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  Wyeth

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Posts: 51

9/01/06 7:49:27 AM#121

I hope the Pre-CU rumors are true because it looks like the EMU is in trouble

http://swgemu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5065

http://swgemu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5070

Update - now they are looking for feedback on making it a closed source project again

http://swgemu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5068

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  Shanks123

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9/01/06 8:27:32 AM#122
i <3 the word source so mysterious. Are you actully trying to cover a real persons ass or just your own? We never know till we know lolz

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  BigDogofBria

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Chicken-wuss...

9/01/06 8:50:04 AM#123

 I firmly believe we will never see a pre cu swg again outside the emu. I wouldn't want to grind out 30+ professions again anyhow. And since we're talking rollbackSadly, some doors that close are never opened again.

 A KOTOR mmo sounds exciting. I nevered played the KOTOR games myself but I've heard good things about them. However if soe has anything to do with it, which they most certainly will, we cant play it. I for one am exhausted from the 'carrot on a stick' mentality that prevailed during the first two years of swg. Also, soe is not soley responsible for the destruction of swg. LucasArts after all controls the liscense and could have taken it out of sony's hand when the contract was renewed. They chose not to. Having worked with ILM I can tell you that George Lucas is involved with all aspects of his franchise. When soldiers lack discipline the fault lies with there commander.

 Someday, im sure this will all be worked out as there is an absolute ocean of cash to be made. Q2 08 seems rather optomistic to me. For now however the continuing drama of star wars online will stay in the failure category of the long history of great successes and utter failures concerning Lucas IPs and the video games generated by them. 

  Rekrul

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9/01/06 8:50:18 AM#124

Originally posted by Wyeth

I hope the Pre-CU rumors are true because it looks like the EMU is in trouble

http://swgemu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5065

http://swgemu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5070



How many hackers out there do you think will deal with what has been going on around that project in the past? Why join a project with track record like that?

I said this long time ago, but was laughed out. Open Source does not mean that suddenly everyone will jump over it. In the end, it's became two people, possibly one, that still work on the project. A select few project actually do manage to attract more regular developers, but those are usually commercially backed.

Open Source projects like this are single person's work. Not one person only, but one person that makes things move.
  MX13

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What in HELL is an Aluminum Falcon?!?!?!

 
9/01/06 8:57:03 AM#125

Originally posted by Shanks123
i <3 the word source so mysterious. Are you actully trying to cover a real persons ass or just your own? We never know till we know lolz

True, oh so true. I hope it true, because I doubt most of you would forget if it's not.

That said, when it comes down to an '07 date: Just beause that's the goal, doesn't mean it's going to heppen. If this were KotOR 3, sure, it's a SP game, but for a MMO it aggresive.... but we'll see...

I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

In fact, forget the SWG!!!!



  kiltak

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9/01/06 9:21:16 AM#126

Well if you ask me, I personally think they should make a Star Wars MMO that is like Planetside. Drop all this tier crap and classes. I just want to jump in X win and beat the crap out of some tie fighters, or get on a planet buckle up my boots grab my blaster and go kill me some stormtroopers.

Imagin being able to be in battles like Hoth or the Battle over Endor, maybe not those exact battles but being in high pitched battles were your heart is racing cause you got enemy pilots on your tale, or that big AT walker is coming right at you and have to find a place to lay low so you dont die. The rush of the fast paced combat.

SWG was boring to all hell, I found staring at the wall more exciting then SWG. Sorry I just don't see the point in making another SW mmo in that way.

  MX13

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What in HELL is an Aluminum Falcon?!?!?!

 
9/01/06 10:09:42 AM#127

Originally posted by kiltak

Well if you ask me, I personally think they should make a Star Wars MMO that is like Planetside. Drop all this tier crap and classes. I just want to jump in X win and beat the crap out of some tie fighters, or get on a planet buckle up my boots grab my blaster and go kill me some stormtroopers.

Imagin being able to be in battles like Hoth or the Battle over Endor, maybe not those exact battles but being in high pitched battles were your heart is racing cause you got enemy pilots on your tale, or that big AT walker is coming right at you and have to find a place to lay low so you dont die. The rush of the fast paced combat.

