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  -Rodriguez-

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12/10/06 9:47:50 AM#161

Originally posted by Beatnik59

Laugh it up, EVEangenlists...

If EVE continues to be nominated and win categories where they suffer problems, they'll take that as a sign that there are no problems with EVE as it stands. 



I doubt that will happen... The CCP guys have a vision of where things are going and I seriously hope that no awards or whinage will ever change this.



Originally posted by Beatnik59

One of these days, a game that is far worse than EVE Online will be able to rally far more voters than you, and it will start winning awards EVE should win.

...

  Soon, perhaps very soon, awards that should rightfully go to EVE will go to games that suck far worse than EVE



There is no such thing as an "award that should rightfully go to EVE" and I doubt that a game that sucks could rally the fans so much that they are willing to out vote everything else.


  kaletainer

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12/10/06 2:21:55 PM#162
This awards thread along with this makes at least one thing clear. That CCP has created a community that Blizzard and Sony and the others  have not come close to being able to develope.  Based on shear numbers, WoW takes the cake. EVE shouldn't even be in the finals if the other games bases showed similar support for the game they spend their time and money on, and yet they are a finalist. It is a large blemish on the other companies that they can not make comparable showing in the poll.

(One person voting multiple times under different accounts is a moot point for all the games attempting to be represented with this poll as a fan in any of the games can do it. Because games other than EVE have a larger subscription base, you would expect more of these kinds of things occur for those games. Making EVE fall behind even farther in the poll, which has not occurred.)

Even if EVE loses, the other companies should be asking themselves why CCP was able to come up with this kind of showing in the first place. Sure Blizzard and Sony have the large subscription base, but that base doesn't seem to care about the game they play.

edit: Or maybe Blizzard and Sony just don't let their subscribers know that this kind of poll is going on. Which doesn't make much sense, because it is free publicity (and what kind of company would turn that down?).
  mehoron

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12/10/06 3:23:55 PM#163
EvE has PvE? I've been remiss for so long! As for it not being a strategy game, or a game of witts. I can direct you to the Alliance and Corporation forum where people are using confucian philosophy to break the will of other Corporations and alliances breaking down their funds, and minds until they can get a spy to start a civil war. Now that's strategy.
  Chidori30

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The lesson of a memory I hold dear...in my heart"To find peace, I must look within myself"

12/10/06 4:12:43 PM#164

I actualy joined this site today mainly beacuse of a post to another forum about the readers choice awards.  When I looked and saw the 2 contenders and the fact that they appear to be even in all respects I kinda though that some "new blood" would help this process.  The big glaring things were things like the graphics ratings etc.  EVE online is a nice game for many things (ie the economy and the business end etc) but one thing it does not do well in is graphics.  Yes they are nice, but they certainly aren't original or even imaginative.  I was very surprised to see them in the best graphics category.  Anyhow this is obviously isn't honest voting or the people who play eve have never played any other games and so have no comparison (which I find hard to believe hehe) . 

Anyhow so now I come to vote as well to help remove games from categories they have no bussiness being in. (I also hate WoW hehe but I think they do good in the realm of graphics)  It looks to me like a lot of people are just blindely voting cause they want their game to win cause its fun and they are not taking into account its shortcomings

anyhow bye

 

 

~Q~

  b14tch

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12/10/06 4:35:00 PM#165

Originally posted by PB&J
EVE is one of the finalists for PvE? Give me a break. EVE's PvE is absoultey horrible. Your awards are being completely trashed by a link on the EVE forums telling their fans to come over here and vote.

I'm suprised the most anticipated game cateogry didn't have a selction for "EVE: Upcoming, but as of yet unannounced, expansion"

I voted for all the games that weren't EVE just so it doesn't win. I think WoW sucks for the most part as well but just voted for it so EVE wouldn't win.




Agreed.... Eve and WOW..hmm.. so overrated game... Most of players of those game have tons of time to vote... I'd played both games for few months.. Nothing really really special about that... Trust me, next year, gonna be same all over again... I dont even trust the game rating on this site anymore..   
  Chidori30

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The lesson of a memory I hold dear...in my heart"To find peace, I must look within myself"

12/10/06 4:48:50 PM#166


Originally posted by b14tch
Agreed.... Eve and WOW..hmm.. so overrated game... Most of players of those game have tons of time to vote... I'd played both games for few months.. Nothing really really special about that... Trust me, next year, gonna be same all over again... I dont even trust the game rating on this site anymore..   

I kinda got stuck at the "which 2 of these games did you like in 2006" they needed to add a none of the above or something for a lot of this stuff. 

