest feel generic. Try playing and raiding and noticing a difference between a Troubador bard, and a dirge...or a Guardian, or Zerker? You don't know, do you? Please don't comment on what you don't know. WoW only has what, 8 classes? I would like to see more true tank classes and offensive tanks...as well as 2 more cloth casters.
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Originally posted by shadout00 |
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Every time some Dimwit bandies about the 8 mil WOW subscribers I point out that’s also the average Jerry Springer show demographic, both are about as equally educated and usually live in the same Trailer park. SOE has done many things right with EoF, and it has paid off in increased subscribers, but its beyond that SOE is giving EQ II something WoW lacks and that’s depth and a soul. Numbers mean jack in my book. EQII gets better almost daily, can't say that about raidordiecraft. |
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kascrz
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Joined: 10/21/06
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." |
I'm a EQ2 fan myself, but I don't understand the WOW hate. comparing 8mil WOW players to jerry is pretty dumb in my IMHO. Most of the poeple I work with play WOW and as a Radar Tech most of the poeple I work with are pretty smart. WOW is just quick MMO arcade fun plain and simple. Nothing wrong with that, just people like me enjoy EQ2's style more. I'd play both if i had the time honestly. Just becouse i like EQ2 more doesn't make me better than any other MMO player and thats a FACT not an opinion.
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Its not WoW hate, its WoW fanboi hate. About as loved as telemarketing.
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Originally posted by martinj63 And everytime someone makes a comment like this you can pretty much guarantee they have never played WoW EVER. I play both games and I really hate to say, so many things in EoF were taken from WoW (which i'm not even going to start listing here). EQ II is at the point where they are starting to lose creative people in the name of budget constraints and creative differences (Blackguard and Morguard as examples despite what they were paid to say by SoE). Some of the things the community really want, ie: More character slots and a way to make your armor look different then everyone elses armor (ie tints) keeps getting pushed under the rug. I think if they implemented those two things, they would gain many more players from WoW, but instead, they just don't get it and keep chugging on their own course like ole' G.W. Bush and his War on Iraq (and yes i'm drawing a parallel between the thinking between him and the powers that be at SoE, because they both are stuck in the "STAY THE COURSE" mentality no matter how different they try to paint it"
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Originally posted by Ironman2000 Oh come on, who hasn't played WoW at this stage? |
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Nihilx
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Joined: 3/22/04
"It always funny until someone gets hurt... and then it''s just hilarious." -- Bill Hicks |
I haven't played WoW. Nor do I want to. EQII is a solid game. Certainly not perfect or superb, but the only game that indeed keeps getting better.
AC (retired); EQ (retired); DAoC (retired); Horizons (retired); EQII (retired); CoH (retired); AC II (tested); Lineage II (beta); Neocron (tested); Saga of Ryzom (beta); SWG (retired)... |
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the more you screwed up before the more you can improve...
Pi*1337/100 = 42 |
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smartkidz
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Joined: 4/23/05
WTF is a pocket monster?!? Think about it for a while. |
Originally posted by NihilxI agree with you on that except for the part where you say it's the only game that keeps getting better. There's alot of those out there.  
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i bought WoW and started 2 play, i got sick and tired of the game after 13 hours... can't really understand why ppl like it so much .
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Originally posted by Ironman2000And every time someone says this you can tell they don't know anything about the person in question. I've played WoW and I've played EQ2 (as well as about a dozen other MMORPG's) and EQ2 is much better. WoW has no depth, no feeling, and the storyline is lackluster at best. Not so with EQ2. EQ2 is the best game out there right now. |
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I've played many games including WoW. Even though I'm not a fan of SOE or Smed (Grumble) EQ2 is just a better game, hands down.
- edit I'm pretty sure I'm one of the SOE haters he was talking about in that article.
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It is amazing how this game uses the same engine as SWG and has far surpassed that game in terms of expansions, monthly content, player apartments, and innovation . This game has come a long way since release and keeps getting better. It has a pretty cool community as well.
