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Originally posted by TheSlider
Come on... Are you sure you're not an alter ego of Torres, Smed, or someone else from $OE?
The ONLY reason this forum was split is because SWG:Complete is going to be released soon, and since this site will probably carry quite a few ads for it, you wanted to call as little attention as possible to these forums and us disgruntled vets so $OE can sell more boxes and introduce more people to their broken game.
I saw MMORPG did an interview with those thieves at $OE about a month ago. I think you asked every softball question you could think of. Why didn't you ask them about classic servers and why their "talented developers" can't code it? 
 Why didn't you ask them about  the "bait and switch" tactic they used with ToOW and if they have recovered from that black eye yet? 
As a self employed IT consultant, I can say with great joy that since 11/16/05 I have kept ~2 million+ dollars out of the hands of Sony Corporation by way of telling every purchasing director I come into contact with to avoid buying anything Sony like the plague. They do so, and they're much happier for doing it. I can only imagine how many other like myself have done the same thing..
It looks like I'll have to do the same for this site. I've already removed the bookmark for MMORPG.com from my favorites and this will quite possibly be my last post. Way to go breaking up your community!
True to $OE form... Kudos!!

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And you came up with all this because of all the advertising SOE has done here before?

This place has put out some articles that have flat out put SOE and LEC to the wall for what they have done to SWG. Yet you in your infinite wisdom and a few days here have cooked up this scheme? You have no grounds for your point and there has been no presidence set to qualify it.

Your spin seems to be what is true to SOE form.

I too feel the pain of having my favorite game stolen from me.  The Combat Upgrade changes made it the game I loved to hate... but I still loved my Star Wars setting and my fellow Star Wars gamers.  But the NGE changes... I tried to make it work for a few weeks.  But with my favorite profession removed, I could not adjust.

My favorite profession was Creature Handler now removed from the game entirely. I had 2 accounts and between those two toons I had mastered 14 professions and had earned the right to unlock Jedi with one.  But I never really was interested in Jedi enough to make it my main character.   

My former guild now is splintered, shattered, shell-shocked and floating between a half a dozen other games trying to find a 'fit'.  We have tried CoH/V, EQ2, WoW... and a few others.  So far no game fills the void that a Star Wars fan like I had with SWG.  It is now just a glorified chat room with a first person shooteresq feel outside the cities.

Of the other games I tried I have truely gotten a kick out of CoH.  But it gets on ones nerves after a few short months, plus no player crafting hurts.  EQ2 had a most beautiful look.  WoW has the same clean cartooney feel of CoH but everyone looks the same at the higher levels and its... well.. kind of mindless to me.

But I will whine... cry and pout to no avail.  I no longer have the time to game that I had in the past.  And I for sure no longer  have the patience to develop 2 characters for 2 and a half years only to have them yanked into a system designed to appeal to the pre-teen crowd.  

I will say what I will about the demise of SWG.  This is just my point of view and my opinion.  My guild and I tried to make the game work for us, thru all changes SOE thought needed to balance the game for vets and new players.  My guild, my friends, my worthy opponents and I worked around things that simple game mechanics made imposssible (i.e. no criminal/underworld faction).  Threw in a little RP to smooth over quirks, development loose ends, story line deviation and the inevitable unbalances.  But the NGE was something none of us could work around.  And apparently many many other fellow gamers could not work around.

But I will try other games.  To end my comments I would like to say this... to a true Star Wars fan like myself... Star Trek is blasphmey... but I really find myself drawn to the idea of Star Trek Online... damn you SOE.   Maybe the life in Star Trek Online will help put a band-aid on my open wound SOE gave me.  I know I would like it if Blizzard ever did World of Starcraft.  I have to remind myself that its just a game.  No one died... it was just a game.

DUCT

I just had to get the duct tape off the screen.   Darn stuff had been stuck there for nearly a month...

Sorry Mr. Tape.

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Originally posted by Hellee
Huh? Don't understand this thread but SWG was a game I once loved. All good things must come to an end I suppose, but the changes came much too soon and were too drastic.

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This forum needs to be removed.

All it is is people bashing SWG developers for reasons unknown. In NO way is this helping new players find the source of the anger from the NGE. I have seen NO posts regarding reasons why people have quit the NGE besides "$oe is a worthless piece of crap and the NGE is horrible". What? Huh? Oh, sorry, I was too busy looking for the point. The people here cannot move on and all this forum is doing is encouraging them to spread their worthless and horribly misinterpreted information.

It deserves to be removed.

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Originally posted by Cemoa

This forum needs to be removed.

All it is is people bashing SWG developers for reasons unknown. In NO way is this helping new players find the source of the anger from the NGE. I have seen NO posts regarding reasons why people have quit the NGE besides "$oe is a worthless piece of crap and the NGE is horrible". What? Huh? Oh, sorry, I was too busy looking for the point. The people here cannot move on and all this forum is doing is encouraging them to spread their worthless and horribly misinterpreted information.

