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Lepidus  11/17/06 3:14:35 PM

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Steve Wilson looks at why he believes WoW has held players' attention despite what pundits had predicted. Each week, we try to bring you a range of editorials, including one focused on World of Warcraft.

Two years later and I find myself doing something I’ve never done in any other MMORPG, I’m still playing World of Warcraft. As a casual player I should have long since gotten bored and moved on. It only took 6 months with EverQuest, six months with Asheron’s Call, three days with Ultima Online, three months with World War II Online and Planetside and about a year with Star Wars Galaxies. WoW has not only kept me playing longer than all the others, but kept me active and interested in it nearly the whole time.

The whole editorial is here.

 
Mrbloodworth  11/17/06 3:28:31 PM

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"pleasantly paralyzed"

After two years of "casual" play, what’s your level?

And what is your definition of casual?

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phoebtacular  11/17/06 3:36:12 PM

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This is rich.. just 2 days after WoW erroneously bans users who are using Linux/CEdega you come out with this warm fuzzy about WoW.

 

I wonder who's lining your pockets??

 

From MMORPG News

Linux users getting banned from WoW?
Posted Nov 15, 2006 at 09:33PM by Victor B.
 
Listed in: World of Warcraft, News
Tags: Blizzard, Linux, Cedega, TransGaming This does not bode well for Linux gamers, and it's a weird coincidence that we hear about this a few days after announcing Wine on the site. It seems that Linux-using World of Warcraft players are getting banned left and right.

 

Current speculation among the members of the WoW community, Linux and non-Linux alike, is an attempt to ban users of third party software who use said software to cheat the game. Unfortunately, users of Cedega, a Windows programs portability app for Linux, has been picked up as a cheating application by Blizzard, leading to the closing of many accounts of Linux users.

Discussion has been ongoing in the forum of TransGaming, Cedega's developer. Currently, Transgaming is working with Blizzard's engineers to resolve the problem and hopefully get the unjustly banned accounts back into a state of gaming readiness. Till then, however, all we can do is wait for TransGaming and Blizzard to do something about it.

 
TwilightEdge  11/17/06 3:46:22 PM

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Am I the only one bored  with WoW editorials? >.>

I got bored  of WoW after 2 weeks ~_~ Hiding grind with quests isn't a good idea imo.

Qmire  11/17/06 3:57:04 PM

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Wow was fun while it lasted but when you have done as good as everything possible, with only the end game instances left (cleared most of them along with couple of naxx bosses) you just run into a boring rince and repeat.

I think wow is first hitting the "boring" sign now, as expansion is closing in, which might be overhyped, people expecting things to renew thier love but wow can no longer give what i want, because for a year i was nothing more than a raidslave, seing it as the only progression left, there are no skill point system or hard to hit lvl, which i somehow didn't fond before but now i see the reason.

When you realize that the items you gather might make you think you got stronger it's only marginal, many if not most are stuck in it, with all the addons it's no wonder that 30 bonus overall dps could make you thrill for some time.

Many people play just because thier friends does and in their guilds. I remember when i started wow, it would have nothing to do with some pranky huge guild just me and friends having fun for many months it was like that but then people started venturing into MC, as interesting it all was it was the beginning of the end. Now i'm sorta looking for a mmo that grants progression without having the game controle when you have to play instead of you just playing when you feel like it.

I am all in all looking for a game where you do not achieve max lvl within few weeks but a game with constant progression, a game where it's not the 40-man dungeon or monster that decides "you're progressing for an item" but instead you can go into an instance 8 months after and be there because you still are far from max lvl but there's things to be found there and most importantly of all, you will be there with close friends of 3 or 5. What game can give that sort of feeling? the ability to solo throughout, yet still instancefun with friends for glory, xp, and treasure, with a spice of action and bloody mess?

Age of Conan or 2Moons? Only time will tell but one thing is for sure, WoW seems dead to me and looks like just another heavy guild raiding game, as EQI-II looked like, now.

 

In short: Wow still casual? don't make me laugh, it's just how good they can keep that thought of denial alive, which makes people continue to play. As soon you hit lvl 60 it all changes, 1-59 is the only casual solo play.