I have played E&B, Eve, SWG, LII, Neocron 2, EQ II, and WoW- Every game gets my kudos of sorts/ But EQ II has done some really cool things that have been handled well by their teams :) 
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Originally posted by Lateris Since then? I remember what they said about the ground up newly developed engine and the particle system. Well not that they could've tricked me (and everyone else)... I give you that 
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DarthHoob
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Joined: 12/24/06
I can resist everything but temptation - Oscar Wilde |
Anyhooo, back on topic (I REFUSE to get dragged into the endless EQ2 vs WoW debate)... Well I'm excited about The Estate of Unrest. I'm not an EQ vet, but I've heard EoU mentioned loads of times ingame, and people always say it was one of the best zones in EQ. If it's as good as Scott says it is, I can understand why they held it back from the EoF release. Here's hoping anyway Currently returned to Norrath after disliking Hyboria. |
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I am just not feeling the growth in the game right now. Subscriptions are up? Really? All I feel is more alts by people I have already been playing with for two years.
I wish SOE would publish the numbers. They know exactly how many subscribers they have, so why not just say that its 125,000 or whatever. It will not ever be the 8 million + that WoW has, but I don't think it needs to, it just needs to be fun. Oh and I have played both. they are different experiences, so no reason to bad on one over the other. |
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I have to echo the apples to oranges distinction on the WOW/EQ2 comparison. Someone criticizes WOW for its raid content--a valid criticism--but the same can be said for EQ2. If I judged every game on whether or not raiding was a requirement at a certain point, I wouldn't have anything left to play. Sad, but a matter of fact currently.
As for the expansion itself and some of the more relevant criticisms, though: Even though all the subscribers would love things like armor tinting, more characters, and more developed class identities, those aren't going to get new subscribers. Let's be a little cynical here--that doesn't mean the game isn't doing well in some areas, but we just have to accept that the driving forces are going to be the ones that have the potential to increase new subscriptions--not just encourage current ones. As long as no one's quitting over those issues, they'll go on the bottom of the priority list. The Fae got numbers up, coupled with the return of GFay. I have to admit, even for myself, those were big selling points, coupled with the combat changes and, frankly, the absence of Moorgard and friends. The best thing the franchise can do for itself right now is distance itself from the name SOE has made for it. That can be accomplished in large part by tending to those elements which would have preferred a different game in the first place. That is--bringing back EQdead. Next expansion, my prediction is Odus. I'd say we'll see Paineel, the Hole, and Erudin. If it's not the next expansion, then it'll be one soon after that. Kunark should be making its way back soon as well. In any case, the other thing I can count on is a new race or two. About the time the new is wearing off the Fae, there'll be a new race, probably an evil one, to take up the novelty and hope to emulate EOF's success. Statistically, expansions don't cause subscriptions to rise. --not really; marginally sure, but no game on a downslope has ever been able to turn itself around by an expansion. I'd like to hope that EOF marks the beginning of an end to this trend though. I know SOE isn't talking, but if they could get me to play again, they could probably get anyone. To that end, this game might end up being competitive yet. Whether or not it can stand up to the likes of Warhammer, however, has yet to be seen. Peace and safety. |
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While I don't entirely agree with your statement about him not playing wow I will agree with EQ2 taking some WoW ideas. It's not a bad thing if they are good ideas. The opposite can't be said about WoW. I play both games and enjoy them a lot... my really frustrating irritation with WoW is their complete retarded take on a LFG system. At first they didnt even have one, then added a chat channel. Now they got a almost useless LFG system and no chat channels anymore. If they'd just steal EQ1 or EQ2's LFG system it'd be great but they insist on this retarded feature of "you can only LFG for here, here and here" crap. You can't just LFG for anything nor can people just list everyone LFG and list them by class and level. This is probably entirely off topic but oh well. |
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I guess they do read my posts.
