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Originally posted by Agricola1

And you aren't?

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Originally posted by Obraik

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Originally posted by Agricola1

And you aren't?

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Heh, "I'll respec when I see it"

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You know, I bet that the smuggler system comming, is not created from the ground by the current devs.

Remember that last time the smuggler system was being made, it was completed codewise, but not with conversations (As in the text/story missions and NPC's tell you).

I would guess that they dug that system up, and well, did what they have done since the NGE: Recycled old material, just doing it worse than the original material.

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Originally posted by wolfmann

You know, I bet that the smuggler system comming, is not created from the ground by the current devs.

Remember that last time the smuggler system was being made, it was completed codewise, but not with conversations (As in the text/story missions and NPC's tell you).

I would guess that they dug that system up, and well, did what they have done since the NGE: Recycled old material, just doing it worse than the original material.

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Originally posted by Obraik

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Originally posted by wolfmann

You know, I bet that the smuggler system comming, is not created from the ground by the current devs.

Remember that last time the smuggler system was being made, it was completed codewise, but not with conversations (As in the text/story missions and NPC's tell you).

I would guess that they dug that system up, and well, did what they have done since the NGE: Recycled old material, just doing it worse than the original material.

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Does it really matter which devs made it?

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No, but you said they had alot of work done

But if you look at what they have done...They haven't really created anything, just grabbed old stuff, bugged it so it will fit the game, and given it other names...

Yay for our highly skilled and gifted Dev team! They RoXXoR! (the few of them left)

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Originally posted by korvass
This was my response to the whole POS. Not that my opinion counts, considering I don't play a BH or a Jedi, and my account wasn't activated post-NGE...

I'd love to be able to offer some 'constructive criticism', but I can only offer criticism and questions at the moment:

1. This system pretty much killed PvP in WoW for mature gamers.
2. Why do Smugglers get the shaft again?
3. Why is are Vets getting the shaft again?
4. Why is all my hard work to achieve Colonel being removed? (see 3)
5. Why is the group responsible for deciding to make this game WoW still employed?
6. Why is this game becoming more PvP oriented, while new players to the game must wait for new publishes in order to level and actually play the game's 'adventure' aspect?
7. Why are certain groups of people (campers, fight-clubbers, Jedi, etc) always being catered for above other groups of players (RPers, PvPers that don't run around ganking and yelling 'pwnd' every other word)?

Think that will about do me for now. Answers on the back of a postcard please...

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Originally posted by korvass
This was my response to the whole POS. Not that my opinion counts, considering I don't play a BH or a Jedi, and my account wasn't activated post-NGE...

I'd love to be able to offer some 'constructive criticism', but I can only offer criticism and questions at the moment:

1. This system pretty much killed PvP in WoW for mature gamers.
2. Why do Smugglers get the shaft again?
3. Why is are Vets getting the shaft again?
4. Why is all my hard work to achieve Colonel being removed? (see 3)
5. Why is the group responsible for deciding to make this game WoW still employed?
6. Why is this game becoming more PvP oriented, while new players to the game must wait for new publishes in order to level and actually play the game's 'adventure' aspect?
7. Why are certain groups of people (campers, fight-clubbers, Jedi, etc) always being catered for above other groups of players (RPers, PvPers that don't run around ganking and yelling 'pwnd' every other word)?

Think that will about do me for now. Answers on the back of a postcard please...

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bwhahahahaha  lmao

EDIT: okay okay, I got over my laughing fit after seeing this. Boy, the MMO world got a double whammy today with the release of World PvP in WoW and SWG following right behind.

This is like something from a movie, like a big huge joke. Really, Im still chuckling. SOE following right behind Blizzard? who COULDNT see this coming?

First of all, WoW IS the first MMO to have implemented and gone through with a faction ranking system. Sure, SWG may have come up witrh the idea, but they really didnt go through with it like WoW has (did they go through with anything besides Post-CU?). WoW took a chance and now they say that the honor system is terrible, and ironically SOE follows up right behind to pick up the scraps like a stray dog.

SWG is going nowhere, it is such a joke. SOE still kicks a dead horse. Im not surprisef that this game never truly died off with naieve fanbase supporting the game thinking that "The devs know that theyre doing", and "everything is going to be alright". 

I would never support this game. SOE has robbed the gaming community and pretty much almost everyone knows it. This game is *almost* trash on the likes of DnL, the way that SOE has completely scrapped the game system  is disgusting. They dont care for their customers, theyre dumb, theyre stuck up, and they have no respect for us. Thats my biggest issue with this game and company running it. They have no respect.

You know why blizz is doing so well? Cause they listen. Maybe not 100% of the time, maybe only half of the time, but they still listen. The players wanted an RP PVP server, alright, they gave it to them. Players didnt like the 3 month char xfer, alright, they gave them 6 months. They listened and they showed some signs of respect. SOE? They turn a blind eye. I remember when I played how nasty the CS was.

I truly hope that the rest of the community naievely thinking this game is going somewhere should seriously recgonsider. YOU ARE PAYING TO PLAY A GAME THAT IS IN BETA. And they call this game "finished" holy crap, give me a break. I would never ever support something like this, and no wonder most of us are sitting here scratching our heads going "this game is still alive?"

Yeah, they should hold their summit out in Iran. We're sure it will go off in a "bang".

- Steelarm

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Originally posted by musice
someone find me a game that hasnt resorted to WoW anything....plz

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Hhahhahahahhahahaha, its just to funny.

Not only do they feel the need to try and copy the WoW pvp system,BUt they copy the part of the PvP system that most Wow players hate.

It gets even funnier when you consider that Bliz itself felt the need to try and fix/improve/etc.. their PvP system, and now here we have $oe striving to embace it.

More i look at, more i play MMOs, the more i think there should be a universal DEV ban system.So that when the devs screw up a mmo,they are banned for life from participating in the making OR maintianing of another.

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Originally posted by tkobo

More i look at, more i play MMOs, the more i think there should be a universal DEV ban system.So that when the devs screw up a mmo,they are banned for life from participating in the making OR maintianing of another.

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Originally posted by KzinKiller

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Originally posted by tkobo

More i look at, more i play MMOs, the more i think there should be a universal DEV ban system.So that when the devs screw up a mmo,they are banned for life from participating in the making OR maintianing of another.

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Well, there sort of is.  I mean, if you were hiring for a new MMO now and a resume came across your desk that actually admitted working on SWG, wouldn't you drop it in the shredder?

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No.  If it were to happen right now, I'd conclude that the dev left/is leaving SOE for a reason; possibly over NGE.

Besides, I blame the management (Smedley to Helios) more than people like Hanse.

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Originally posted by KenshuAni

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No.  If it were to happen right now, I'd conclude that the dev left/is leaving SOE for a reason; possibly over NGE.

Besides, I blame the management (Smedley to Helios) more than people like Hanse.

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I would.

BUT i am not part of the mmo industry.The MMO industry is extremely insular, with the devs just jumping from one company too another.

I dont remember where i read this,or even if the wording is exact -"the movement of devs is inversely proportional to the health of the game"- but its always seemed accurate to me.

To whoever said/wrote this,sorry i forgot who you were.

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Originally posted by KzinKiller

Oh, without a doubt, I would just laugh if an exec or project manager, anyone with management responsibility, handed me a resume showing they'd worked on SWG .... QA would be the next least-likely to be hired ... coders, yeah, they'd get more of a chance with me .... unless it was Freeman.

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QA?  SWG has a QA team??!