SWG was boring to all hell, I found staring at the wall more exciting then SWG. Sorry I just don't see the point in making another SW mmo in that way.


To you it's boring, so go by Battlefront2 and you can do all of those things. We're MMORPG fans, if you're not, then why post in this thread? You have your game, now we want one...

I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

In fact, forget the SWG!!!!



  Bob_Blawblaw

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9/01/06 10:34:52 AM#128

Originally posted by MX13

Originally posted by kiltak

Well if you ask me, I personally think they should make a Star Wars MMO that is like Planetside. Drop all this tier crap and classes. I just want to jump in X win and beat the crap out of some tie fighters, or get on a planet buckle up my boots grab my blaster and go kill me some stormtroopers.

Imagin being able to be in battles like Hoth or the Battle over Endor, maybe not those exact battles but being in high pitched battles were your heart is racing cause you got enemy pilots on your tale, or that big AT walker is coming right at you and have to find a place to lay low so you dont die. The rush of the fast paced combat.

SWG was boring to all hell, I found staring at the wall more exciting then SWG. Sorry I just don't see the point in making another SW mmo in that way.


To you it's boring, so go by Battlefront2 and you can do all of those things. We're MMORPG fans, if you're not, then why post in this thread? You have your game, now we want one...


No flipping doubt MX13! Why in Gods name would anyone complain that SWG (pre-cu) was boring when they were infact playing the wrong game altogether? Perhaps LAs marketing department is once again to blame (I blame marketing for most of the worlds ills).
Kiltak, learn to use the internet for something other than nazi-amputee-midget porn and do some research before buying a game.
  Drashan

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9/01/06 10:51:36 AM#129

Ok I'd just like to say that the reason I found the two KoTOR games so compelling was because of their deep story, which centralised around you.

This would not be workable in an MMO.

The combat was nothing special, and in fact in an MMO it would be dull and get tiresome fast. There are some systems which may work, if done well i.e. the Feats system, but a KoTOR MMO will have to go far away from its original format to make a fun, popular MMO.

  tillamook

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9/01/06 11:03:40 AM#130

Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

Originally posted by MX13

Originally posted by kiltak

Well if you ask me, I personally think they should make a Star Wars MMO that is like Planetside. Drop all this tier crap and classes. I just want to jump in X win and beat the crap out of some tie fighters, or get on a planet buckle up my boots grab my blaster and go kill me some stormtroopers.

Imagin being able to be in battles like Hoth or the Battle over Endor, maybe not those exact battles but being in high pitched battles were your heart is racing cause you got enemy pilots on your tale, or that big AT walker is coming right at you and have to find a place to lay low so you dont die. The rush of the fast paced combat.

SWG was boring to all hell, I found staring at the wall more exciting then SWG. Sorry I just don't see the point in making another SW mmo in that way.


To you it's boring, so go by Battlefront2 and you can do all of those things. We're MMORPG fans, if you're not, then why post in this thread? You have your game, now we want one...


No flipping doubt MX13! Why in Gods name would anyone complain that SWG (pre-cu) was boring when they were infact playing the wrong game altogether? Perhaps LAs marketing department is once again to blame (I blame marketing for most of the worlds ills).
Kiltak, learn to use the internet for something other than nazi-amputee-midget porn and do some research before buying a game.

MMORPG games did not apeal to mainstream players till WoW. I wasn't in to them till SWG myself (SWG for me made it seem cool). I blame WoW. Other companies saw that success and said "Hey! we can make a game that anyone can enjoy" But SOE failed to realise that the remaining SWG players (the ones who did not leave at launch) where mostly made up hardcore MMO players who liked hardcore rules sets and did not want arcade in an MMO. We knew that there were other games out there that played like arcade games if we needed that fix. Why they felt the need to break away from traditional RPG rules who knows, but I hope the next one follows it again.


SWG pre-cu vet, elder Jedi, elder BH -Bloodfin

  haxxjoo

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You have destroyed your forums with stupid censorship and I no longer view your opinions as unbiast.

9/01/06 12:08:49 PM#131

Originally posted by pirrg
wait, i thought pre-cu swg was coming with SWG:Complete? 

