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  Dana

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OP  11/16/06 3:29:03 PM#1

In part two of three, we look at walking on stations in EVE, graphic upgrades, Linux and other support and a range of other news and announcements. Check back soon for Part 3 on Revelations II and III and much more.

Procedural animation is probably a dirty word among the animators of the world. Typical video games are created by hiring an army of artists to pre-render each individual movement of the character. They are then called up to perform them as appropriate. In recent years, games have added animation blending to make characters more life-like. An example of this is the ability for a character to turn his head to look at something as he runs along. Procedural animation throws all that out and mathematically has an avatar respond within their physical limitations to outside stimulus. The result is more dynamic, lifelike and promotes less art-intensive development. Will Wright's eagerly anticipated existence-simulation Spore promises to use this kind of technology to animate the creatures that players create.

The whole article is here.

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  User Deleted
11/16/06 4:05:39 PM#2
Screen Shots and Images Please!
  Dana

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OP  11/16/06 4:19:47 PM#3
We never did get a press kit (or at least I didn't) for screenshots.

...and there has been a horrible sequence events that leads to all my photos being locked in the camera.

Oddly, EVE is just about the worst company for having screenshots online, so for now, we're stuck with the same 10 images in each article

Dana Massey
Formerly of MMORPG.com
Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios

  damian7

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Joined: 4/20/06
Posts: 4514

why must i be nice to people that have no clue, are lying, or are just stupid?

11/16/06 4:21:58 PM#4
"To date, the game has been dominated by intense alliance warfare. In China, there are super-guilds that transcend all online games. A few have taken up a foothold in EVE and the result has been intense PvP that has even gone so far as guild leaders paying people (with real money) to fight for them, quite the twist on the secondary market."



ooo i want a guild leader that'll pay me, so i can just fly around and kill things and be like, 'sorry honey, have to go to work', flip on the computer and get to killing!

could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  Galias

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Joined: 3/25/05
Posts: 68

The world is changing...

11/16/06 4:25:19 PM#5

Whoa...avatars in EVE??  This is the only thing that's stopped me from continuing to play this game.  I just need more than just a headshot and a ship that looks like two dozen others out there.

-G

  fenrisblue

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Joined: 9/20/04
Posts: 115

11/16/06 5:17:04 PM#6

OMG if they get avatars i think this may be the game i play FOREVER, i love what eve online has done with there flying portion of the game,...so i know as soon as avatars become reality its all uphill,we can expect some amazing things to hapen ,when we can walk around the stations,next will be planets,..then misions on planets..,.smaller land vehicle ,cities,itll be an amazing game and will dominate sci fi mmo at that point,..and i am sure it probably already does ,but it will make others who dont like flying around in a spaceship come and play too, like me,

 also i would like to coment on the pvp in asia , someone said , a few replies back that they would love to be payed by there guild leader to go kill pvp for them,..well taht wont hapen in non asian marckets,..those guys over there are too serious about there games and just take it too far,..i know if the people in america where put on the asian servers(with exceptions of course) they would be anialated, you just dont see super guilds in america lol just not wirth our time, i play to have fun, with a side order of pvp,..not vice versa ;) talk to you guys soon i am sure :P

  User Deleted
11/16/06 6:00:43 PM#7

Originally posted by Lepidus
We never did get a press kit (or at least I didn't) for screenshots.

...and there has been a horrible sequence events that leads to all my photos being locked in the camera.

Oddly, EVE is just about the worst company for having screenshots online, so for now, we're stuck with the same 10 images in each article


Well that sucks...
  Mirokata

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Joined: 9/14/05
Posts: 114

11/16/06 8:42:13 PM#8
There's definitely going to be some murders from corp betraying in Asia.
  Kurir

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Joined: 12/21/03
Posts: 251

Bring back Earth and Beyond.

11/16/06 8:58:11 PM#9

I regretfully like Eve, though I don't really play it anymore, the game has become to rife with ganking/griefing/scammers/liars/asshats etc... choose your own description. I love the ideas presented and the viable avatar has been something the community has been asking for quite a while. I don't agree with the segment that wants to use them for FPS action.

The one thing that would bring me back full time, would be to create a separate server to allow those of us that just want to enjoy the game without the afore mentioned baboons. If PvP is your thing then have at it but don't expect everyone else to share your view. I will eventually allow my "subscriptions" to lapse since the game lost the fun factor long ago and I am merely hanging on for old time sake.

