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Dana Novice Member Joined: 1/07/04 Posts: 2425	12/05/06 3:07:25 PM#1 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) We did an open nomination process this year and took any game that got over 10% of the vote in its category in the finals. The results were rather focused, with EVE and World of Warcraft being up for most every award. Check out the finalists and cast your votes. Here are our seven categories: Favorite Graphics: Won last year by EVE Online, this category was open to all games on the market, but only two survived the first round of voting. Favorite PvE: World of Warcraft was selected by our readers last year as their Favorite PvE Experience. Do they have what it takes to retain the crown? This category, again, was open to all games in commercial service, but again, only two made it to the finals. Favorite PvP: EVE Online was your favorite PvP experience last year. Did a year change anything? Once again, two made it to the last round.. Favorite Story: The Saga of Ryzom pulled off an upset victory last year. Now, with the Ryzom Ring can they retain their crown as the favorite world/role-playing/backstory of any released MMORPG on our list? Three games challenge. Most Anticipated: Open to all games that have yet to launch, last year's winner Dungeons and Dragons Online has hit the market. Who will take home the crown this year? An amazing six games will duke it out. Favorite New Game: This category is from a list of games that launched to commercial service in 2006 and is the only new category in this year's awards. Who, if anyone, deserves the crown? Favorite Game: Finally, from among those games on the market, what is your favorite MMORPG? Last year, the voters said EVE. Will it be them or a challenger with the trophy? Begin voting by clicking here. Dana Massey Formerly of MMORPG.com Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
remyburke Hard Core Member Joined: 7/03/04 Posts: 2266 Good king, great king, and yet not greatly good.	12/05/06 3:20:39 PM#2 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) You guys really do listen sometimes. Thanks for adding the "None of the Above" option I was crying for a couple of weeks ago. 2006 was a year to forget as far as new MMOs go... Playing: SWTOR and Skyrim Waiting for: GW2, TSW and ArcheAge
Naar Novice Member Joined: 9/18/04 Posts: 165	12/05/06 3:21:27 PM#3 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Ok I'd like to be the first to say that your desicion to use open voting then only take the game that got 10% for finals voting made this the lamest Reader's Choice awards I've ever seen. Sure people complained last time that you bascially told them who they could vote for but you made it a hundred time worse. You might as well call it the EVE vs WoW awards...you seriously need to re think this entire process if this is the result.
Dana Novice Member Joined: 1/07/04 Posts: 2425	12/05/06 3:23:24 PM#4 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Naar Ok I'd like to be the first to say that your desicion to use open voting then only take the game that got 10% for finals voting made this the lamest Reader's Choice awards I've ever seen. Sure people complained last time that you bascially told them who they could vote for but you made it a hundred time worse. You might as well call it the EVE vs WoW awards...you seriously need to re think this entire process if this is the result. Obviously, the way things worked out was not ideal, but ultimately, this is the Reader's Choice Awards. We cannot stop them from voting for EVE and WOW. Next year, I suspect we'll revisit the format again. Dana Massey Formerly of MMORPG.com Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
achesoma Advanced Member Joined: 5/05/05 Posts: 451	12/05/06 3:27:42 PM#5 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I want to know why STO is on the most anticipated list? I am looking forward to playing STO but I dont think it will be out for a long time compared to others on the list which are supposed to come out this year. I dont think STO will go live til 2009 IMO. They don't even have an official site up yet.