In that case it was neither since like many I played it till i hit the level cap and left (just after the battlegrounds were introduced)

Anyhow Maybe if we get more involved they wont be in the rankings anymore although by sheer subscriber level WoW can and possibly will win everytime I suppose , but honestly looking at it most people stay with WoW or have played WoW for one reason or another if there is something better I suppose we have to take the time to vote for it hehe


~Q~

  -Rodriguez-

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12/10/06 5:34:31 PM#167

Originally posted by ummax

Yes they are nice, but they certainly aren't original or even imaginative.  I was very surprised to see them in the best graphics category.  Anyhow this is obviously isn't honest voting or the people who play eve have never played any other games and so have no comparison (which I find hard to believe hehe) . 

Anyhow so now I come to vote as well to help remove games from categories they have no bussiness being in. (I also hate WoW hehe but I think they do good in the realm of graphics)  It looks to me like a lot of people are just blindely voting cause they want their game to win cause its fun and they are not taking into account its shortcomings



So you say the graphics of eve are bad but wow is good.
I say the graphic in eve is very good but wow was outdated before it even hit the stores.

Now, who is blindly Voting? You? Me?
All categorys are highly subjective but apparently only a minority of this forum wants to accept this and blames others of "cheating" in the votes.
 
  Chidori30

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The lesson of a memory I hold dear...in my heart"To find peace, I must look within myself"

12/10/06 6:37:32 PM#168

I didnt come to enter a debate with you I pointed out that there are a lot of games out there with better graphics and I can't for the life of me figure out how a game with outdated old graphics got onto a readers choice awards nor do I wish to speculate on why it did either....

 I also didn't come here to be flamed or accused of stuff I didn't say!

 

For the record I would like to vote for none of these because there is MUCH better out there it simply doesn't give me the option I can only choose from the two listed which in my opinion neither of them diserve the best graphics award category period.  That is the point ....

~Q~

  killkool

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Joined: 7/29/04
Posts: 62

12/10/06 7:28:40 PM#169

 

Eve for the win, and not that children game WOW, where can be lvl 40 in two days.

  zaxxon23

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12/10/06 7:49:31 PM#170
Wow will win a lot of these, but not because it deserves to.  Only because the rest of the market is pretty much pure trash.  When the hell are MMO developers gonna make an MMO with the gameplay of wow combined with compelling content and good crafting?  Is that really too much to ask for?
  Patch8686

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Joined: 11/20/06
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12/10/06 8:59:34 PM#171

Originally posted by ummax

I didnt come to enter a debate with you I pointed out that there are a lot of games out there with better graphics and I can't for the life of me figure out how a game with outdated old graphics got onto a readers choice awards nor do I wish to speculate on why it did either....




EVE is starting to show its age, but it still is a gorgeous game- watching a battle in EVE or flying through some of the beautiful environments still gives me tingles every time, and there isn't another game that can claim that. However high tech the engine is, I honestly can't see myself getting tingles over elves and wizards.

I expect there were more deserving games to make it in tot hat category, though- how WoW got in there was a joke.
  Zyber

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12/16/06 6:41:17 AM#172
Gah!!! Dark Age of Camelot have the best PVP System :D
  User Deleted
12/16/06 11:07:56 AM#173

Ok make a cuppa tea… you’ll be here a while.  BTW this is a Pro WoW post.

I played EVE once... over an hour into the tutorial I was lost and confused, a very hard game to get into which is why it has such low player figures I guess,  but a friend of mine plays and he loves it but for me I want to play a game not listen to a VERY annoying voice for 2 hours.

MMORPG.com is 90% wow haters we all know that but I’m sure a good number of the haters haven’t even played the game which is sad.

 
Wow PVE

Wow has great PvE from 1-60 (the first time round) you can do it solo or group and believe me it much better in a group, and to the guys who say "I got to 60 in 2 weeks", can I ask do you have a job/school? u must of played for 15 hours a day 7 days a weeks and just grinded mobs.. sounds like u botted the whole thing, took me about 3.5 months form 1-60 my first time around playing about 20 hours a week.

Yes End game PvE is a bore but most playersguilds bring it upon themselves.  As soon a new dungeon is opened they don’t spend the time to learn how to kill the bosses etc they go straight to Google and get a guide of how to do it, thus taking all the fun out of the whole experience.

 
WoW PvP

Wow also has the best PvP of any MMORPG I’ve ever played And I have played many, Guild wars (call that PvP?). 

But PvP is what you make it, currently my alliance guild have what we call "30 minute rumbles" with a horde guild on our server, We go to a secluded area of the game world near a grave-yard and just fight it out for 30mins none stop, the horde leader and alliance leader have a mod called "kill count" that counts how many times each side has lost a player and after the fight we see who has won, its great fun, both sides are mic'd up so we can shout, swear etc.  Beats the hell out of running BWL for the 30th time, what other game can you see 80 players battling it out?