  LordSlater

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Joined: 5/15/06
Posts: 2059

Some people say im a virus. But i say they are the Virus, I am the cure.

11/16/06 10:42:06 PM#10

Originally posted by Kurir

I regretfully like Eve, though I don't really play it anymore, the game has become to rife with ganking/griefing/scammers/liars/asshats etc... choose your own description. I love the ideas presented and the viable avatar has been something the community has been asking for quite a while. I don't agree with the segment that wants to use them for FPS action.

The one thing that would bring me back full time, would be to create a separate server to allow those of us that just want to enjoy the game without the afore mentioned baboons. If PvP is your thing then have at it but don't expect everyone else to share your view. I will eventually allow my "subscriptions" to lapse since the game lost the fun factor long ago and I am merely hanging on for old time sake.



Guess what EvE is a PvP game be it in combat or PvP in the markets.

  Guler

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Joined: 3/14/05
Posts: 148

11/16/06 10:46:39 PM#11

I have to agree with the above poster that Eve is PVP based like it or not. PvP serves as a reasource drain on the economy to keep it in balance, and the economy is something very vital to the game.

If there is one critism I have to the game is that there is no way for new players to catch up with Vets. Also the learning skills are a pain, why should a new player need to spend their first 6 months of the game optimizing their next few years of playing.

  nightrose

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Joined: 4/25/04
Posts: 10

11/16/06 10:53:53 PM#12
An actively developed Linux client will definately lead me to take another look at this game.
  MrPopov

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Posts: 217

11/16/06 10:54:50 PM#13

Oddly, EVE is just about the worst company for having screenshots online, so for now, we're stuck with the same 10 images in each article

Aye, but the fans pick up where they left off:

Official Fanfest Video and Pictures resource Thread


EDIT:  I just realized you wanted screenshots of new game content, not pictures of the fanfest itself.  Oh well, leaving it up there anyway.
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  Dana

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Joined: 1/07/04
Posts: 2425

 
OP  11/16/06 10:59:28 PM#14

Originally posted by MrPopov

Oddly, EVE is just about the worst company for having screenshots online, so for now, we're stuck with the same 10 images in each article

Aye, but the fans pick up where they left off:

Official Fanfest Video and Pictures resource Thread


EDIT:  I just realized you wanted screenshots of new game content, not pictures of the fanfest itself.  Oh well, leaving it up there anyway.

Actually, either would do, the annoying part is I have the photos. Hopefully I can get technically sorted out before I write part three ;)

Dana Massey
Formerly of MMORPG.com
Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios

  Beatnik59

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11/16/06 11:45:47 PM#15

Originally posted by LordSlater

Originally posted by Kurir

I regretfully like Eve, though I don't really play it anymore, the game has become to rife with ganking/griefing/scammers/liars/asshats etc... choose your own description. I love the ideas presented and the viable avatar has been something the community has been asking for quite a while. I don't agree with the segment that wants to use them for FPS action.

The one thing that would bring me back full time, would be to create a separate server to allow those of us that just want to enjoy the game without the afore mentioned baboons. If PvP is your thing then have at it but don't expect everyone else to share your view. I will eventually allow my "subscriptions" to lapse since the game lost the fun factor long ago and I am merely hanging on for old time sake.



Guess what EvE is a PvP game be it in combat or PvP in the markets.

I really don't know what a PvP game is anymore.  The line between what is and is not PvP has been blurred into incoherence over the years, especially in CCP's mind.  To say that I can go for entire months on end without encountering anything that resembles a human being, and saying its PvP, is a bit absurd unless you take a very broad view of what PvP may be.

However, I do know what a ganking, griefing, scamming, lying, and asshattery game is.  If that is what a PvP game is, or needs to include, then EVE shouldn't be a PvP game.  In fact, I'd say that if a PvP game includes ganking, griefing, scamming, lying, and asshattery, then EVE is, in fact, not a PvP game, simply because there are a lot of good qualities still in it (but maybe not for long) to warrant consideration.

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"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.

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  Holyavenger1

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11/17/06 12:00:19 AM#16
Cool, that's extensive coverage, just the way I like them :)

Now about:

"To date, the game has been dominated by intense alliance warfare. In China, there are super-guilds that transcend all online games. A few have taken up a foothold in EVE and the result has been intense PvP that has even gone so far as guild leaders paying people (with real money) to fight for them, quite the twist on the secondary market."