jrgambit Novice Member Joined: 10/12/05 Posts: 157	12/05/06 3:28:33 PM#6 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by remyburke You guys really do listen sometimes. Thanks for adding the "None of the Above" option I was crying for a couple of weeks ago. 2006 was a year to forget as far as new MMOs go... maybe im blind, but i didnt see that option, so I guess i cant vote since i would vote in only one or two of the seven categories. -------------------- SWG - Killed by $OE WOW - Retired Playing WAR
Dana Novice Member Joined: 1/07/04 Posts: 2425	12/05/06 3:28:36 PM#7 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by achesoma I want to know why STO is on the most anticipated list? I am looking forward to playing STO but I dont think it will be out for a long time compared to others on the list which are supposed to come out this year. I dont think STO will go live til 2009 IMO. They don't even have an official site up yet. Because a significant percentage of you guys voted for it in the first round and it's on our game list. Dana Massey Formerly of MMORPG.com Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
Dana Novice Member Joined: 1/07/04 Posts: 2425	12/05/06 3:29:57 PM#8 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by jrgambit Originally posted by remyburke You guys really do listen sometimes. Thanks for adding the "None of the Above" option I was crying for a couple of weeks ago. 2006 was a year to forget as far as new MMOs go... maybe im blind, but i didnt see that option, so I guess i cant vote since i would vote in only one or two of the seven categories. It's only an option in "Best of 2006". Dana Massey Formerly of MMORPG.com Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
checkthis500 Novice Member Joined: 9/15/05 Posts: 1234	12/05/06 3:44:23 PM#9 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I personally found it strange that EVE got voted in for best PvE. The game is amazing, but PvE it just doesn't have. Eh, oh well. If they win out, I'll definitely laugh. --------------------------------------------- I live to fight, and fight to live.
Dana Novice Member Joined: 1/07/04 Posts: 2425	12/05/06 3:46:56 PM#10 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by checkthis500 I personally found it strange that EVE got voted in for best PvE. The game is amazing, but PvE it just doesn't have. Eh, oh well. If they win out, I'll definitely laugh. Which is exactly why we did nominations last year ;) Some people just pick "their game" over and over. It's not just EVE, a lot of games got some odd vote totals (although few broke 10% like EVE did). Dana Massey Formerly of MMORPG.com Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
Durthu Novice Member Joined: 8/04/06 Posts: 29	12/05/06 3:51:17 PM#11 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) When it comes to voting, anything is possible. ie: Bush vs Gore. Heck, Bush should win the PvE catogory.. lol.. he has no chance in the PVP
PB&J Novice Member Joined: 9/20/05 Posts: 255	12/05/06 3:59:59 PM#12 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) EVE is one of the finalists for PvE? Give me a break. EVE's PvE is absoultey horrible. Your awards are being completely trashed by a link on the EVE forums telling their fans to come over here and vote. I'm suprised the most anticipated game cateogry didn't have a selction for "EVE: Upcoming, but as of yet unannounced, expansion" I voted for all the games that weren't EVE just so it doesn't win. I think WoW sucks for the most part as well but just voted for it so EVE wouldn't win.
User Deleted	12/05/06 4:04:22 PM#13 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by PB&J EVE is one of the finalists for PvE? Give me a break. EVE's PvE is absoultey horrible. Your awards are being completely trashed by a link on the EVE forums telling their fans to come over here and vote. I'm suprised the most anticipated game cateogry didn't have a selction for "EVE: Upcoming, but as of yet unannounced, expansion" I voted for all the games that weren't EVE just so it doesn't win. I think WoW sucks for the most part as well but just voted for it so EVE wouldn't win. If a game company cares enough to get involved in their community, that speaks loads about the game right there. It’s not CCP's fault other companies don’t get involved with there community. There is absolutely nothing wrong with getting your community involved in marketing your game.
Minsc Advanced Member Joined: 2/07/04 Posts: 1212	12/05/06 4:06:41 PM#14 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) EVE should never have gotten considered for PVE, Everything else but certainly not PVE.
PB&J Novice Member Joined: 9/20/05 Posts: 255	12/05/06 4:10:27 PM#15 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Mrbloodworth If a game company cares enough to get involved in their community, that speaks loads about the game right there. It’s not CCP's fault other companies don’t get involved with there community. There is absolutely nothing wrong with getting your community involved in marketing your game. My problem with it is that those people don't represent the MMORPG community as a whole, they came here to vote for EVEN and most of them will turn around and leave. I won't even get into the game itself. That has been done to death.