We also raid horde capital citys atleast once a week and with the new patch we can kill vendors, quest gives and just simply wipe the whole city out while the horde players and town guards try to stop us. TOP FUN!

WoW PvP and controlling the character in general is so fluid it a joy, you can jump over obstacles, hide behind objects, go swimming etc. I’ve not seen this any other MMO do this, guildwarz wins the "WTB jump button" and the “omg another invisible wall” award.

 
WoW GFX

So much bashing of wow gfx going on, you have to remember art direction as well as gfx, wow never was designed to have realistic graphics it when for the cartoonanim look. Where as games like EVE, GW, EQ went more for realistic graphics, but ask your self this, In 3 years which graphics will look more dated?

 
Wow community

Many here say wow community....full of kids, with 7 million players there will be some kids, but get your self into a guild and get communicating, nothing like login on and getting a whisper from a guild member who wants a hand with a quest or there’s a space in a Raid that needs filling.  As with PvP its down to you to get active in the community.

 

Yes WoW can be classed as a simple/dumb down game, but its still the only Pickup'n'Play MMORPG out there, but If you enjoy sitting through 2 hours tutorials wondering around towns cus you don’t know what to do, then go ahead and enjoy EVE and EQ.



Wow for president!!

  BronxChulo

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Where''s the liquor?

12/17/06 7:54:07 AM#174

Seriously this "voting" is a joke.  I don't know who made up the rules for this but you guys need to sit down and rethink them.  Horrible, just horrible!

First off, how can EVE Online, which came out in 2003, be even in the run for best graphics of 2006?  If your going to have the best graphics of '06 then it should be for games that came out in '06, or games that had new graphics added or redon to make them better.  You should have just called it best graphics of all time, and leave out the damn year.

Second, the fact the almost all the choices for all your questions involved either Eve Online or WoW is screwed up.  You fan boys seriously need to play other games.  Who made up the rules for these questions, and made the decision that all the questions will involve answering Eve Online or WoW.

Third, you should have had the "trash can" option for all the questions like you did for the one.  I only voted on one question and the was the one for Most Anticipated, Star Trek Online.  All the other questions and answers were garbage, which is where they belong.

This voting this year is a stright dissappointment to all the other games out there who are not Eve Online and WoW.  Again I will say it, HORRIBLE, just HORRIBLE!

  Reklaw

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12/17/06 9:03:50 AM#175


Originally posted by PB&J
EVE is one of the finalists for PvE? Give me a break. EVE's PvE is absoultey horrible. Your awards are being completely trashed by a link on the EVE forums telling their fans to come over here and vote.

I'm suprised the most anticipated game cateogry didn't have a selction for "EVE: Upcoming, but as of yet unannounced, expansion"

I voted for all the games that weren't EVE just so it doesn't win. I think WoW sucks for the most part as well but just voted for it so EVE wouldn't win.



So you are actualy saying to be just as stupid as those that had voted for EVE pve and i don't mean this with disrespect but really you are doing the same thing, so next time be fare to yourself before judging others.

I could not cast any vote on EVE as i have 0 exp in that game and from the choises that where giving by all of use and summed up into the Finalist votes i had not much choise then mostly cast my voice upon WOW wich i felt was fair.


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  Reklaw

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12/17/06 9:58:37 AM#176

Originally posted by BronxChulo

Seriously this "voting" is a joke.  I don't know who made up the rules for this but you guys need to sit down and rethink them.  Horrible, just horrible!

They did an open nomination process this year and took any game that got over 10% of the vote in its category in the finals. The results were rather focused, with EVE and World of Warcraft being up for most every award. Check out the finalists and cast your votes.

Here are our seven categories:

  • Favorite Graphics: Won last year by EVE Online, this category was open to all games on the market, but only two survived the first round of voting.
  • Favorite PvE: World of Warcraft was selected by our readers last year as their Favorite PvE Experience. Do they have what it takes to retain the crown? This category, again, was open to all games in commercial service, but again, only two made it to the finals.
  • Favorite PvP: EVE Online was your favorite PvP experience last year. Did a year change anything? Once again, two made it to the last round..
  • Favorite Story: The Saga of Ryzom pulled off an upset victory last year. Now, with the Ryzom Ring can they retain their crown as the favorite world/role-playing/backstory of any released MMORPG on our list? Three games challenge.
  • Most Anticipated: Open to all games that have yet to launch, last year's winner Dungeons and Dragons Online has hit the market. Who will take home the crown this year? An amazing six games will duke it out.
  • Favorite New Game: This category is from a list of games that launched to commercial service in 2006 and is the only new category in this year's awards. Who, if anyone, deserves the crown?
  • Favorite Game: Finally, from among those games on the market, what is your favorite MMORPG? Last year, the voters said EVE. Will it be them or a challenger with the trophy?
Begin voting by clicking here.