Regards- a player, who played wow from open beta and throughout retail till a couple months ago.

navyalc  11/17/06 4:19:05 PM

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The early days of WoW were definately fun for me but as time went on the game slowly began to get on my nerves. I do not like having to get together with 20 - 40 other people just to play boring content for gear you may or may not be able to get. Being a shadow priest w/ only the option to pve for healing gear, or pvp endlessly for pvp gear did not help my situation. WoW went down the wrong path when the game started to be about gear instead of fun. Once you get the gear, then what? Wait for the next patch or expansion for more gear? Instanced pvp and the honor system killed the game even more. The only reason I wanted gear was to do World pvp, not instanced. Sucks for those of us who grinded for the pvp gear and now want to have fun with said gear but you've already played the hell out of all the battlegrounds. I highly doubt the expansion will bring enough to World of Warcraft to get me back into the game. There are many good titles coming soon that wont be based on gear but hopefully rather, skill..

Playing WoW 2 years casually would destroy any normal person.  But if you are satisfied with this kind of game more power to you. You are easy to please. Not only is the combat system way too easy but you'll only be killed by someone who has spent that much longer getting gear(aka a non-casual player, or a shadow priest because they can kill anyone). AND If you aren't getting gear for pvp then what else could it possibly be for? Sitting in town looking at your character? I personally cannot derive any pleasure or satisfaction out of that.

I wish you luck, as a casual player it just must be taking you that much longer to realize you are doing this for nothing. Former Shadow Priest of Gorgonnash,

-Xelroh

 
wilcoxon  11/17/06 5:28:19 PM

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I found WoW enjoyable for a little over a year.  I quit with a 60 Hunter, 40-some Paladin, 40-some Rogue, 40-some Druid, 30-ish Priest, and multiple 20-somes.  I've played other games (mostly EQ) hard-core raiding but was mostly a casual player of WoW.  The content was getting repetitive and boring but I was still enjoying playing with my wife and/or friends.

The final straw for me was the intentional disabling of alot of addons in patch 1.10 (including many that worked unmodified for over a year).  All the addons did was implement things that should have been in the main game (ex. making sure pet will always save enough energy to use growl every 5 seconds) or remove annoyances that were easily achieved manually but shouldn't have been required (ex. feeding pet every time happiness dropped) or just making the game more enjoyable (ex. keeping buffs up on yourself (my Priest had 5 different buffs with 5 different durations ranging from 3 min to 30 min (4 were 15 min or less))).  Did some of the addons give some advantages?  Sure but that's really secondary to providing fun and irrelevant except in PvP (so just disable them in PvP).

At this point, I'm playing EVE and CoH/CoV and waiting to find out more about Vanguard, LotR, and Warhammer.

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Retired: AO, Archlord (beta), Auto Assault (beta), DAoC, DDO (alpha,beta&live), Dungeon Runners (beta), EQ, EVE, GW, LotRO (beta), Vanguard (beta), WoW
Looking forward to: TCoS, Fallen Earth

Mithrandolir  11/17/06 5:32:12 PM

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Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win, by fearing to attempt

I just don't get it.
Through all of my years of gaming... Taple Topping... Mudding... MMORPG'ing... I've always been aware and easily accepted the fact that there are different strokes for different folks, but this i can not wrap my head around.
I tried it. I kept on playing because I thought there must be something I was missing. i played for a couple months. I just never "got it".

I didn't even enjoy the early levels. I just kept going hoping that "6 million" people were right and I would eventually "get it".

There are games out right now that i find to be a ton of fun, so i know it's not just me getting old and cranky ;)

This one blew right over my head, I guess ;)
That's fine with me. I now understand that by not playing this, I am missing nothing.








 
Oronwe  11/17/06 7:36:29 PM

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give a man fire n he´s warm for a day, set him on fire, he´ll be warm for the rest of his life

heya..

though i dont get the true meaning of another editorial, another "praise wow"-thingy. I mean...it was fun, it was tempting and my rl-buddies had fun with it too. But i honestly have to say that, if a so called casual player is looking forward in playing wow on and on and on...., then i´m kinda worried about the future of mmo´s. because of the faxt that for those who want more than the let´s say casual content, they just get off board and i think that the community will suffer for lshort or long from those kind of mmo´s. Ok they might be the best choice for Casuals, but what about those who want to get really in to a game instead of fishing 6 motnhs or goin to raid over and over again.

WoW is just leading the path to a future in mmo´s i really don´t want to see.

with best regards...Oronwe