Dana Novice Member Joined: 1/07/04 Posts: 2425	12/05/06 4:13:02 PM#16 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by PB&J My problem with it is that those people don't represent the MMORPG community as a whole, they came here to vote for EVEN and most of them will turn around and leave. I won't even get into the game itself. That has been done to death. Well, on the cynical side, we don't run the site for charity and anything that expands our community is good. So we want people to link the awards. EVE did link, but I should point out that the awards have been up for an hour and there are links on PotBS and Warhammer already. Anyone can link who wants to ;) Dana Massey Formerly of MMORPG.com Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
zxny Novice Member Joined: 5/14/06 Posts: 57 To claim you know everything only States you know nothing	12/05/06 4:14:34 PM#17 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Isn't that strange. Two Complete opposite mmos(in my opioion) are owning the votes so far. Eve defintly appeals to those hard core and long term benefit type of gamers while wow is for the "casual" gamer and the "mindless" gamer. Eve requires immense thought and major strategy if you wanna be big. Wow requires mindless grinding and grinding. Two complete opposites in my opioion. As for why Eve did make it again just look at the 2 diffrent types of gamers I described. 1 Game does and has been listening to the communty while Another even if they wanted to couldn't listen to the communty 100% as they've grown bigger then they realize. As for the people complaining about Eve making it into the PvE catagory...seriously go vote or something.. Thats sad that you guys even want to complain because obviously theres a big majorty of people that do believe in or at least care about there game enough to vote for it. Remeber guys these are votes that mmorpg.com doesn't HAVE to put up and yet they do. Yet Ive seen some of you almost go borderline rude with saying that these votes are rigged....Why would a site set up a vote just to have it rigged? Anyways I love the trash choice as personally I thought so myself. 2006 is pathetic of a year for the mmorpg industry and maybe the industry is just hibernating for the explosive awaking in 2007. At Least I hope so.
piquet Novice Member Joined: 7/18/04 Posts: 119	12/05/06 4:18:26 PM#18 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) The biggest surprise for me was that EQ2 didn't qualify for the PvE finals, and the fact that EVE Online did(!). I have nothing against EVE and I think it's superior in both graphics and PvP, but the PvE in this game is almost non-existent and certainly not very interesting. How the hell can anyone even think about voting for EVE in this category!?
PB&J Novice Member Joined: 9/20/05 Posts: 255	12/05/06 4:21:37 PM#19 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by zxny Isn't that strange. Two Complete opposite mmos(in my opioion) are owning the votes so far. Eve defintly appeals to those hard core and long term benefit type of gamers while wow is for the "casual" gamer and the "mindless" gamer. Eve requires immense thought and major strategy if you wanna be big. Wow requires mindless grinding and grinding. Two complete opposites in my opioion. As for why Eve did make it again just look at the 2 diffrent types of gamers I described. 1 Game does and has been listening to the communty while Another even if they wanted to couldn't listen to the communty 100% as they've grown bigger then they realize. As for the people complaining about Eve making it into the PvE catagory...seriously go vote or something.. Thats sad that you guys even want to complain because obviously theres a big majorty of people that do believe in or at least care about there game enough to vote for it. Remeber guys these are votes that mmorpg.com doesn't HAVE to put up and yet they do. Yet Ive seen some of you almost go borderline rude with saying that these votes are rigged....Why would a site set up a vote just to have it rigged? Anyways I love the trash choice as personally I thought so myself. 2006 is pathetic of a year for the mmorpg industry and maybe the industry is just hibernating for the explosive awaking in 2007. At Least I hope so. The trash choice was great. I agree with that. 2006 couldn't have been any wore for MMOG's. I did vote. I'm just frustrated that it appears EVE fans "mindlessly" voted for EVE without giving consideration to any other game in any category. They seemed to have voted straight ticket EVE. EVE certainly does deserve its praise in the PvP category. Its just sad that games like DAoC or Lineage II (good end game PvP) didn't make the final cut in that category and a PvP snoozer like WoW did. But, these are the readers choice awards. I guess I'm just in the minority when I considered nominating a game in a category not just because I liked the game but because it deserved to be nominated in that category.