First off, how can EVE Online, which came out in 2003, be even in the run for best graphics of 2006?  If your going to have the best graphics of '06 then it should be for games that came out in '06, or games that had new graphics added or redon to make them better.  You should have just called it best graphics of all time, and leave out the damn year. This only shows that from the game released this year there was nothing that topped the games that people are still playing otherwise don't you think we would have had other games in the list ????

Second, the fact the almost all the choices for all your questions involved either Eve Online or WoW is screwed up.  You fan boys seriously need to play other games.  Who made up the rules for these questions, and made the decision that all the questions will involve answering Eve Online or WoW. These questions are i think made up from what was collected on semi final rounds again the opinions of the majority.

Third, you should have had the "trash can" option for all the questions like you did for the one.  I only voted on one question and the was the one for Most Anticipated, Star Trek Online.  All the other questions and answers were garbage, which is where they belong. Maybe next time bring your friends from the games you socalled enjoy more even thou i havn't read one single comment in your text saying wich games these are, also i feel nobody is forcing you to cast your vote, maybe you didn't know but you have the freedom to vote or not to vote thats all up to you, for me if i didn't find anything intresting to vote for i just simply would not vote.

This voting this year is a stright dissappointment to all the other games out there who are not Eve Online and WoW.  Again I will say it, HORRIBLE, just HORRIBLE!, What other games name a few please, i don't think that everyone that plays wow is instantly a wowfanboy/girl, i just hope that gamedevelops look at this outcome with shame because in a way you are right and all this is horrible just for the fact nothing came along in gaming better and with a hugher crowed then the Finalist did.


oops i did it again...but had too

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  stonebred

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12/18/06 7:05:39 AM#177

I have to say it, although I know it's been said before.

All of you folks who are ragging on the "READER'S CHOICE" votes need to rethink YOUR position.
This is the READER'S CHOICE. It doesn't have to make sense (as in some cases it does not). It truly does give you a great opportunity to see what the community is made up of. Knowing now what the community here is made up of, don't you think it silly to rip all of those people a new one?

Too often I see people flaying the staff and moderators here for topics that are beyond their control. I believe I read another post somewhere in the 18 pages of posts here, that also said what I'm about to...

MMORPG.com puts this vote up for the benefit of its readership. They are not forced to, it's a service they provide to promote discussion (and obviously it worked!). I highly doubt that they would have "rigged" the vote - that's just plain stupid.

So I guess my point is, stop complaining about how horrible it is and rigged and blah blah blah, etc etc etc.
Instead, take comfort in the fact that we have a staff and moderators here that take the time to ask the readership what THEY think, whether it makes sense or not. Come on people, give credit where credit is due at least!

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  Maxzius

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12/18/06 8:33:53 AM#178

Originally posted by Lepidus

Originally posted by Naar

Ok I'd like to be the first to say that your desicion to use open voting then only take the game that got 10% for finals voting made this the lamest Reader's Choice awards I've ever seen. Sure people complained last time that you bascially told them who they could vote for but you made it a hundred time worse.

You might as well call it the EVE vs WoW awards...you seriously need to re think this entire process if this is the result.


Obviously, the way things worked out was not ideal, but ultimately, this is the Reader's Choice Awards. We cannot stop them from voting for EVE and WOW.

Next year, I suspect we'll revisit the format again.

You'd better because this is a joke.

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  bluesugar

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12/18/06 9:15:42 AM#179
Don't know if anyone remembers Jethro Tull beating out Metallica for the new Heavy Metal category at the grammy's. Yeah, this award contest is just like that...
  stonebred

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12/18/06 10:59:50 AM#180


Originally posted by Maxzius

Originally posted by Lepidus


Originally posted by Naar
Ok I'd like to be the first to say that your desicion to use open voting then only take the game that got 10% for finals voting made this the lamest Reader's Choice awards I've ever seen. Sure people complained last time that you bascially told them who they could vote for but you made it a hundred time worse.
You might as well call it the EVE vs WoW awards...you seriously need to re think this entire process if this is the result.


Obviously, the way things worked out was not ideal, but ultimately, this is the Reader's Choice Awards. We cannot stop them from voting for EVE and WOW.Next year, I suspect we'll revisit the format again.


You'd better because this is a joke.


Actually, I believe that by him saying they will "Revisit the format again" - that means they're going to use the same format again next year - but please correct me if I'm wrong. ::::28::

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