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  Lexin

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Joined: 3/09/05
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12/19/06 11:09:40 PM#41

Well is made me pretty upset to find out about this when i had just come back to the game the Sunday before the made the Honor points 30% lower as if it wasnt low enough from the start.It's not just me but alot of people don't have the time to get 22k 40k or whatever the honor is needed to get better gear and weapon.

  I mean not everyone who play's WoW can play 10+ hours a day i was lucky to get on for 4 hours a night and that is just to raid.Unfourtionatly i have decided to give up on WoW not really worth my time and effort because come TBC how will i ever reach 70 when it will be like going from 1-60 again.It took me a little over 6 months to ding 60 and about 2-3 months to get everything ready for end game.

 So at first the last patch was very nice i was excited about the new honor system to re-activate my account (was gonna wait till TBC) but now i have just givin up all hope for Blizzard and WoW.So im gonna leave with saying this."GG Blizzard just made it even harder for people who can't be on 40+ hours a week to get gear and whatnot ready for TBC."

 

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  Hashbrick

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Only jackasses label their PC specs in their sig.

12/19/06 11:22:44 PM#42


Originally posted by Stradden
Hasani Davis returns today with a World of Warcraft Editorial regarding the recent 2.0.1 patch.


With only a little more than a month to go before The Burning Crusade hits stores Blizzard has put out one of the few last patches to Warcraft before the expansion changes the game forever. Patch 2.0.1 finally went live with some dramatic changes to the PvP system that Warcraft had to offer, do not worry, we will discuss those changes shortly. Players were given a Talent refresh to their characters because the talent trees were updated to reflect the upcoming levels in the expansion. So with several new spells, abilities, and pets, the game looked a little different, but it was the same old Warcraft.


Gear, gear, gear, and more gear is what really matters in Before the Storm. Now PvP rewards can be gotten without the ridiculous grind it took players to gain the rank in order to purchase the items. No Wait! For those who did not hear, one week into the new Honor system and Blizzard has changed their minds again. Now there has been a 30% reduction to the honor you gain from PvP. Sound crazy, this was posted on the Blizzard forums Tuesday by Blizzard employee Nethaera:



Read the editorial here.

Just be happy your favorite MMO isn't ran by SOE, there has yet to be anything more catastrophic in the MMO industry then what SWG went through. Blizzard destroyed one thing, easy grinding. SOE destroy the whole game. Think about that, then praise the Blizzard Gods.


Originally posted by imbant

Did we say we were trying to do good for the game? the game is in the hands of aventurine, no one else...

  Kyleran

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Joined: 9/13/06
Posts: 14598

A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf

12/20/06 8:21:43 AM#43

I understand where the author is coming from, people hate to have things given to them, and suddenly yanked away.  Especially when Blizzard's justification seems to be more like... "you guys are gearing up too fast, which might make the game too fun, so we're gonna have to put a stop to that sort of nonsense right now"

It is just another reason among many others that I decided not to play WOW anymore.  BC holds no interest for me... don't want to do it...only to have to do it all over again when the next expansion comes out.  (there really should be a top level cap that never gets lifted..ever...)

MMO developers need to spend more time adding fun content in their games to keep us playing, and less on trying to find ways to throw timesinks into them which grind our souls into the ground.

 

 

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  Ponico

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Joined: 2/01/06
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12/20/06 3:02:25 PM#44

Originally posted by Earley
Geez, another ill-informed half-baked whiny editorial. I only come to MMORPG.com any more to register for the contests and donwload trial games. The editorial staff here is a joke. In fact, most of the stories here aren't any more insightful or better informed than a random World of Warcraft fanboi 1337 post on their forums. Learn to be journalists guys.
Still you find the need to post something like that.

Granted MMORPG is not really known to have the best articles, I personally think that it's nice to see a different point of view. Most sites like IGN and Gamespot will make generic reviews and comments on a game while MMORPG will simply start a discussion.

If you do not agress with the editorial then simply explain why. The stories here don't need to give more info then a Fanboi 1337 post. Where did you hear that this site had more info then anyone else ? If I seriously want more info, I usually consult wikipedia lol.. I found more info about vanguard on that site then anywhere else O_o




  tehnoob

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Joined: 10/27/04
Posts: 20

did i say you could look at my profile?

12/20/06 3:47:45 PM#45

0/10

 

Who pays you to write this junk?  for that matter, who pays the people who run this site

what a fraud

  Azandar

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Joined: 12/21/06
Posts: 1

12/21/06 10:37:06 AM#46
Not a particularly balanced editorial in my opinion. 

The PVP epics remain an order of magnitude more accessible than they were pre-patch even with the 30% honor reduction - I'm a pretty casual player and I have saved up about 11k honor since the patch which will almost get me one epic armor piece.   I am more than happy with this as it is far better than anything I could have grinded for solo in any other way. 

People are acting as if they have a right to get the whole epic set before TBC launches but I'm pretty sure that was not what was intended.
  thalyon

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Joined: 12/24/06
Posts: 1

12/24/06 7:50:52 AM#47

Everyone is very excited about the new releases, and rightly so, it offers new content. But I see the same type of Blizzard grind. PvE grind an alt to lvl 70 to get the third best gear. PvP grind to get the second best gear. Grind the same new 25 max. man instance to get the very best gear. Then go back to PvP because boredom has set in again.