nthnaoun Novice Member Joined: 7/27/05 Posts: 1428	12/05/06 4:24:11 PM#20 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Looks like voters weren't voting with objectivity like they should have on some of those. Readers choice rewards suck, because the readers can't be trusted to give an unbiased vote. This was more like a popularity contest than anything else. I mean common? EvE for best PvE? We all know EvE is a great game and has excellent PvP, but PvE? Popularity contest for sure. I hope others join me and stop voting for these stupid things, because we already have a popularity contest on the front page. MMORPG.COM staff needs to start acting like the adults and take control of these contests and vote for the MMORPG community in the world with objectivity. EDIT: Another thing. I think you all should choose the best of every category, because people like me read this site for expert opinion. You all are professional writers or at least have college level journalism skill and know what objectivity is. It is you, who have this skill combined with MMORPG expertise and experience that we look up to, to tell us which games out there are the best. Some of us look to your expert opinion to tip us in the right direction. We may be sitting on the fense between 5 games to buy and we can only afford one, which the decision would then become easier by reading the "experts" objective opinion on the matter.
User Deleted	12/05/06 4:26:19 PM#21 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by PB&J Originally posted by Mrbloodworth If a game company cares enough to get involved in their community, that speaks loads about the game right there. It’s not CCP's fault other companies don’t get involved with there community. There is absolutely nothing wrong with getting your community involved in marketing your game. My problem with it is that those people don't represent the MMORPG community as a whole, they came here to vote for EVEN and most of them will turn around and leave. I won't even get into the game itself. That has been done to death. I didn’t know this site was exclusive to only MMORPG readers. I guess the MMO that MMORPG published is "Forum wars", because i do believe everyone else that reads this site...does play an MMO, that MMORPG didn’t make... I’m really confused. Becouse i thought MMO player were MMORPG.coms community.
thepatriot Novice Member Joined: 12/26/05 Posts: 260	12/05/06 4:26:34 PM#22 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) The None of the Above needs to be available on all the questions. I mean some of us play something other than EVE and Warcraft.
Dana Novice Member Joined: 1/07/04 Posts: 2425	12/05/06 4:27:33 PM#23 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by nthnaoun Looks like voters weren't voting with objectivity like they should have on some of those. Readers choice rewards suck, because the readers can't be trusted to give an unbiased vote. This was more like a popularity contest than anything else. I mean common? EvE for best PvE? We all know EvE is a great game and has excellent PvP, but PvE? Popularity contest for sure. I hope others join me and stop voting for these stupid things, because we already have a popularity contest on the front page. MMORPG.COM staff needs to start acting like the adults and take control of these contests and vote for the MMORPG community in the world with objectivity. We do Editorial Awards too, you know ;) These are easy to do and fun for the community. They are a popularity contest, of course, but that's sort of the point. Dana Massey Formerly of MMORPG.com Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
Dana Novice Member Joined: 1/07/04 Posts: 2425	12/05/06 4:28:37 PM#24 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by thepatriot The None of the Above needs to be available on all the questions. I mean some of us play something other than EVE and Warcraft. ...and that is why we left the preliminary voting open to all games. The none of the above is a one time thing that you guys basically voted in by voting in lower numbers in that particular category (as compared to others). All six other categories had roughly the same number of votes cast, while that one had about 30% less votes. That to me was enough to make me think people wanted a none of the above. Dana Massey Formerly of MMORPG.com Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
PB&J Novice Member Joined: 9/20/05 Posts: 255	12/05/06 4:30:30 PM#25 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Mrbloodworth I didn’t know this site was exclusive to only MMORPG readers. I guess the MMO that MMORPG published is "Forum wars", because i do believe everyone else that reads this site...does play an MMO, that MMORPG didn’t make... I’m really confused. Becouse i thought MMO player were MMORPG.coms community. Point taken. To bad you missed mine.