You guys crack me up, you really need to move on. Pre-cu is dead and will never return. Do you really think a company like Bioware is going to come anywhere near the ugly, broken and old pre-cu swg?

Whatever mmo bioware creates will be great im sure, but im equally sure they wont create a star wars mmo. They have a ton of IP of their own to work with, why the hell would they make a star wars mmo? There isnt even a market for a star wars mmo. The only star wars mmo in history only peaked at 300k subscribers. It doesnt make sense guys.

A ton of ip of their own? L33t doood! 300k * 14.95 a month = 4.485 million dollars us a month or roughly 53 million dollars a year.  You are an idiot if you dont think someone doesnt see that as a very lucrative revenue source. 

Pirrg it is you who suffers delusions.  SWG:NGE is dead.  We are only trying to save it.  You are just leeching yourselve onto a dead corpse.  Its only a matter of time till they either A) change the game again b) kill it. c) bring back pre-cu  It is the only options they have.  They stated that pre-cu wasn't lucrative for them.  They then stated the cu wasn't.  The nge having assumed to have less subscribers then that means its due to undergo change again.  You are the one that needs to move on.  Hopefully to oh I dont know EQ II.  Just stay away from Guild Wars.  I dont want you ruining my fun game I have been playing since I left.  Oh I moved on brother... Long time ago.  I still want pre-cu.

  batmanx92

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9/01/06 12:47:11 PM#132

Originally posted by Concord7

Originally posted by Spathotan

Originally posted by Gameloading
End 2007 is way to soon.when did Bioware announced its mmo? one year ago?

it really needs more development time.

Bioware hasnt said anything. The whole thing is just another bullshit rumor. And until Bioware does say something, it will remain just another bullshit rumor.

BioWare Corp. Announces New "BioWare Austin" Studio

New Studio Recruiting for Massively Multiplayer Online RPG Project

EDMONTON, Alberta, Canada, March 13, 2006

Canadian videogame developer BioWare Corp. has announced the opening of a new studio, BioWare Austin, based in Austin, Texas. It is the second of BioWare's studios and the first to be located outside of Canada.

BioWare Austin has already begun work on a Massively Multiplayer Online roleplaying game (MMORPG) title; the new game will mark BioWare's debut in the Massively Multiplayer Online space. BioWare has recruited some of the top talent in MMO and RPG development, both to manage the development efforts at BioWare Austin and to collaborate with the experienced team at BioWare Edmonton, to develop a game that combines the best of BioWare's great past games with a compelling persistent online experience. Joining the Austin team as lead designer is James Ohlen, BioWare's Creative Director, whose previous credits include lead or co-lead design roles on Star Wars®: Knights of the Old Republic™, Neverwinter Nights™, Baldur's Gate™ and Baldur's Gate II™. Also leading the BWA team are MMO veterans Richard Vogel and Gordon Walton. Richard Vogel brings 15 years of experience to BioWare Austin, previously serving as VP of Product Development for Sony Online Entertainment's Austin studio, as well as launching Ultima Online™ as a senior producer at Origin. Gordon Walton recently served as VP, studio manager and executive producer at Sony Online Entertainment as well as VP and Executive Producer at Electronic Arts.

...

http://www.bioware.com/bioware_info/press_releases/2006_03_15_Austin/



since no one has looked at this and said anything im going to. Bioware is making a MMORPG and they got a guy whos involved with KOTOR, NWN, BG and BG2. Then u got another guy who is VP of Product Development of SOE and another guy who was VP, studio manager and executive producer at SOE and EA! To me, they got some good guys. But what gets my attention is that those 3 guys had something to do with SW i bet. Well, of course the guy who was involved in KOTOR was involved with SW, but wat about the other 2 guys. They worked for SOE, and lets see, SWG was made by LucasArts and SOE! So if those 2 had sumthing to do with SWG, then this may be the SW MMORPG we've been waiting for. You never know. But also on the Bio-Ware site, under games, under the in development part, there is the MMORPG game which we dont know much about except wat concord posted. But underneath it says Next-Gen Game. Could this be KOTOR3????? We're just gonna have to wait.
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  tillamook

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9/01/06 1:02:14 PM#133

Originally posted by haxxjoo

Originally posted by pirrg
wait, i thought pre-cu swg was coming with SWG:Complete? 