PvP or PvE grind, still the same boring content. Repetition is what is "killing" me on playing WoW. Grind for gold, grind for reputation (PvE/PvP), or grind for levels. The rewards are the same, get the best gear with the greatest amount of "repeat".

Blizzard claims they want more story line content play in the new releases. I still have not figured out how repetition adds to this type of content. Thorium Brothers like me better because I mined 7200 dark iron ore compared to the lazy bum who only killed 300 incendisaurs. They like me so much that they gave me better patterns that require me to grind more for the materials.

Patch 2.0.1: (PvP play) wash, rinse, repeat for second best gear in the game at just 30% slower than initially promised. Helps delay the "I am bored" syndrome. Probably the best thing for Blizzard to do, the change allows for equal grind time on PvP and PvE. And keeps players from quitting the game 30% longer.

  damian7

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Joined: 4/20/06
Posts: 4514

why must i be nice to people that have no clue, are lying, or are just stupid?

12/24/06 7:19:53 PM#48
Originally posted by rythter
I disagree that the 30% adjustment is a bad thing. If everyone can get everything quicker than Blizzard expected then there is no point in it being a "reward". If everything were easy then you would all be complaining that the game is easy mode, the fact that they adjusted to make it slightly (30%) more difficult is a good thing.

I really do not get people who complain about adjustments. They are the same people, it seems, who complain about certain classes being overpowered or underpowered. They do not seem to understand that with balance and adjustment the game becomes more fun for more people rather than more fun for fewer people or less fun for more people.

I think that Blizzard has done a wonderful job so far and I hope that they continue to adjust things and tweak things here and there to keep things fresh (or as fresh as they can) so the game does not stagnate and get abandoned.

let's put this in perspective...

how far along are/were you in your reputations with the three factions and pvp honor rank?

keep in mind, even if you'd pvp'd from the very outset, all your scores for the armor were just set to ZERO.  so, if you were ALMOST to rank 7, 8, whatever, doesn't matter, you just got put back to ZERO.

did you take that into your account of the 30% being a GOOD thing for pvpers?


maybe hunting for rare sand in silithus as a major 'tweak' to world pvp is also your idea of keeping the game fresh?  hunting for sand, in a desert... very incredibly fresh! 

could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  killion81

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Joined: 8/31/06
Posts: 329

12/24/06 7:56:27 PM#49

This is very frustrating to players. I know Blizzard sits atop its seven million player hill but really who makes the decisions over there? It seemed like players who enjoy PvP finally got a chance to catch up to all of the Tier 2-3 armor raid groups and actually compete on an equal playing field. Nope sorry, your play time will be extended. On the edge of Burning Crusade why make this type of switch to players? I guess my question is has Blizzard become to high and mighty on their player base to adjust things that quickly on them? I hate to mention that there are dozens of MMOs coming out in the next year or so, will WoW remain on top of that hill forever? Not with decisions like this one.

If you're really concerned about fairness, how is fair that PvPers could catch up in a few weeks to tier 2 and 3 people who have put months of effort in to get that gear?  The honor adjustment sucks, I agree whole heartedly.  However, it is more fair this way.  Making it super easy to get the PvP rewards sort of trivializes all of the PvE guilds success.

  User Deleted
12/27/06 4:38:41 PM#50

Most if not all MMORPGs are constructed like a mountain.  You start at the bottom and start climbing up.  Once you arrive at the top you will be very glad and proud but when that fades away you will ask "what now?"   There is a limited amount of options open to you when you are standing on top of a mountain.  Most people will start to climb back down and leave the mountain behind.

Blizzards job is to delay you from reaching the peak and asking "what now?"  Blizzard is very good at this.  If the path up the mountain was a easy and fast one they would lose subscriptions faster; for a company, that is a bad thing. 

The thing that is strange to many of us is that they are giving us a new challenge (60-70 with new RARE gear that will make EPIC HWL gear worthless) and at the same time dalaying the amount of time required to get gear that will be sold as scrap in a months time.  It appears to be a stupid move on Blizzards part, unless we can trade in our old HWL gear for new level 70 stuff when we get there, but like i said above blizzards job is to delay you from getting it so don't hold your breath.

  Bleakmage

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Joined: 12/06/04
Posts: 135

I cut my teeth on Pong. \m/

12/30/06 5:56:51 AM#51
Back in my day (i.e., Asheron's Call) You got the quest, you went and rubbed out the baddie or whatever, you got your special armor, wha la! I hear people complaining about it to this person 2 seconds to get something whereas it's taking me 50 years. So what. Imagine how good you would feel if it had been you that got it in two seconds as opposed to fifty years. So whats this deal where you have to put set amount of hours into something to get said something else? Wouldn't it be fun if you killed a boss only once, could not kill him again in your time continuum cause he/she/it is dead, but hey, he/she/it drops all the crap that they were wearing/using, you and your buds divvy up the spoils, and go find other koo, mismatched gear to wear. . .or something. . .

Some of these newer games coming out like Vanguard and the other V game sound like they'll be much less anal, and much more fun. Fun is the key word.

If any of this makes no sense, it's ok. I need to sleep. Forgive me. :D
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