Two words: Fuck & LOL.

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  WoodenDummy

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11/17/06 5:37:09 AM#17


I really don't know what a PvP game is anymore. The line between what is and is not PvP has been blurred into incoherence over the years, especially in CCP's mind. To say that I can go for entire months on end without encountering anything that resembles a human being, and saying its PvP, is a bit absurd unless you take a very broad view of what PvP may be.

However, I do know what a ganking, griefing, scamming, lying, and asshattery game is. If that is what a PvP game is, or needs to include, then EVE shouldn't be a PvP game. In fact, I'd say that if a PvP game includes ganking, griefing, scamming, lying, and asshattery, then EVE is, in fact, not a PvP game, simply because there are a lot of good qualities still in it (but maybe not for long) to warrant consideration.


That's a great post.

  Dana

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OP  11/17/06 9:21:37 AM#18

Originally posted by Lepidus

Originally posted by MrPopov

Oddly, EVE is just about the worst company for having screenshots online, so for now, we're stuck with the same 10 images in each article

Aye, but the fans pick up where they left off:

Official Fanfest Video and Pictures resource Thread


EDIT:  I just realized you wanted screenshots of new game content, not pictures of the fanfest itself.  Oh well, leaving it up there anyway.

Actually, either would do, the annoying part is I have the photos. Hopefully I can get technically sorted out before I write part three ;)

As it turns out, it is me who is at fault for the images. My apologies, but they did in fact provide a press kit. I am so used to a CD everytime I go somewhere that I entirely forgot about the letter with the information for their online kit. It is found now, so the final article will be full of new Revelations and other screenshots/art.

Dana Massey
Formerly of MMORPG.com
Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios

  User Deleted
11/17/06 9:30:02 AM#19

Originally posted by Lepidus
We never did get a press kit (or at least I didn't) for screenshots.

...and there has been a horrible sequence events that leads to all my photos being locked in the camera.

Oddly, EVE is just about the worst company for having screenshots online, so for now, we're stuck with the same 10 images in each article


 Screens and Concept art : Press Kit screens and art @ EVE Vault

Excellent article, Dana! It's some of the most detailed coverage of that day that I have seen so far. Looking forward to the next installments!
  Minsc

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11/17/06 10:08:04 AM#20

Originally posted by Beatnik59

Originally posted by LordSlater

Originally posted by Kurir

I regretfully like Eve, though I don't really play it anymore, the game has become to rife with ganking/griefing/scammers/liars/asshats etc... choose your own description. I love the ideas presented and the viable avatar has been something the community has been asking for quite a while. I don't agree with the segment that wants to use them for FPS action.

The one thing that would bring me back full time, would be to create a separate server to allow those of us that just want to enjoy the game without the afore mentioned baboons. If PvP is your thing then have at it but don't expect everyone else to share your view. I will eventually allow my "subscriptions" to lapse since the game lost the fun factor long ago and I am merely hanging on for old time sake.



Guess what EvE is a PvP game be it in combat or PvP in the markets.

I really don't know what a PvP game is anymore.  The line between what is and is not PvP has been blurred into incoherence over the years, especially in CCP's mind.  To say that I can go for entire months on end without encountering anything that resembles a human being, and saying its PvP, is a bit absurd unless you take a very broad view of what PvP may be.

However, I do know what a ganking, griefing, scamming, lying, and asshattery game is.  If that is what a PvP game is, or needs to include, then EVE shouldn't be a PvP game.  In fact, I'd say that if a PvP game includes ganking, griefing, scamming, lying, and asshattery, then EVE is, in fact, not a PvP game, simply because there are a lot of good qualities still in it (but maybe not for long) to warrant consideration.


A PVP game is any game where your actions can directly effect other players, whether good or bad. So dominating a market region is PVP, competing for mining resources is PVP, hiring a merc corp to disrupt a rival corps operations is PVP or blowing up passing ships for their cargo is PVP.

Ganking should be reduced with the HP increase coming out. Griefing is used far too much as an excuse for people just being lazy. Scamming an lying there is nothing wrong with as it's easily avoided if you just spend the minute amount of energy required to pay attention. Asshattery happens in all MMO's, difference with EVE is if someone is being an asshat, you have the option to blow the living crap out of them.
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