It deserves to be removed.

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Originally posted by Stradden

Greetings one and all!

I wanted to write a quick note to explain, first, that the original wording for this forum might have been misleading. I have ammended it to be more inclusive of new and perspective players who are curious as to why so many people are angered over this particular game.

The reasoning behind the creation of our two new SWG forums was never to stifle anyone's opinions, but rather to give everyone a fair chance to express their views on this game. I realize that there are very strong feelings surrounding the sweeping changes that were made to this game, and we want to provide a place where people can discuss this issue. It has always been my intention to have this place be used as well by newcomers who are curious about gaining perspective on the events of this game's past, including the NGE and CU. I appologise if the original wording of the description for this forum was misleading, and hope that by adding to the description, I have cleared this up.

I hope that by providing these two seperate forums, these two distinct aspects and points of view on this game can both be heard so that everyone who has a voice, can be heard.

Jon Wood

*edit: I also wanted to clear up some confusion about the actual NAME of this forum.

From Dictionary.com, the word Refuge means:

1.	shelter or protection from danger, trouble, etc.: to take refuge from a storm.

2.	a place of shelter, protection, or safety.

3.	anything to which one has recourse for aid, relief, or escape.

I chose that name due to the controversey that is caused around people posting opinions about the changes. I thought that it was an appropriate for a forum dedicated to this particular subject.

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Originally posted by Cemoa

This forum needs to be removed.

All it is is people bashing SWG developers for reasons unknown. In NO way is this helping new players find the source of the anger from the NGE. I have seen NO posts regarding reasons why people have quit the NGE besides "$oe is a worthless piece of crap and the NGE is horrible". What? Huh? Oh, sorry, I was too busy looking for the point. The people here cannot move on and all this forum is doing is encouraging them to spread their worthless and horribly misinterpreted information.

It deserves to be removed.

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This one has to be a joke or someone that has not been around the game for the last year... one or the other.

If your asking for a list of why the NGE is a failure and why the game is now in the dump then you need to open your eyes and look around.

Go to the SOE boards and just read them....

If you think this is a polished game that has treated its loyal playerbase well then you need to send a email to Mr. Smedley himself and ask him what happend, because your either the worst fanboi without any information or just some kid trying to piss people off.

Somthing is not right with this one... people under rocks know about this mess man.

Originally posted by iskareot

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Originally posted by Cemoa

This forum needs to be removed.

All it is is people bashing SWG developers for reasons unknown. In NO way is this helping new players find the source of the anger from the NGE. I have seen NO posts regarding reasons why people have quit the NGE besides "$oe is a worthless piece of crap and the NGE is horrible". What? Huh? Oh, sorry, I was too busy looking for the point. The people here cannot move on and all this forum is doing is encouraging them to spread their worthless and horribly misinterpreted information.

It deserves to be removed.

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This one has to be a joke or someone that has not been around the game for the last year... one or the other.

If your asking for a list of why the NGE is a failure and why the game is now in the dump then you need to open your eyes and look around.

Go to the SOE boards and just read them....

If you think this is a polished game that has treated its loyal playerbase well then you need to send a email to Mr. Smedley himself and ask him what happend, because your either the worst fanboi without any information or just some kid trying to piss people off.

Somthing is not right with this one... people under rocks know about this mess man.

Originally posted by Jester92
2 words and a sentance    NGE SUCKS   NGE Ended this game for me i dont even really want to talk about how badly they just lost about half of their vets :/

Originally posted by hargrave

More like prison is the better term lets shove all the free speechers and NGE haters who tell it like is into there own forum and give obraik and pirrg there own forum to spread propaganda which is where 99% of the flaming came from is those 2. Theres 9 bleeping forums already 9 and they werent used either for what they were now these are supose to magically work lol wtf?

Sorry for coming into this late without reading the entire thread.

I saw the image of a FOX news reporter in HARGRAVE's post and had to ask:

Is that headline for real? 

Is SOE out?  Bioware is taking over SWG???

No, it's a Photoshopped wish.

Ah...okay.  Thanks.  

Just wanted to say that a refuge is also a place for people who're without home... and seeing as SWG is gone, people do need a refuge to go to :) - that or sleep outside in the rain :P

I found my refuge another place, though, so never really went looking for one here.

Personally, I think it's a good idea for people who're tired of SOE's antics and angry about the NGE to have a place of their own.

Originally posted by Bree'ah

Just wanted to say that a refuge is also a place for people who're without home... and seeing as SWG is gone, people do need a refuge to go to :) - that or sleep outside in the rain :P

I found my refuge another place, though, so never really went looking for one here.

Personally, I think it's a good idea for people who're tired of SOE's antics and angry about the NGE to have a place of their own.

Get a life, people.

But... those are boring...

Where's the fun in that?

Originally posted by Bree'ah

But... those are boring...

Where's the fun in that?

 

hmm i recognice this name......did you play on the euro-chimera server? Or maybe im just wrong.