You guys crack me up, you really need to move on. Pre-cu is dead and will never return. Do you really think a company like Bioware is going to come anywhere near the ugly, broken and old pre-cu swg?

Whatever mmo bioware creates will be great im sure, but im equally sure they wont create a star wars mmo. They have a ton of IP of their own to work with, why the hell would they make a star wars mmo? There isnt even a market for a star wars mmo. The only star wars mmo in history only peaked at 300k subscribers. It doesnt make sense guys.

A ton of ip of their own? L33t doood! 300k * 14.95 a month = 4.485 million dollars us a month or roughly 53 million dollars a year.  You are an idiot if you dont think someone doesnt see that as a very lucrative revenue source. 

Pirrg it is you who suffers delusions.  SWG:NGE is dead.  We are only trying to save it.  You are just leeching yourselve onto a dead corpse.  Its only a matter of time till they either A) change the game again b) kill it. c) bring back pre-cu  It is the only options they have.  They stated that pre-cu wasn't lucrative for them.  They then stated the cu wasn't.  The nge having assumed to have less subscribers then that means its due to undergo change again.  You are the one that needs to move on.  Hopefully to oh I dont know EQ II.  Just stay away from Guild Wars.  I dont want you ruining my fun game I have been playing since I left.  Oh I moved on brother... Long time ago.  I still want pre-cu.



True! Even my old guild on Bloodfin who say they are having a blast say the server is pretty dead compared to the old days. They keep pleading for people to come back and the ones who do leave after they figure out the reason they left. Bloodfin and Bria have always been bust servers, but since there is little left in the game to do people come and go more often. The ones who remain are either new people or diehard PvPers. Why do you think they added all the PvP content so fast after all the years of none? To make the people who are actually left happy.

 I think all pirrg does is troll and try to piss people off by making the comments he does. He's European and they like to start arguments by flame bating (winding you up) then sit back and laugh about it. It's best just not to feed in to him. If you notice once he starts an argument in a thread he runs out of it and goes someplace else to start a flame war, but he rarely backs up his little snide remarks with any further discussions on his opinion.


SWG pre-cu vet, elder Jedi, elder BH -Bloodfin

  tillamook

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9/01/06 1:06:53 PM#134

Originally posted by batmanx92

Originally posted by Concord7

Originally posted by Spathotan

Originally posted by Gameloading
End 2007 is way to soon.when did Bioware announced its mmo? one year ago?

it really needs more development time.

Bioware hasnt said anything. The whole thing is just another bullshit rumor. And until Bioware does say something, it will remain just another bullshit rumor.

BioWare Corp. Announces New "BioWare Austin" Studio

New Studio Recruiting for Massively Multiplayer Online RPG Project

EDMONTON, Alberta, Canada, March 13, 2006

Canadian videogame developer BioWare Corp. has announced the opening of a new studio, BioWare Austin, based in Austin, Texas. It is the second of BioWare's studios and the first to be located outside of Canada.

BioWare Austin has already begun work on a Massively Multiplayer Online roleplaying game (MMORPG) title; the new game will mark BioWare's debut in the Massively Multiplayer Online space. BioWare has recruited some of the top talent in MMO and RPG development, both to manage the development efforts at BioWare Austin and to collaborate with the experienced team at BioWare Edmonton, to develop a game that combines the best of BioWare's great past games with a compelling persistent online experience. Joining the Austin team as lead designer is James Ohlen, BioWare's Creative Director, whose previous credits include lead or co-lead design roles on Star Wars®: Knights of the Old Republic™, Neverwinter Nights™, Baldur's Gate™ and Baldur's Gate II™. Also leading the BWA team are MMO veterans Richard Vogel and Gordon Walton. Richard Vogel brings 15 years of experience to BioWare Austin, previously serving as VP of Product Development for Sony Online Entertainment's Austin studio, as well as launching Ultima Online™ as a senior producer at Origin. Gordon Walton recently served as VP, studio manager and executive producer at Sony Online Entertainment as well as VP and Executive Producer at Electronic Arts.

...

http://www.bioware.com/bioware_info/press_releases/2006_03_15_Austin/



since no one has looked at this and said anything im going to. Bioware is making a MMORPG and they got a guy whos involved with KOTOR, NWN, BG and BG2. Then u got another guy who is VP of Product Development of SOE and another guy who was VP, studio manager and executive producer at SOE and EA! To me, they got some good guys. But what gets my attention is that those 3 guys had something to do with SW i bet. Well, of course the guy who was involved in KOTOR was involved with SW, but wat about the other 2 guys. They worked for SOE, and lets see, SWG was made by LucasArts and SOE! So if those 2 had sumthing to do with SWG, then this may be the SW MMORPG we've been waiting for. You never know. But also on the Bio-Ware site, under games, under the in development part, there is the MMORPG game which we dont know much about except wat concord posted. But underneath it says Next-Gen Game. Could this be KOTOR3????? We're just gonna have to wait.

Gordon Walton and Richard Vogel had a lot to do with SWG in the begining. http://media2.yahoo.com/player/games/?k=/genre/roleplaying/starwarsgalaxiesaned/6023592


SWG pre-cu vet, elder Jedi, elder BH -Bloodfin

  hargrave

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9/01/06 1:19:07 PM#135

Well he still hasnt decided which of lies about server population is the true lie to him lol. First it was 275k then 200k then 150k kepty going up and down hopefully hell write down his lies or print them so he can keep it straight to him that is LOL

 I think all pirrg does is troll and try to piss people off by making the comments he does. He's European and they like to start arguments by flame bating then sit back and laugh about it. It's best just not to feed in to him. If you notice once he starts an argument in a thread he runs out of it and goes someplace else to start a flame war, but he rarely backs up his little snide remarks with any further discussions on his opinion.


 
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  Temploiter

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9/01/06 1:45:31 PM#136

Originally posted by hargrave

Well he still hasnt decided which of lies about server population is the true lie to him lol. First it was 275k then 200k then 150k kepty going up and down hopefully hell write down his lies or print them so he can keep it straight to him that is LOL

 I think all pirrg does is troll and try to piss people off by making the comments he does. He's European and they like to start arguments by flame bating then sit back and laugh about it. It's best just not to feed in to him. If you notice once he starts an argument in a thread he runs out of it and goes someplace else to start a flame war, but he rarely backs up his little snide remarks with any further discussions on his opinion.


Well that's just like a European then, start trouble then let the Americans finish it.  I kid I kid.

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  franksalbe

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9/01/06 2:08:16 PM#137

If... and only IF this is true. It makes perfect sense. I have posted about this b4. Making MMO's from an existing IP should be set in a time frame within the IP's storyline that doesnt affect any major events. Setting SWG in the middle of the movie mains story line. bad idea you can't grow the game with new story's created by your customers you dont feel apart of the story but more of a 3rd person viewing history. LOTR is kind of in the same boat. They should have either done the story based on the Simarilian time period where you had elf and dwarven weapons and armor found all over the place and you had more space for us to create our own little story with in the LOTR IP. Or after the LOTR series. But right in the middle of the most important storyline plot of the IP. Great another 3rd person view.

That silly nonsense that Turbine was speaking about " that your story are the side story that help the fellowship accomplish their goal" that i read around the boards or something silly like that. is just plain stupid. Instead of having to explain why we cant affect the game and create history. you should have taken the game way back or after this time line so we can do what ever we want!

Sheesh Age of Conan got it right! Conan is king we are not affecting the IP already well known storyline. We are free to do what ever we want!!

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  Fonzieguy

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9/01/06 2:14:04 PM#138
Not sure if anyone posted yet but they are using the hero engine

http://www.play.net/playdotnet/platform/

looks pretty good i think.
  norse25

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9/01/06 2:51:53 PM#139
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  Fonzieguy

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9/01/06 3:02:57 PM#140
For some reason I can't this this turning into a StarWars game since it would be competing with Galaxies and end up just confusing ppl; and  Galaxies could turn it around saying they were the first and they are official.
 I see it ending up being their own IP like the did with Jade Empire (Brilliant Game).  No matter what they do I can say with utmost certainty that it will be incredible because we've never seen less than that from Bioware.
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